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Did they really start at 5:00am or is the BC Twitter clock wrong too?
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Looks like they started just after 8

some updates from BC football news, anyone have any other updates?

@BCFootballNews 4h4 hours ago
"Halftime" of today's scrimmage. Alston (39 yd) & Hillman (80 yd) rushed for TDs and Pankey caught a 49-yd TD from classmate Smith

@BCFootballNews 4h4 hours ago
On the defensive side of the ball, McClary and Karafa have interceptions and ...The D has tallied 6 tackles for loss: Wujciak (2), Kelly, Milano, Ray and M. Moore and Johnson combined

@BCFootballNews 2h2 hours ago
The second scrimmage of the preseason is in the books. QB Darius Wade rushed for a 18-yard rushing TD in the second half for the only score.

@BCFootballNews 2h2 hours ago
The defense recorded 6 more tackles for loss, by Landry, Ray Smith (2), Ray (sack), Johnson (sack), Gutapfel & Schwab (combined sack)

@BCFootballNews 2h2 hours ago
Kavalec and Allen recovered fumbles and Kamrin Moore intercepted a pass b yt Wade.

@BCFootballNews 2h2 hours ago
Elijah Robinson also caught a 23-yard pass as he is making the transition from QB to WR.

BC write up at http://www.bceagles.com/sports/m-footbl/spec-rel/082215aaf.html

Free EA summary at https://bostoncollege.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=1794737

If the season started on Saturday, Addazio said Howell would be the Eagles' primary placekicker and punter. Howell didn't miss any extra points and made his lone field goal attempt Saturday. He also showed off his leg during a series of 11-on-11 kicking drills midway through the scrimmage, making kicks from 29 yards, 35 yards, and 52 yards while missing a 41-yarder. Howell botched his first punt - a 24-yarder on a low snap - and sophomore kicker Mike Knoll had a 31-yard punt in his lone attempt and also made and missed a 47-yard field goal during the drills. Freshman kicker Colton Lichtenberg made 36- and 47-yard field goals.

I have a feeling this is going to be a complete clusterfuck again

Going simply on these articles, it seems like we have a major QB problem already along with some bad OLine play.

It's fortunate for BC they get two additional scrimmages against Maine and Howard.

For those of you predicting 9 wins or whatever other silliness, we're going to need to score more than 10 points per game or whatever.

claver2010 {l Wrote}:

If the season started on Saturday, Addazio said Howell would be the Eagles' primary placekicker and punter. Howell didn't miss any extra points and made his lone field goal attempt Saturday. He also showed off his leg during a series of 11-on-11 kicking drills midway through the scrimmage, making kicks from 29 yards, 35 yards, and 52 yards while missing a 41-yarder. Howell botched his first punt - a 24-yarder on a low snap - and sophomore kicker Mike Knoll had a 31-yard punt in his lone attempt and also made and missed a 47-yard field goal during the drills. Freshman kicker Colton Lichtenberg made 36- and 47-yard field goals.

I have a feeling this is going to be a complete clusterfuck again

claver2010 {l Wrote}:

If the season started on Saturday, Addazio said Howell would be the Eagles' primary placekicker and punter. Howell didn't miss any extra points and made his lone field goal attempt Saturday. He also showed off his leg during a series of 11-on-11 kicking drills midway through the scrimmage, making kicks from 29 yards, 35 yards, and 52 yards while missing a 41-yarder. Howell botched his first punt - a 24-yarder on a low snap - and sophomore kicker Mike Knoll had a 31-yard punt in his lone attempt and also made and missed a 47-yard field goal during the drills. Freshman kicker Colton Lichtenberg made 36- and 47-yard field goals.

I have a feeling this is going to be a complete clusterfuck again

Yep. Howell is wildly inaccurate. Knoll should be good, but I think mentally he's shot.

