2017 Recruiting Thread

by **BCSUPERFAN22** on Mon Feb 29, 2016 9:49 pm

New offer to Tayon Fleet-Davis. 6'0/211lb RB from Oxon Hill, MD. Other offers from Rutgers, UMD, WVU, NCSU and Iowa

by **claver2010** on Tue Mar 01, 2016 8:13 am

i still can't believe they didn't bring in a RB for '16 (by any means), especially after Gowins & Outlow leaving

by **31southst** on Tue Mar 01, 2016 9:51 am

claver2010 {l Wrote}:i still can't believe they didn't bring in a RB for '16 (by any means), especially after Gowins & Outlow leaving

I'm sure Daz won't be shy about using lack of depth as an excuse if/when one or two RBs are dinged up.

by **dtwalrus** on Tue Mar 01, 2016 10:34 am

31southst {l Wrote}:
claver2010 {l Wrote}:i still can't believe they didn't bring in a RB for '16 (by any means), especially after Gowins & Outlow leaving

I'm sure Daz won't be shy about using lack of depth as an excuse if/when one or two RBs are dinged up.

I'm still hoping there will be a solid and serviceable 5th year transfer out there that learns they're getting passed on the depth chart by a younger player after spring ball.

by **eagle9903** on Tue Mar 01, 2016 11:11 am

claver2010 {l Wrote}:i still can't believe they didn't bring in a RB for '16 (by any means), especially after Gowins & Outlow leaving

I don't think three running backs is really that light for this year. It may be more of an issue going forward.

by **TobaccoRoadEagle** on Tue Mar 01, 2016 11:14 am

eagle9903 {l Wrote}:
claver2010 {l Wrote}:i still can't believe they didn't bring in a RB for '16 (by any means), especially after Gowins & Outlow leaving

I don't think three running backs is really that light for this year. It may be more of an issue going forward.

you mean because we have ice towlie back there slinging the ball around to all our wide receivers?

by **claver2010** on Tue Mar 01, 2016 11:20 am

eagle9903 {l Wrote}:
claver2010 {l Wrote}:i still can't believe they didn't bring in a RB for '16 (by any means), especially after Gowins & Outlow leaving

I don't think three running backs is really that light for this year. It may be more of an issue going forward.

disagree, how many were hurt / out last year?

by **TobaccoRoadEagle** on Tue Mar 01, 2016 11:22 am

claver2010 {l Wrote}:
eagle9903 {l Wrote}:
claver2010 {l Wrote}:i still can't believe they didn't bring in a RB for '16 (by any means), especially after Gowins & Outlow leaving

I don't think three running backs is really that light for this year. It may be more of an issue going forward.

disagree, how many were hurt / out last year?

does that include the ones that were out for "coach's decision?"

by **eagle9903** on Tue Mar 01, 2016 11:39 am

claver2010 {l Wrote}:
eagle9903 {l Wrote}:
claver2010 {l Wrote}:i still can't believe they didn't bring in a RB for '16 (by any means), especially after Gowins & Outlow leaving

I don't think three running backs is really that light for this year. It may be more of an issue going forward.

disagree, how many were hurt / out last year?

OK, but if you look back at past rosters 3 is more normal than 5 and oftentimes when there were 4 and in many cases when there were 3, the last guy was somebody like J. Survival Ross who probably isn't really an every down option if the goal is to win games.

I do think it's a risk, but I don't think 3 theoretically healthy RBs is all that unusual and in fact the pre-transfer situation was more weird. It's not as bad as 2007 when Brooks got booted before the beginning of the year and there were 2.

by **BCSUPERFAN22** on Tue Mar 01, 2016 12:20 pm

eagle9903 {l Wrote}:
claver2010 {l Wrote}:
eagle9903 {l Wrote}:
claver2010 {l Wrote}:i still can't believe they didn't bring in a RB for '16 (by any means), especially after Gowins & Outlow leaving

I don't think three running backs is really that light for this year. It may be more of an issue going forward.

disagree, how many were hurt / out last year?

