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Re: 24 acre purchase

Postby rktbrkr on Sun Sep 06, 2015 6:19 am

ND is spending 400M to upgrade their stadium, mercifully, no tacky naming rights involved although they're squeezing Underarmor for 100M. Lots of modern niceties being added while preserving The Temple.

http://crossroads.nd.edu/
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Re: 24 acre purchase

Postby eagletx on Sun Sep 06, 2015 8:58 am

I like how people can discuss (theoretically) new stadiums, because you can completely ignore the economic realities. It's a wonderful, and ridiculous pipedream.
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Re: 24 acre purchase

Postby twballgame9 on Sun Sep 06, 2015 9:11 am

MilitantEagle wrote:
twballgame9 wrote:BC didn't have problems selling out 7 years ago.


I think a more accurate statement is that BC didn't have problems selling out 20 years ago. Seven years ago, they had problems, but had a sellout or two with the ACC Championship game runs. But even over the last seven years, a lot has changed with the BC fan base. Each year that goes by, the local whalepants alumni die off or stop going to games and are replaced by indifferent millenials who return home to California never to attend another BC game.


I don't think your premise is wrong, I just think you are overstating it. BC sold out most big games in the aughts.
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Re: 24 acre purchase

Postby hansen on Sun Sep 06, 2015 5:52 pm

rktbrkr wrote:ND is spending 400M to upgrade their stadium, mercifully, no tacky naming rights involved although they're squeezing Underarmor for 100M. Lots of modern niceties being added while preserving The Temple.

http://crossroads.nd.edu/


Notre Dame's stadium is overrated as is anything else related to that program.
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Re: 24 acre purchase

Postby BostonCollege1 on Sun Sep 06, 2015 6:41 pm

hansen wrote:
rktbrkr wrote:ND is spending 400M to upgrade their stadium, mercifully, no tacky naming rights involved although they're squeezing Underarmor for 100M. Lots of modern niceties being added while preserving The Temple.

http://crossroads.nd.edu/


Notre Dame's stadium is overrated as is anything else related to that program.


As they are not replacing the splinter causing wooden bleachers with the 10" wide seats, the high-school level concession stands and the 1920's era stinky bathrooms, yes. I'd much rather sit in Alumni.

In terms of maximizing space on campus, raising funds, increasing revenue through seating options for big donors/corporations and keeping their athletic facilities ad-free (avoiding the minor-league baseball park feel that Conte/Kelley now has) - I wish BC could do half as good a job.
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Re: 24 acre purchase

Postby Eaglekeeper on Wed Sep 09, 2015 1:22 am

ND has 80,000 plus every week, awesome band and an old crappy stadium that they wasted millions on instead of building a new stadium, but they get 80,000 every week. BC needs luxury amenities in the stadium to attract more fans.
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Re: 24 acre purchase

Postby claver2010 on Wed Sep 09, 2015 7:11 am

somewhat on topic, bates had a little news bulletin yesterday:

http://www.bceagles.com/genrel/090815aab.html

From the Desk of the AD: Game Day
Appreciation: Things I Never Take For Granted


Sept. 8, 2015
It takes opening day to remind us what a special place Boston College is to experience a football game. While time distances true appreciation, arriving at Alumni Stadium this weekend prompted me to reminisce about prior games and reflect on the meaningfulness of a BC home game.

Driving to campus early Saturday morning, the tower of Gasson Hall stood as a beacon calling us back to campus. As I pulled up to Alumni Stadium, I was greeted by a smiling parking attendant who welcomed me to The Heights. While driving to the parking lot, I saw the television truck already parked from the night before alive with activity as the crew prepared for the broadcast. As I exited my car I was immediately hit by the smell of popcorn and other concessions.

As the morning unfolded, the sound checks began and the video board was alive with colors and last-minute fine-tuning. Soon, the Screaming Eagles Marching Band rehearsed its pregame and halftime performance on the field; is it possible to hear the drums and not get excited?

I walked to the new tailgating area on Brighton Campus and was greeted by people having an incredible time grilling food, toasting the Eagles, tossing footballs, playing cornhole and having a great time with friends and family. Walking down Campenella Way I saw a gauntlet of tents, tables, grills and enthusiasm – everybody was smiling!

Soon there was an electricity among the tailgaters as the Gasson bells were ringing and people walked to THE stairs to watch the football team march down in their BC sport coats in the traditional Eagle Walk.