Might be better off letting the freshman kick

Jeff Smith is the real deal. He has a pretty good arm and phenomal speed. Think Murphy with more speed and a better arm, I've never seen a BC QB with his tools.

eepstein0 {l Wrote}:Going simply on these articles, it seems like we have a major QB problem already along with some bad OLine play.

It's fortunate for BC they get two additional scrimmages against Maine and Howard.

For those of you predicting 9 wins or whatever other silliness, we're going to need to score more than 10 points per game or whatever.

Try to remember that the offense is going up against quite possibly the ACC's best defense in these scrimmages. Only VT and Clemson will have comparable defenses. And it's unlikely that any ACC team will have the run-stopping DLine BC does. We finished 2nd against the run in the nation last year and it looks like we'll be substantially deeper and better this year.

In the video interview with Daz after the scrimmage, he said that he's purposefully choosing not to go vanilla with the defense in preseason scrimmages, which he says many coaches do. Instead, he's throwing all of experienced and polished defenses looks at an inexperienced OLine. He's forging the OLine in fire. They'll get vanilla scrimmages on September 5th and September 12th and you'll see that they will be much better than in the scrimmages.

dtwalrus {l Wrote}:

eepstein0 {l Wrote}:Going simply on these articles, it seems like we have a major QB problem already along with some bad OLine play.

It's fortunate for BC they get two additional scrimmages against Maine and Howard.

For those of you predicting 9 wins or whatever other silliness, we're going to need to score more than 10 points per game or whatever.

Try to remember that the offense is going up against quite possibly the ACC's best defense in these scrimmages. Only VT and Clemson will have comparable defenses. And it's unlikely that any ACC team will have the run-stopping DLine BC does. We finished 2nd against the run in the nation last year and it looks like we'll be substantially deeper and better this year.

In the video interview with Daz after the scrimmage, he said that he's purposefully choosing not to go vanilla with the defense in preseason scrimmages, which he says many coaches do. Instead, he's throwing all of experienced and polished defenses looks at an inexperienced OLine. He's forging the OLine in fire. They'll get vanilla scrimmages on September 5th and September 12th and you'll see that they will be much better than in the scrimmages.

I really like the defense, but best D in the ACC is crazy talk.

31southst {l Wrote}:BC write up at http://www.bceagles.com/sports/m-footbl/spec-rel/082215aaf.html

Free EA summary at https://bostoncollege.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=1794737

Was Milano out? Anyway, nice to see someone else at the SLB. In limited action, Milano looked pretty bad last season.

eepstein0 {l Wrote}:

dtwalrus {l Wrote}:

eepstein0 {l Wrote}:Going simply on these articles, it seems like we have a major QB problem already along with some bad OLine play.

It's fortunate for BC they get two additional scrimmages against Maine and Howard.

For those of you predicting 9 wins or whatever other silliness, we're going to need to score more than 10 points per game or whatever.

Try to remember that the offense is going up against quite possibly the ACC's best defense in these scrimmages. Only VT and Clemson will have comparable defenses. And it's unlikely that any ACC team will have the run-stopping DLine BC does. We finished 2nd against the run in the nation last year and it looks like we'll be substantially deeper and better this year.

In the video interview with Daz after the scrimmage, he said that he's purposefully choosing not to go vanilla with the defense in preseason scrimmages, which he says many coaches do. Instead, he's throwing all of experienced and polished defenses looks at an inexperienced OLine. He's forging the OLine in fire. They'll get vanilla scrimmages on September 5th and September 12th and you'll see that they will be much better than in the scrimmages.

I really like the defense, but best D in the ACC is crazy talk.

Last year we were 3rd in the ACC in scoring defense and 3rd in the ACC in total defense. And we're returning a lot and drastically improving the depth.

Calling calling the 2015 BC Defense possibly the best in the ACC "crazy talk" is crazy talk.

dtwalrus {l Wrote}:

eepstein0 {l Wrote}:

dtwalrus {l Wrote}:

eepstein0 {l Wrote}:Going simply on these articles, it seems like we have a major QB problem already along with some bad OLine play.