OK, but if you look back at past rosters 3 is more normal than 5 and oftentimes when there were 4 and in many cases when there were 3, the last guy was somebody like J. Survival Ross who probably isn't really an every down option if the goal is to win games.

I do think it's a risk, but I don't think 3 theoretically healthy RBs is all that unusual and in fact the pre-transfer situation was more weird. It's not as bad as 2007 when Brooks got booted before the beginning of the year and there were 2.

I think its important to remember that last year was kind of an anomaly. Addazio was fairly lucky his first 2 years with no injuries to major spots, last year it seemed that every important position got dinged. A depth chart of 3 (Hilliman, Willis, Rouse) is fine most time, especially considering that the chance of mass injuries like last year are probably low. In the end tho, just like everything else, its going to come down to the offensive lines ability to open holes and keep the RB unit from getting blown up.

I agree with Claver. Its ridiculous to skip recruiting that position (which was Addazios plan from the beginning it seemed) regardless, but makes even less sense with Addazio's run heavy scheme.

by **eagle9903** on Tue Mar 01, 2016 12:37 pm

BCSUPERFAN22 {l Wrote}:
eagle9903 {l Wrote}:
claver2010 {l Wrote}:
eagle9903 {l Wrote}:
claver2010 {l Wrote}:i still can't believe they didn't bring in a RB for '16 (by any means), especially after Gowins & Outlow leaving

I don't think three running backs is really that light for this year. It may be more of an issue going forward.

disagree, how many were hurt / out last year?

OK, but if you look back at past rosters 3 is more normal than 5 and oftentimes when there were 4 and in many cases when there were 3, the last guy was somebody like J. Survival Ross who probably isn't really an every down option if the goal is to win games.

I do think it's a risk, but I don't think 3 theoretically healthy RBs is all that unusual and in fact the pre-transfer situation was more weird. It's not as bad as 2007 when Brooks got booted before the beginning of the year and there were 2.

I think its important to remember that last year was kind of an anomaly. Addazio was fairly lucky his first 2 years with no injuries to major spots, last year it seemed that every important position got dinged. A depth chart of 3 (Hilliman, Willis, Rouse) is fine most time, especially considering that the chance of mass injuries like last year are probably low. In the end tho, just like everything else, its going to come down to the offensive lines ability to open holes and keep the RB unit from getting blown up.

I agree with Claver. Its ridiculous to skip recruiting that position (which was Addazios plan from the beginning it seemed) regardless, but makes even less sense with Addazio's run heavy scheme.

I generally agree that skipping a position in a class is dumb, but I'm not sure that adding a 6th running back to the 2016 roster (Willis,Rouse,Hilliman,Outlow,Gowins,2016 guy) is any less dumb, which is what would have occurred had they added a class of 2016 RB and the transfers had not happened. I think at that point it would have had to have been an obvious difference maker, which was the situation when they added Hilliman. Obviously, there were carry distribution issues last season (multiplied by the losing), which may or may not have been avoidable, but were not avoided in any event.

by **twballgame9** on Tue Mar 01, 2016 1:14 pm

If you run between the tackles as much Addazio, you need more than 3 RBs. When the QBs could throw, you might be able to survive with 3.

by **eagle9903** on Tue Mar 01, 2016 1:25 pm

twballgame9 {l Wrote}:If you run between the tackles as much Addazio, you need more than 3 RBs. When the QBs could throw, you might be able to survive with 3.

I think since they survived with 3 and Addazio in 2013, it's less cut and dry than that.

by **twballgame9** on Tue Mar 01, 2016 1:52 pm

eagle9903 {l Wrote}:
twballgame9 {l Wrote}:If you run between the tackles as much Addazio, you need more than 3 RBs. When the QBs could throw, you might be able to survive with 3.

I think since they survived with 3 and Addazio in 2013, it's less cut and dry than that.

You are correct, the exception to the rule is when you have a Heisman contending back that can survive 355 carries in 13 games.

by **31southst** on Tue Mar 01, 2016 2:37 pm

eagle9903 {l Wrote}:
twballgame9 {l Wrote}:If you run between the tackles as much Addazio, you need more than 3 RBs. When the QBs could throw, you might be able to survive with 3.