The hospitality tent at Gate E was packed with fans enjoying food and beverage as hundreds strolled around enjoying the pregame festivities. Shea Field was its usual aquarium of energy and the new reserved parking system ensured fans were located with friends and family for every game. Walking back past the Edmonds and Walsh tailgaters reminded me of the long history many of these fans and alums have together – years of memories around BC games. The sounds of the Mods were reverberating throughout lower campus as seniors were up early and having a great morning.

Baldwin and the cheerleaders were engaging our fans as they arrived at Conte to prepare for their performance. The SuperFan Zone at the south end had the music cranking with plenty of food for the students.

It didn’t matter who we were playing – BC was on the field! The band was playing, the smell of food was swirling, the SuperFans were strong and pageantry was everywhere. You can never sing “For Boston” enough; it never gets old and the shared experience with thousands of Eagles is simultaneously sentimental and energizing. Seeing the team sing the alma mater with their classmates as an exclamation point to my appreciation for BC gameday and the traditions and memories each Saturday brings.

And oh, by the way, how fun to see the 2015 Eagles football team – I can’t wait until Saturday!


all rainbows & unicorns in the world of bates huh

nothing about the lowest season opening attendance in 20 years?
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Re: 24 acre purchase

Postby eagle9903 on Wed Sep 09, 2015 7:14 am

claver2010 wrote:somewhat on topic, bates had a little news bulletin yesterday:

http://www.bceagles.com/genrel/090815aab.html

From the Desk of the AD: Game Day
Appreciation: Things I Never Take For Granted


Sept. 8, 2015
It takes opening day to remind us what a special place Boston College is to experience a football game. While time distances true appreciation, arriving at Alumni Stadium this weekend prompted me to reminisce about prior games and reflect on the meaningfulness of a BC home game.

Driving to campus early Saturday morning, the tower of Gasson Hall stood as a beacon calling us back to campus. As I pulled up to Alumni Stadium, I was greeted by a smiling parking attendant who welcomed me to The Heights. While driving to the parking lot, I saw the television truck already parked from the night before alive with activity as the crew prepared for the broadcast. As I exited my car I was immediately hit by the smell of popcorn and other concessions.

As the morning unfolded, the sound checks began and the video board was alive with colors and last-minute fine-tuning. Soon, the Screaming Eagles Marching Band rehearsed its pregame and halftime performance on the field; is it possible to hear the drums and not get excited?

I walked to the new tailgating area on Brighton Campus and was greeted by people having an incredible time grilling food, toasting the Eagles, tossing footballs, playing cornhole and having a great time with friends and family. Walking down Campenella Way I saw a gauntlet of tents, tables, grills and enthusiasm – everybody was smiling!

Soon there was an electricity among the tailgaters as the Gasson bells were ringing and people walked to THE stairs to watch the football team march down in their BC sport coats in the traditional Eagle Walk.

The hospitality tent at Gate E was packed with fans enjoying food and beverage as hundreds strolled around enjoying the pregame festivities. Shea Field was its usual aquarium of energy and the new reserved parking system ensured fans were located with friends and family for every game. Walking back past the Edmonds and Walsh tailgaters reminded me of the long history many of these fans and alums have together – years of memories around BC games. The sounds of the Mods were reverberating throughout lower campus as seniors were up early and having a great morning.

Baldwin and the cheerleaders were engaging our fans as they arrived at Conte to prepare for their performance. The SuperFan Zone at the south end had the music cranking with plenty of food for the students.

It didn’t matter who we were playing – BC was on the field! The band was playing, the smell of food was swirling, the SuperFans were strong and pageantry was everywhere. You can never sing “For Boston” enough; it never gets old and the shared experience with thousands of Eagles is simultaneously sentimental and energizing. Seeing the team sing the alma mater with their classmates as an exclamation point to my appreciation for BC gameday and the traditions and memories each Saturday brings.

And oh, by the way, how fun to see the 2015 Eagles football team – I can’t wait until Saturday!


all rainbows & unicorns in the world of bates huh

nothing about the lowest season opening attendance in 20 years?