It's fortunate for BC they get two additional scrimmages against Maine and Howard.

For those of you predicting 9 wins or whatever other silliness, we're going to need to score more than 10 points per game or whatever.

Try to remember that the offense is going up against quite possibly the ACC's best defense in these scrimmages. Only VT and Clemson will have comparable defenses. And it's unlikely that any ACC team will have the run-stopping DLine BC does. We finished 2nd against the run in the nation last year and it looks like we'll be substantially deeper and better this year.

In the video interview with Daz after the scrimmage, he said that he's purposefully choosing not to go vanilla with the defense in preseason scrimmages, which he says many coaches do. Instead, he's throwing all of experienced and polished defenses looks at an inexperienced OLine. He's forging the OLine in fire. They'll get vanilla scrimmages on September 5th and September 12th and you'll see that they will be much better than in the scrimmages.

I really like the defense, but best D in the ACC is crazy talk.

Last year we were 3rd in the ACC in scoring defense and 3rd in the ACC in total defense. And we're returning a lot and drastically improving the depth.

Calling calling the 2015 BC Defense possibly the best in the ACC "crazy talk" is crazy talk.

I'm going to remember this Best D stuff when Brown gives up yet another game winning drive and folks blame the loss on the offense for not having a bigger lead.

HJS {l Wrote}:

dtwalrus {l Wrote}:

eepstein0 {l Wrote}:

dtwalrus {l Wrote}:

eepstein0 {l Wrote}:Going simply on these articles, it seems like we have a major QB problem already along with some bad OLine play.

It's fortunate for BC they get two additional scrimmages against Maine and Howard.

For those of you predicting 9 wins or whatever other silliness, we're going to need to score more than 10 points per game or whatever.

Try to remember that the offense is going up against quite possibly the ACC's best defense in these scrimmages. Only VT and Clemson will have comparable defenses. And it's unlikely that any ACC team will have the run-stopping DLine BC does. We finished 2nd against the run in the nation last year and it looks like we'll be substantially deeper and better this year.

In the video interview with Daz after the scrimmage, he said that he's purposefully choosing not to go vanilla with the defense in preseason scrimmages, which he says many coaches do. Instead, he's throwing all of experienced and polished defenses looks at an inexperienced OLine. He's forging the OLine in fire. They'll get vanilla scrimmages on September 5th and September 12th and you'll see that they will be much better than in the scrimmages.

I really like the defense, but best D in the ACC is crazy talk.

Last year we were 3rd in the ACC in scoring defense and 3rd in the ACC in total defense. And we're returning a lot and drastically improving the depth.

Calling calling the 2015 BC Defense possibly the best in the ACC "crazy talk" is crazy talk.

I'm going to remember this Best D stuff when Brown gives up yet another game winning drive and folks blame the loss on the offense for not having a bigger lead.

The D is going to be very good, potentially elite if we have some DBs. Johnson and Simmons are going to be terrific at safety, but our CBs are green and Brown leaves them on an island all the time.

The D is being made to look like world beaters by a pretty inept offense at the moment.

eepstein0 {l Wrote}:The D is going to be very good, potentially elite if we have some DBs. Johnson and Simmons are going to be terrific at safety, but our CBs are green and Brown leaves them on an island all the time.

The D is being made to look like world beaters by a pretty inept offense at the moment.

another issue is going to be whether our offense can keep them off the field. if its 3-and-out after 3-and-out every game, even the best Defenses will get tired. Wade (or whoever is the best QB, if its Smith as it sounds like it could be, i hope Addazio doesn't hesitate to make the change) and the O will need to move the sticks every now and then.

25GeraldRd {l Wrote}:

eepstein0 {l Wrote}:The D is going to be very good, potentially elite if we have some DBs. Johnson and Simmons are going to be terrific at safety, but our CBs are green and Brown leaves them on an island all the time.