I think since they survived with 3 and Addazio in 2013, it's less cut and dry than that.

Although I haven't read anything negative about his recovery, it is worth noting that 1 of the 3 is coming off a season ending injury. That said, I think we might as well start calling Wilson a RB now.

by **BCSUPERFAN22** on Tue Mar 01, 2016 8:32 pm

New offer to Collin Smith. ATH/Safety from Ligonier Valley HS in PA. 6'0/195lb with offers from Michigan, West Virginia and Louisville

by **eepstein0** on Tue Mar 01, 2016 9:53 pm

twballgame9 {l Wrote}:
eagle9903 {l Wrote}:
twballgame9 {l Wrote}:If you run between the tackles as much Addazio, you need more than 3 RBs. When the QBs could throw, you might be able to survive with 3.

I think since they survived with 3 and Addazio in 2013, it's less cut and dry than that.

You are correct, the exception to the rule is when you have a Heisman contending back that can survive 355 carries in 13 games.

It's this. I do not want to see another walk on starting this year. We had enough fun with that at QB

by **ckoub01** on Wed Mar 02, 2016 9:36 am

angrychicken {l Wrote}:
ckoub01 {l Wrote}:That said, Lakeland (rural, poor) and Winter Park (top 5 wealthiest areas in FL) are completely different universes, so I'd be shocked if Jordan was especially close to his "second cousins."

The first part is untrue. The second part is a strange assumption to make.

Clearly you haven't been to either location, as it's laughable to think that Lakeland is 1) a city or 2) even moderately wealthy by any measure. Just take a look at Lakeland's booming, urban industries per Wikipedia - "Large industries in the Lakeland area are citrus, cattle, and phosphate mining." Real urban, white collar work there!

Compare Lakeland to this - http://www.bestplaces.net/city/florida/winter_park

Guessing that the rich and poor dont don't intermingle is purely a stereotype, so I guess you got me on that.

by **angrychicken** on Wed Mar 02, 2016 9:58 am

ckoub01 {l Wrote}:
angrychicken {l Wrote}:
ckoub01 {l Wrote}:That said, Lakeland (rural, poor) and Winter Park (top 5 wealthiest areas in FL) are completely different universes, so I'd be shocked if Jordan was especially close to his "second cousins."

The first part is untrue. The second part is a strange assumption to make.

Clearly you haven't been to either location, as it's laughable to think that Lakeland is 1) a city or 2) even moderately wealthy by any measure. Just take a look at Lakeland's booming, urban industries per Wikipedia - "Large industries in the Lakeland area are citrus, cattle, and phosphate mining." Real urban, white collar work there!

Compare Lakeland to this - http://www.bestplaces.net/city/florida/winter_park

Guessing that the rich and poor dont don't intermingle is purely a stereotype, so I guess you got me on that.

You cite Wikipedia and some other random website to defend your position. Cool. You're still wrong.

by **twballgame9** on Wed Mar 02, 2016 10:30 am

Plus, saying Lakeland's economy is based on cattle and citrus is like saying Newton's economy is based on its two biggest employers, Newton Wellesley Hospital and BC.

by **TobaccoRoadEagle** on Wed Mar 02, 2016 11:09 am

twballgame9 {l Wrote}:Plus, saying Lakeland's economy is based on cattle and citrus is like saying Newton's economy is based on its two biggest employers, Newton Wellesley Hospital and BC.

and not at all dance lessons

by **angrychicken** on Wed Mar 02, 2016 11:32 am

twballgame9 {l Wrote}:Plus, saying Lakeland's economy is based on cattle and citrus is like saying Newton's economy is based on its two biggest employers, Newton Wellesley Hospital and BC.

Plus plus, the headquarters of the largest grocery store chain in Florida (possibly the largest in the southeastern U.S.) is located in Lakeland. They also have a FedEx distribution center that handles most of the packages that come into and out of the state.

