2015 Summer Practice

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Re: 2015 Summer Practice

Postby DomingoOrtiz on Wed Aug 19, 2015 10:56 am

claver2010 {l Wrote}:people get their tickets yet or no?

given the ticket office's history, i look forward to them arriving the night before the maine game


Got my parking passes yesterday.
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Re: 2015 Summer Practice

Postby BCSUPERFAN22 on Wed Aug 19, 2015 11:55 am

claver2010 {l Wrote}:people get their tickets yet or no?

given the ticket office's history, i look forward to them arriving the night before the maine game


We got ours a week ago. Don't believe we have received our parking passes yet.
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Re: 2015 Summer Practice

Postby Corporal Funishment on Wed Aug 19, 2015 12:55 pm

DomingoOrtiz {l Wrote}:
Bunratty {l Wrote}:As per The Dazzler, the 2 fastest players on the team are Taj Amir-Torres and Isaac Yiadom. Is Massachusetts the new Florida?


Where did you see this?


http://www.telegram.com/article/2015081 ... 01360/NEWS
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Re: 2015 Summer Practice

Postby twballgame9 on Wed Aug 19, 2015 1:06 pm

I think Yiadom is going to be a star at corner.
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Re: 2015 Summer Practice

Postby Bunratty on Wed Aug 19, 2015 1:16 pm

DomingoOrtiz {l Wrote}:
Bunratty {l Wrote}:As per The Dazzler, the 2 fastest players on the team are Taj Amir-Torres and Isaac Yiadom. Is Massachusetts the new Florida?


Where did you see this?

He said it in an article in the Worcester Telegram (sorry, missed CP's post above).
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Re: 2015 Summer Practice

Postby DomingoOrtiz on Wed Aug 19, 2015 1:25 pm

Corporal Funishment {l Wrote}:
DomingoOrtiz {l Wrote}:
Bunratty {l Wrote}:As per The Dazzler, the 2 fastest players on the team are Taj Amir-Torres and Isaac Yiadom. Is Massachusetts the new Florida?


Where did you see this?


http://www.telegram.com/article/2015081 ... 01360/NEWS


Thanks. That was of the most informative BC football articles I have ever read.
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Re: 2015 Summer Practice

Postby eepstein0 on Wed Aug 19, 2015 8:47 pm

25GeraldRd {l Wrote}:
twballgame9 {l Wrote}:
eepstein0 {l Wrote}:
25GeraldRd {l Wrote}:from that Vega article:

"I feel like if I wanted to run the ball, I would’ve just become a running back,’’ he added. “I’m a quarterback for a reason. I love to throw the ball. I love to be able to vertically stretch the defense and make deep passes down the field and just really make explosive and exciting plays. I’m going to do whatever Coach asks me to do and try to really help the team open up the passing game. If he needs me to run the ball, I’m going to run the ball. But I just want to try and help lead the team to victory."

its going to be a work in progress with the line and the new WRs, but its interesting to note that next year we have 2 TE commits and 2 WR commits. other than dudeck and swigert, our WR stable is young as well. Sherm, Callinan, Thadd Smith and Barksdale are all sophs, and Borgerson, Pankey and Garrison are all freshmen. based just on how the roster is being built, i'd guess Addazio is going to open it up and let Wade chuck it once he feels confident in Wade's ability to handle the offense.


BC isn't chucking it even if Matt Ryan had a year of eligibility left. We'll always be a running team, which coincidentally is going to give you the best chance to beat FSU, Clemson, etc. throwing involves athletes which we don't have tons of.


This was true the past two years but will not always be so. BC will always be a run first team because they want to be, and that will keep them in games with FSU and Clemson despite two years with a lack of talent. Best chance to actually beat those two teams is with a good QB, however. Had Murphy been a slightly better passer, BC wins both last season (that's not a knock on him, as his legs kept BC in both games). Just saying BC is 2-0 in those games last year with not so great talent and a true dual threat QB.


right. i don't think we'll go to a mike leach spread offense and throw 50+ times a game. we threw slightly less with Murphy under center than we did with Rettig (260 vs. 230, or about 3 pass attempts per game), but i'd expect the Rettig number (260) to be normal and potentially inch up to around 280-290 in years we have a QB who can throw a spiral and more than 1 WR who can beat his man.

that said, with Wade breaking in this year, relatively green WRs and a line that can't pass block, i'd expect Wade to throw for more than 20 passes maybe 2-3x this year. for comparison, Murphy threw 20+ passes in two games (Umass and Pitt) while Rettig did it 7 times.