The D is being made to look like world beaters by a pretty inept offense at the moment.

another issue is going to be whether our offense can keep them off the field. if its 3-and-out after 3-and-out every game, even the best Defenses will get tired. Wade (or whoever is the best QB, if its Smith as it sounds like it could be, i hope Addazio doesn't hesitate to make the change) and the O will need to move the sticks every now and then.

This is also very true and probably qualifies my optimism a bit. A significant part of BC's defensive statistics last year was that the offense won the time of possession battle in almost every game.

Offense definitely needs to grow to put the defense in a position to succeed. Have to hope the experienced backs and Daz's now established ability to craft an offense around the talent available are enough.

The starting D at the scrimmage was: Landry, Kavalec, Wujciak and Gutapfel; Daniels, Schwab and Connor Strachan; Moore, Yiadom, Johnson and Simmons

That is a damn solid group... and when you consider some of the others who didn't start (e.g. Mehdi, Strizak, McClary)... Don Brown has a stocked group to work with. The achilles heel on this team is OL... they pretty much blow. BTW... sounds like Smith passed Flutie on the depth chart.

HJS {l Wrote}:I'm going to remember this Best D stuff when Brown gives up yet another game winning drive and folks blame the loss on the offense for not having a bigger lead.

I know that last year Brown had stated that he was blitzing and leaving our DBs alone due to the inability to generate a pass rush with just the line. Hopefully we have an improvement of our front 4 on the pass rush, and also an improvement in the athleticism and quality of our DBs to help address this this year.

I wish there was video of these scrimmages. I want to know why the passing game is a disaster.

DavidGordonsFoot {l Wrote}:I wish there was video of these scrimmages. I want to know why the passing game is a disaster.

Wade was sacked on back-to-back plays. My guess is that the QBs were pressured constantly.

Also 10 tackles for a loss.

By default, the secondary has to be more athletic than what we've had in the past few years since it can't be much worse. We've probably had the slowest DBs in the league the last few years. How did the OL become such a mess? I mean, some of these guys had good offer lists out of HS, have good size, and Daz is supposed to be an OL wizard.

HJS {l Wrote}:The starting D at the scrimmage was: Landry, Kavalec, Wujciak and Gutapfel; Daniels, Schwab and Connor Strachan; Moore, Yiadom, Johnson and Simmons

That is a damn solid group... and when you consider some of the others who didn't start (e.g. Mehdi, Strizak, McClary)... Don Brown has a stocked group to work with. The achilles heel on this team is OL... they pretty much blow. BTW... sounds like Smith passed Flutie on the depth chart.

Where is Milano? Thought he was penciled in as a starter. Hurt, or passed by Schwab and Strachan?

L35guy {l Wrote}:By default, the secondary has to be more athletic than what we've had in the past few years since it can't be much worse. We've probably had the slowest DBs in the league the last few years. How did the OL become such a mess? I mean, some of these guys had good offer lists out of HS, have good size, and Daz is supposed to be an OL wizard.

Having Harris Williams on the line will stabilize things a bit. He's the best one by a long shot.

The rest is a mix of Spaz recruits and freshman. Realistically, Daz still has a month to figure out the right combination of players since our first game isn't until FSU. Hopefully they can get the penalties sorted out, that stuff drives me nuts (illegal formations, etc.).

eepstein0 {l Wrote}:

L35guy {l Wrote}:By default, the secondary has to be more athletic than what we've had in the past few years since it can't be much worse. We've probably had the slowest DBs in the league the last few years. How did the OL become such a mess? I mean, some of these guys had good offer lists out of HS, have good size, and Daz is supposed to be an OL wizard.

Having Harris Williams on the line will stabilize things a bit. He's the best one by a long shot.

The rest is a mix of Spaz recruits and freshman. Realistically, Daz still has a month to figure out the right combination of players since our first game isn't until FSU. Hopefully they can get the penalties sorted out, that stuff drives me nuts (illegal formations, etc.).