Ha, why on earth would you advertise how shitty attendance was in what is essentially an advertisement?
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Re: 24 acre purchase

Postby Shoreagle on Wed Sep 09, 2015 7:17 am

"as the crew prepared for the broadcast." Broadcast? Does watching a BC game on my iPad with a high school level announcing team now qualify as a broadcast?
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Re: 24 acre purchase

Postby claver2010 on Wed Sep 09, 2015 7:26 am

eagle9903 wrote:Ha, why on earth would you advertise how shitty attendance was in what is essentially an advertisement?


because probably the only people reading that are the lunatic fringe who post on message boards & went to the game :shrug
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Re: 24 acre purchase

Postby eagle9903 on Wed Sep 09, 2015 7:36 am

claver2010 wrote:
eagle9903 wrote:Ha, why on earth would you advertise how shitty attendance was in what is essentially an advertisement?


because probably the only people reading that are the lunatic fringe who post on message boards & went to the game :shrug


Yes, but they have to pretend that's not the case.
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Re: 24 acre purchase

Postby TobaccoRoadEagle on Wed Sep 09, 2015 7:36 am

meh - good for him. he's essentially a salesman and he penned a salesman's article. like with all salesmen it lacks in substance and is full of technical holes, but it still conveyed the message that the dozen or so people that attended the game had fun eating.

it will be interesting to see what howard brings. it's not labor day so you won't have the excuses about being in sarasota but it's also not opening day and you don't have the excitement that 8 months of waiting brings. the true fan knows they will be treated to another game of boring football and with a potential for rain, the fair weather fan will likely be just that.

but whatever, the sad thing will be when the noles take the field and the upper decks are still only scattered with fans. i mean, sure, if we had corners those would be filled but the rest of the upper deck fans will be dressed as aluminum bleachers.

quit yer bitching, i know i won't be there either. i have an excuse... i don't even like sports
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Re: 24 acre purchase

Postby HJS on Wed Sep 09, 2015 8:39 am

claver2010 wrote:somewhat on topic, bates had a little news bulletin yesterday:

http://www.bceagles.com/genrel/090815aab.html

From the Desk of the AD: Game Day
Appreciation: Things I Never Take For Granted

Sept. 8, 2015
As I exited my car I was immediately hit by the smell of popcorn and other concessions.



all rainbows & unicorns in the world of bates huh

What time did he show up on campus such that they were already popping popcorn???
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Re: 24 acre purchase

Postby commavegarage on Wed Sep 09, 2015 8:59 am

HJS wrote:
claver2010 wrote:somewhat on topic, bates had a little news bulletin yesterday:

http://www.bceagles.com/genrel/090815aab.html

From the Desk of the AD: Game Day
Appreciation: Things I Never Take For Granted

Sept. 8, 2015
As I exited my car I was immediately hit by the smell of popcorn and other concessions.



all rainbows & unicorns in the world of bates huh

What time did he show up on campus such that they were already popping popcorn???


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Re: 24 acre purchase

Postby twballgame9 on Wed Sep 09, 2015 9:02 am

I love the smell of stale sesame covered pretzels in the morning before a noon ESPN3 start.
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Re: 24 acre purchase

Postby DavidGordonsFoot on Wed Sep 09, 2015 9:13 am

HJS wrote:
claver2010 wrote:somewhat on topic, bates had a little news bulletin yesterday:

http://www.bceagles.com/genrel/090815aab.html

From the Desk of the AD: Game Day
Appreciation: Things I Never Take For Granted

Sept. 8, 2015
As I exited my car I was immediately hit by the smell of popcorn and other concessions.



all rainbows & unicorns in the world of bates huh

What time did he show up on campus such that they were already popping popcorn???

Yeah, the logistical holes in that letter are bothering me more than they should. Why didn't he check out the Edmonds, Walsh and mod tailgating on his way to/from Brighton Campus instead of going back over there after visiting Shea Field?
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Re: 24 acre purchase

Postby DavidGordonsFoot on Wed Sep 09, 2015 9:20 am

TobaccoRoadEagle wrote:it's not labor day so you won't have the excuses about being in sarasota

This was a good part of your post and you should feel good about it.
"I have history, and I understand history, so I know where we’ve been and where we are, and where we are trying to go, okay? But it’s been somewhere between 6.5 and 6.6 wins a year since 1980, which is 38 years. We’re at 7..."
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Re: 24 acre purchase

Postby twballgame9 on Wed Sep 09, 2015 9:33 am

DavidGordonsFoot wrote:
TobaccoRoadEagle wrote:it's not labor day so you won't have the excuses about being in sarasota

This was a good part of your post and you should feel good about it.


If it was 50% full for Maine, I am showing up for Howard with three people, so that is at least 54% right there.
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Re: 24 acre purchase

Postby Endless Mike on Wed Sep 09, 2015 10:12 am

DavidGordonsFoot wrote:
HJS wrote:
claver2010 wrote:somewhat on topic, bates had a little news bulletin yesterday:

http://www.bceagles.com/genrel/090815aab.html

From the Desk of the AD: Game Day
Appreciation: Things I Never Take For Granted

Sept. 8, 2015
As I exited my car I was immediately hit by the smell of popcorn and other concessions.



all rainbows & unicorns in the world of bates huh

What time did he show up on campus such that they were already popping popcorn???