What does this have to do with anything? Not much, other than to point out that the original post about Lakeland, Winter Park, and the family dynamics of a family that we know nothing about was, from top to bottom, full of crap.

by **TobaccoRoadEagle** on Wed Mar 02, 2016 11:48 am

angrychicken {l Wrote}:...largest grocery store chain in Florida (possibly the largest in the southeastern U.S.) ...

pubix?

by **DavidGordonsFoot** on Wed Mar 02, 2016 12:17 pm

angrychicken {l Wrote}:
twballgame9 {l Wrote}:Plus, saying Lakeland's economy is based on cattle and citrus is like saying Newton's economy is based on its two biggest employers, Newton Wellesley Hospital and BC.

Plus plus, the headquarters of the largest grocery store chain in Florida (possibly the largest in the southeastern U.S.) is located in Lakeland. They also have a FedEx distribution center that handles most of the packages that come into and out of the state.

What does this have to do with anything? Not much, other than to point out that the original post about Lakeland, Winter Park, and the family dynamics of a family that we know nothing about was, from top to bottom, full of crap.

Wasn't Lakeland in the news a few years back because the cops and firemen were passing a female civilian employee around and doing her during work hours practically everywhere except the chief of police's office?

by **TobaccoRoadEagle** on Wed Mar 02, 2016 12:21 pm

DavidGordonsFoot {l Wrote}:Wasn't Lakeland in the news a few years back because the cops and firemen were passing a female civilian employee around and doing her during work hours practically everywhere except the chief of police's office?

no

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/nationa ... -1.1383107

by **ckoub01** on Wed Mar 02, 2016 3:38 pm

angrychicken {l Wrote}:
ckoub01 {l Wrote}:
angrychicken {l Wrote}:
ckoub01 {l Wrote}:That said, Lakeland (rural, poor) and Winter Park (top 5 wealthiest areas in FL) are completely different universes, so I'd be shocked if Jordan was especially close to his "second cousins."

The first part is untrue. The second part is a strange assumption to make.

Clearly you haven't been to either location, as it's laughable to think that Lakeland is 1) a city or 2) even moderately wealthy by any measure. Just take a look at Lakeland's booming, urban industries per Wikipedia - "Large industries in the Lakeland area are citrus, cattle, and phosphate mining." Real urban, white collar work there!

Compare Lakeland to this - http://www.bestplaces.net/city/florida/winter_park

Guessing that the rich and poor dont don't intermingle is purely a stereotype, so I guess you got me on that.

You cite Wikipedia and some other random website to defend your position. Cool. You're still wrong.

Well if AngryChicken says its wrong, then I'll have to take his/her/its words for it.

by **TobaccoRoadEagle** on Wed Mar 02, 2016 3:45 pm

ckoub01 {l Wrote}:
angrychicken {l Wrote}:
ckoub01 {l Wrote}:
angrychicken {l Wrote}:
ckoub01 {l Wrote}:That said, Lakeland (rural, poor) and Winter Park (top 5 wealthiest areas in FL) are completely different universes, so I'd be shocked if Jordan was especially close to his "second cousins."

The first part is untrue. The second part is a strange assumption to make.

Clearly you haven't been to either location, as it's laughable to think that Lakeland is 1) a city or 2) even moderately wealthy by any measure. Just take a look at Lakeland's booming, urban industries per Wikipedia - "Large industries in the Lakeland area are citrus, cattle, and phosphate mining." Real urban, white collar work there!

Compare Lakeland to this - http://www.bestplaces.net/city/florida/winter_park

Guessing that the rich and poor dont don't intermingle is purely a stereotype, so I guess you got me on that.

You cite Wikipedia and some other random website to defend your position. Cool. You're still wrong.

Well if AngryChicken says its wrong, then I'll have to take his/her/its words for it.

based on where he posts from (geographically) and where you post from (geographically) i think he may know a thing or two more about it.

but maybe you're a big disney guy that stays in winter park :shrug

by **ckoub01** on Wed Mar 02, 2016 3:47 pm

TobaccoRoadEagle {l Wrote}:
ckoub01 {l Wrote}:
angrychicken {l Wrote}:
ckoub01 {l Wrote}:
angrychicken {l Wrote}:
ckoub01 {l Wrote}:That said, Lakeland (rural, poor) and Winter Park (top 5 wealthiest areas in FL) are completely different universes, so I'd be shocked if Jordan was especially close to his "second cousins."