If you are using the term "Spaz recruit" to mean "unwanted recruit", that simply doesn't apply to most of the OL. Many of those guys had great offers, were highly regarded out of HS and have enough size. I'm with L35 - the performance of the OL is on Daz and Frye. This is not the secondary situation from last year.

EagleNYC {l Wrote}:

eepstein0 {l Wrote}:

L35guy {l Wrote}:By default, the secondary has to be more athletic than what we've had in the past few years since it can't be much worse. We've probably had the slowest DBs in the league the last few years. How did the OL become such a mess? I mean, some of these guys had good offer lists out of HS, have good size, and Daz is supposed to be an OL wizard.

Having Harris Williams on the line will stabilize things a bit. He's the best one by a long shot.

The rest is a mix of Spaz recruits and freshman. Realistically, Daz still has a month to figure out the right combination of players since our first game isn't until FSU. Hopefully they can get the penalties sorted out, that stuff drives me nuts (illegal formations, etc.).

If you are using the term "Spaz recruit" to mean "unwanted recruit", that simply doesn't apply to most of the OL. Many of those guys had great offers, were highly regarded out of HS and have enough size. I'm with L35 - the performance of the OL is on Daz and Frye. This is not the secondary situation from last year.

or the kicking game from all daz years...

It's not about there being a lack of talent. It's about the fact that every school in the country has trouble building a line from players with zero experience. That's why Williams is so important.

EagleNYC {l Wrote}:

eepstein0 {l Wrote}:

L35guy {l Wrote}:By default, the secondary has to be more athletic than what we've had in the past few years since it can't be much worse. We've probably had the slowest DBs in the league the last few years. How did the OL become such a mess? I mean, some of these guys had good offer lists out of HS, have good size, and Daz is supposed to be an OL wizard.

Having Harris Williams on the line will stabilize things a bit. He's the best one by a long shot.

The rest is a mix of Spaz recruits and freshman. Realistically, Daz still has a month to figure out the right combination of players since our first game isn't until FSU. Hopefully they can get the penalties sorted out, that stuff drives me nuts (illegal formations, etc.).

If you are using the term "Spaz recruit" to mean "unwanted recruit", that simply doesn't apply to most of the OL. Many of those guys had great offers, were highly regarded out of HS and have enough size. I'm with L35 - the performance of the OL is on Daz and Frye. This is not the secondary situation from last year.

This.

Even in the Spaz years, where recruiting on the whole was dreadful, we were still able to bring in really high quality OLine recruits. It was the one position even Spaz couldn't recruit badly. These are decent recruits, and as underclassmen sitting and waiting their turns they had two years to learn the system and be coached on fundamentals by Daz, a self-professed OLine wizzard.

Pray that the OLine is suffering right now because Williams is out, they're still learning to work together, and the defense really is THAT good. Because if this OLine continues to struggle like this all year, we have to seriously reconsider our opinion of Daz as a coach.

My $'s on the defense just being that good!

r-e-l-a-x

here's what daz said after last year's second scrimmage:

"We had nine turnovers. We don't do that at Boston College. Nine turnovers. For me, it just starts and ends right there. We don't turn the ball over.

Do you think the turnovers and drops were a lack of concentration?
"It is now an emphasis. There will be an extremely bright light on that situation as an emphasis. I'm not going to tolerate any more dropped balls. I'm not going to tolerate any more fumbles and I never did, but we are going to be extremely hyper focused now."

As you get into the final week of preparation before game week, will there be another scrimmage like this?
"Yes there will. I told them we were going again on Wednesday. We are not game ready. That's the way it's going to go. We can't do what we did today."
Yes we will. I keep going. We have to win the war. We need to get this fixed. This is not who we are. We don't do that. It's not okay. The sun doesn't shine, food doesn't very good.

"The backs were okay. Tyler (Rouse) had a really nice run for a touchdown. I thought a couple of the younger guys ran hard at times. We're still young back there. We're missing some cuts and things but it was certainly adequate. It was above the line. It wasn't great. It wasn't bad. It was okay. We missed a couple of perimeter blocks and a couple screens