When was the last time we had 2 WRs that could actually get open?
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Re: 2015 Summer Practice

Postby eagle9903 on Thu Aug 20, 2015 7:51 am

eepstein0 {l Wrote}:When was the last time we had 2 WRs that could actually get open?


Do Gunnell and Robinson count? If so them, otherwise I don't know.
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Re: 2015 Summer Practice

Postby TobaccoRoadEagle on Thu Aug 20, 2015 7:59 am

eagle9903 {l Wrote}:
eepstein0 {l Wrote}:When was the last time we had 2 WRs that could actually get open?


Do Gunnell and Robinson count? If so them, otherwise I don't know.

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Re: 2015 Summer Practice

Postby 31southst on Fri Aug 21, 2015 6:33 am

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Re: 2015 Summer Practice

Postby 25GeraldRd on Fri Aug 21, 2015 7:05 am



interesting. probably a good thing that the 2 QB backups (Flutie and Smith) now get slightly more reps.

the WR depth chart is pretty interesting. here it is broken down by class:
SR: Swigert, Dudeck
JR: Jackson
SO: Callinan, Alston, Smith, Barksdale
FR: Borgerson, Pankey, Glines, Robinson, Garrison

one the one hand, would be nice to redshirt some guys and build some depth. on the other hand, if guys like Borgerson, Glines, Pankey can make more plays than Jackson or Dudeck, i hope they see the field.
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Re: 2015 Summer Practice

Postby DomingoOrtiz on Fri Aug 21, 2015 7:15 am



Interesting, of the 3 backups, I thought Robinson was least likely to move. Sounds like a pretty mature kid.
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Re: 2015 Summer Practice

Postby twballgame9 on Fri Aug 21, 2015 10:34 am

DomingoOrtiz {l Wrote}:


Interesting, of the 3 backups, I thought Robinson was least likely to move. Sounds like a pretty mature kid.


Agreed, though this may also have to do with Brown coming in.
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Re: 2015 Summer Practice

Postby L35guy on Fri Aug 21, 2015 1:23 pm

Strange.. I figured the one most likely to move would be Smith. I guess this means that Smith won't be redshirting. Does Robinson have the speed to be an ACC receiver? I wonder if this is an indication that Robinson wasn't the passer the staff thought or that Smith is a better passer than they thought.
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Re: 2015 Summer Practice

Postby BCSUPERFAN22 on Fri Aug 21, 2015 1:41 pm

L35guy {l Wrote}:Strange.. I figured the one most likely to move would be Smith. I guess this means that Smith won't be redshirting. Does Robinson have the speed to be an ACC receiver? I wonder if this is an indication that Robinson wasn't the passer the staff thought or that Smith is a better passer than they thought.


Smith seems to be the more athletic of the 2 which lead me to believe he would be the one to eventually make a switch. Robinson has also been on campus since last winter, would have thought his familiarity with the system would have left in on the QB depth chart.
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Re: 2015 Summer Practice

Postby L35guy on Fri Aug 21, 2015 1:57 pm

BCSUPERFAN22 {l Wrote}:
L35guy {l Wrote}:Strange.. I figured the one most likely to move would be Smith. I guess this means that Smith won't be redshirting. Does Robinson have the speed to be an ACC receiver? I wonder if this is an indication that Robinson wasn't the passer the staff thought or that Smith is a better passer than they thought.


Smith seems to be the more athletic of the 2 which lead me to believe he would be the one to eventually make a switch. Robinson has also been on campus since last winter, would have thought his familiarity with the system would have left in on the QB depth chart.


Exactly. It's alarming to say the least that he still wasnt progressing enough as a QB to stay there. Hopefully, no QB gets hurt this year with only 3 on the roster
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Re: 2015 Summer Practice

Postby flakes on Fri Aug 21, 2015 2:01 pm

I would not be surprised if Smith is the long-term solution at QB…kid is a stud. Murphy-like ability to run but he can really throw as well. Given our low-grade talent at WR, we need a true playmaker at QB and I think he fits the bill. I was very much expecting Robinson to be moved.
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Re: 2015 Summer Practice

Postby flakes on Fri Aug 21, 2015 2:02 pm

I would not be surprised if Smith is the long-term solution at QB…kid is a stud. Murphy-like ability to run but he can really throw as well. Given our low-grade talent at WR, we need a true playmaker at QB and I think he fits the bill. I was very much expecting Robinson to be moved.
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Re: 2015 Summer Practice

Postby gallopingghost on Fri Aug 21, 2015 2:37 pm

L35guy {l Wrote}: Does Robinson have the speed to be an ACC receiver?