The first part is untrue. The second part is a strange assumption to make.

Clearly you haven't been to either location, as it's laughable to think that Lakeland is 1) a city or 2) even moderately wealthy by any measure. Just take a look at Lakeland's booming, urban industries per Wikipedia - "Large industries in the Lakeland area are citrus, cattle, and phosphate mining." Real urban, white collar work there!

Compare Lakeland to this - http://www.bestplaces.net/city/florida/winter_park

Guessing that the rich and poor dont don't intermingle is purely a stereotype, so I guess you got me on that.

You cite Wikipedia and some other random website to defend your position. Cool. You're still wrong.

Well if AngryChicken says its wrong, then I'll have to take his/her/its words for it.

based on where he posts from (geographically) and where you post from (geographically) i think he may know a thing or two more about it.

but maybe you're a big disney guy that stays in winter park

I'd say living there 15 years in Tampa + Orlando might help . . . . .

by **twballgame9** on Wed Mar 02, 2016 4:11 pm

ckoub01 {l Wrote}:
TobaccoRoadEagle {l Wrote}:
ckoub01 {l Wrote}:
angrychicken {l Wrote}:
ckoub01 {l Wrote}:
angrychicken {l Wrote}:
ckoub01 {l Wrote}:That said, Lakeland (rural, poor) and Winter Park (top 5 wealthiest areas in FL) are completely different universes, so I'd be shocked if Jordan was especially close to his "second cousins."

The first part is untrue. The second part is a strange assumption to make.

Clearly you haven't been to either location, as it's laughable to think that Lakeland is 1) a city or 2) even moderately wealthy by any measure. Just take a look at Lakeland's booming, urban industries per Wikipedia - "Large industries in the Lakeland area are citrus, cattle, and phosphate mining." Real urban, white collar work there!

Compare Lakeland to this - http://www.bestplaces.net/city/florida/winter_park

Guessing that the rich and poor dont don't intermingle is purely a stereotype, so I guess you got me on that.

You cite Wikipedia and some other random website to defend your position. Cool. You're still wrong.

Well if AngryChicken says its wrong, then I'll have to take his/her/its words for it.

based on where he posts from (geographically) and where you post from (geographically) i think he may know a thing or two more about it.

but maybe you're a big disney guy that stays in winter park

I'd say living there 15 years in Tampa + Orlando might help . . . . .

Sorry to hear that. We'll pray for your soul

by **TobaccoRoadEagle** on Wed Mar 02, 2016 4:36 pm

ckoub01 {l Wrote}:
TobaccoRoadEagle {l Wrote}:
ckoub01 {l Wrote}:
angrychicken {l Wrote}:
ckoub01 {l Wrote}:
angrychicken {l Wrote}:
ckoub01 {l Wrote}:That said, Lakeland (rural, poor) and Winter Park (top 5 wealthiest areas in FL) are completely different universes, so I'd be shocked if Jordan was especially close to his "second cousins."

The first part is untrue. The second part is a strange assumption to make.

Clearly you haven't been to either location, as it's laughable to think that Lakeland is 1) a city or 2) even moderately wealthy by any measure. Just take a look at Lakeland's booming, urban industries per Wikipedia - "Large industries in the Lakeland area are citrus, cattle, and phosphate mining." Real urban, white collar work there!

Compare Lakeland to this - http://www.bestplaces.net/city/florida/winter_park

Guessing that the rich and poor dont don't intermingle is purely a stereotype, so I guess you got me on that.

You cite Wikipedia and some other random website to defend your position. Cool. You're still wrong.

Well if AngryChicken says its wrong, then I'll have to take his/her/its words for it.

based on where he posts from (geographically) and where you post from (geographically) i think he may know a thing or two more about it.

but maybe you're a big disney guy that stays in winter park

I'd say living there 15 years in Tampa + Orlando might help . . . . .

are you friendly with all your other cousins that live in the area?

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