Yeah, the logistical holes in that letter are bothering me more than they should. Why didn't he check out the Edmonds, Walsh and mod tailgating on his way to/from Brighton Campus instead of going back over there after visiting Shea Field?


He stopped by what used to be More Hall and saw a guy in a Gucci hat playing "bags" with himself, so naturally he had to get away from that whole scene. :dildodog
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Re: 24 acre purchase

Postby hansen on Wed Sep 09, 2015 5:40 pm

What was the announced Attendance?
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Re: 24 acre purchase

Postby MilitantEagle on Wed Sep 09, 2015 8:18 pm

hansen wrote:What was the announced Attendance?


According to BCI: 29,626

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Re: 24 acre purchase

Postby DomingoOrtiz on Thu Sep 19, 2019 7:15 pm

Newton's mayor wants to acquire 17 acres of the property through eminent domain.
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Re: 24 acre purchase

Postby HJS on Thu Sep 19, 2019 7:52 pm

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Re: 24 acre purchase

Postby Eaglekeeper on Thu Sep 19, 2019 10:05 pm

Fucking socialist!
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Re: 24 acre purchase

Postby twballgame9 on Thu Sep 19, 2019 11:00 pm

same 3 dumbasses have all the posts
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Re: 24 acre purchase

Postby hansen on Fri Sep 20, 2019 12:38 pm

What are the schools chances of winning in court?

Don’t governments have a lot of latitude when using eminent domain? Didn’t that new London case a few years back for that? Not a lawyer, if only I knew where to find one.

If BC will lose:

Hire the largest demolition company you can find.
Have them raze the area before the city can get an injunction.
No more land to preserve.
and if chewy can’t make the juice... Case desmithed.
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Re: 24 acre purchase

Postby HJS on Fri Sep 20, 2019 1:20 pm

hansen wrote:What are the schools chances of winning in court?

Don’t governments have a lot of latitude when using eminent domain? Didn’t that new London case a few years back for that? Not a lawyer, if only I knew where to find one.

If BC will lose:

Hire the largest demolition company you can find.
Have them raze the area before the city can get an injunction.
No more land to preserve.
and if chewy can’t make the juice... Case desmithed.

Government has large leeway in enacting eminent domain. However, they have no such leeway in compensation. So, it would be likely that BC would be reimbursed handsomely (such that their $20mm investment would provide a nice return).
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Re: 24 acre purchase

Postby blueline on Fri Sep 20, 2019 3:30 pm

Eaglekeeper wrote:With 24 acres, supply and demand will create much lower pricing, especially if the site is just used for parking. Interest in BC football is at an all time low, eventually BC will have to give in to market forces.

Regarding building a new stadium, BC will do it if they can raise a significant portion of the funds. A partnership with the Revolution might cut the cost by 50%. The club areas will be used throughout the year and a 2nd location for a BC Club might work as well. There are a lot of revenue producing opportunities with a new stadium. Baylor is a very good example. Alumni Stadium is an outdated model and pouring millions into renovations is not going to be worth it given this new opportunity. Also, the academic buildings, especially science (research) will always need more space on campus. The stadium takes up a lot of space on a small campus.


What is the sense if BC keeps fielding a poor team with awful coaches ?

No one will come and same empty seats we have now.

Leahy and the trustees don't care about sports. The AD is powerless to do anything, just lip service and spin.

My friends and I keep going year after year until we can't go anymore either we die of old age or whatever. I'm in my 60s now and I have been going to BC football since I was a kid.
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Re: 24 acre purchase

Postby eagle33 on Tue Oct 01, 2019 12:48 pm

So apparently, prior to BC getting involved, the congregation reached out to the city of newton to purchase the 24 acres and they passed. So BC makes the purchase and now the mayor, who happens to live adjacent to the property, want's to take it by eminent domain. BC offered to do a land swap and she turned that down as well. Let the court battle begin.

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Re: 24 acre purchase

Postby Dick Rosenthal on Tue Oct 01, 2019 9:24 pm

Whenever I read an article about Newton, I think we need to either nuke it from outer space with neutron bombs or force the residents out of their homes on some sort of horrible Trail of Tears type that kills 90% of them before they reach a reservation outside of Enid, Oklahoma.
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