No.

Not a good move. There is a greater need at depth at QB than at wide receiver.
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Re: 2015 Summer Practice

Postby L35guy on Fri Aug 21, 2015 3:18 pm

gallopingghost {l Wrote}:
L35guy {l Wrote}: Does Robinson have the speed to be an ACC receiver?


No.

Not a good move. There is a greater need at depth at QB than at wide receiver.


Do any of our receivers, other than Alston, have the speed to be an ACC receiver?
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Re: 2015 Summer Practice

Postby twballgame9 on Fri Aug 21, 2015 3:49 pm

Robinson is plenty fast enough
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Re: 2015 Summer Practice

Postby dtwalrus on Fri Aug 21, 2015 4:33 pm



The Robinson tidbit is interesting, but my favorite part of that article is Conor Wujciak talking about the defense being even better this year. I am so fucking excited to see the defense this year. We're probably not far enough removed from the dumpster-fire fallout from the Spaz years yet to say this, but I will anyway: I loved watching BC in the mid-2000's with Spaz's dominant D. Kept us in every game. Hell, we won 10 games and made it to the ACCCG with Chris Crane leading the offense!

2 more weeks!

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Re: 2015 Summer Practice

Postby b0mberMan on Fri Aug 21, 2015 5:52 pm

[quote="dtwalrus"]Hell, we won 10 games and made it to the ACCCG with Chris Crane leading the offense!/quote]
We won 9 games
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Re: 2015 Summer Practice

Postby Oliver Closeoff on Fri Aug 21, 2015 9:00 pm

Ben Glines has broken collar bone, out 6-8 weeks. Assuming he'll redshirt. :lame :shrug :lame
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Re: 2015 Summer Practice

Postby 25GeraldRd on Fri Aug 21, 2015 11:11 pm

Oliver Closeoff {l Wrote}:Ben Glines has broken collar bone, out 6-8 weeks. Assuming he'll redshirt. :lame :shrug :lame


brutal. gotta feel for Glines, who was by all accounts having a great camp.

updated 2016 WR depth chart

SR: Jackson
JR: Callinan, Alston, Smith, Barksdale
SO: Borgerson, Pankey, Robinson, Garrison
FR: Glines, Kobay White (*** PA), Gray (*** NJ) [same HS as Hilliman]
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Re: 2015 Summer Practice

Postby L35guy on Sat Aug 22, 2015 12:30 am

25GeraldRd {l Wrote}:
Oliver Closeoff {l Wrote}:Ben Glines has broken collar bone, out 6-8 weeks. Assuming he'll redshirt. :lame :shrug :lame


brutal. gotta feel for Glines, who was by all accounts having a great camp.

updated 2016 WR depth chart

SR: Jackson
JR: Callinan, Alston, Smith, Barksdale
SO: Borgerson, Pankey, Robinson, Garrison
FR: Glines, Kobay White (*** PA), Gray (*** NJ) [same HS as Hilliman]


You forgot Connor McStravick, 3* out of TX
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Re: 2015 Summer Practice

Postby DomingoOrtiz on Sat Aug 22, 2015 7:39 am

L35guy {l Wrote}:
gallopingghost {l Wrote}:
L35guy {l Wrote}: Does Robinson have the speed to be an ACC receiver?


No.

Not a good move. There is a greater need at depth at QB than at wide receiver.


Do any of our receivers, other than Alston, have the speed to be an ACC receiver?


Thought I read in the spring that Borgersen was the fastest WR?
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Re: 2015 Summer Practice

Postby claver2010 on Sat Aug 22, 2015 7:55 am

yeah but it's deceptive speed
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Re: 2015 Summer Practice

Postby eepstein0 on Sat Aug 22, 2015 2:39 pm

claver2010 {l Wrote}:yeah but it's deceptive speed


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Re: 2015 Summer Practice

Postby capecod13 on Sat Aug 22, 2015 2:51 pm

DomingoOrtiz {l Wrote}:
L35guy {l Wrote}:
gallopingghost {l Wrote}:
L35guy {l Wrote}: Does Robinson have the speed to be an ACC receiver?


No.

Not a good move. There is a greater need at depth at QB than at wide receiver.


Do any of our receivers, other than Alston, have the speed to be an ACC receiver?


Thought I read in the spring that Borgersen was the fastest WR?


According to Daz, Borgerson's been out hurt all camp.
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