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Re: Coaching Carousel 2014/15 Edition

Postby HammarMA on Fri Dec 12, 2014 1:33 pm

The UM Scout site has article today mentioning five names/finalists?? (though title says four): Jim Harbaugh, Les Miles, Jim Mora, Sean Peyton and Addazio.
I don't think any of these will become coach, but Harbaugh would be the most likely.

http://michigan.scout.com/story/1491324 ... -job?s=162
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Re: Coaching Carousel 2014/15 Edition

Postby twballgame9 on Fri Dec 12, 2014 1:43 pm

HammarMA {l Wrote}:The UM Scout site has article today mentioning five names/finalists?? (though title says four): Jim Harbaugh, Les Miles, Jim Mora, Sean Peyton and Addazio.
I don't think any of these will become coach, but Harbaugh would be the most likely.

http://michigan.scout.com/story/1491324 ... -job?s=162


This is some funny shit.
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Re: Coaching Carousel 2014/15 Edition

Postby b0mberMan on Fri Dec 12, 2014 1:44 pm

HammarMA {l Wrote}:The UM Scout site has article today mentioning five names/finalists?? (though title says four): Jim Harbaugh, Les Miles, Jim Mora, Sean Peyton and Addazio.
I don't think any of these will become coach, but Harbaugh would be the most likely.

http://michigan.scout.com/story/1491324 ... -job?s=162

That can't be the real list. They left Belicheck and the re-animated and no longer racist corpse of Fielding Yost off of it.

EDIT: Fielding Yost, not Ned.
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Re: Coaching Carousel 2014/15 Edition

Postby twballgame9 on Fri Dec 12, 2014 1:48 pm

b0mberMan {l Wrote}:
HammarMA {l Wrote}:The UM Scout site has article today mentioning five names/finalists?? (though title says four): Jim Harbaugh, Les Miles, Jim Mora, Sean Peyton and Addazio.
I don't think any of these will become coach, but Harbaugh would be the most likely.

http://michigan.scout.com/story/1491324 ... -job?s=162

That can't be the real list. They left Belicheck and the re-animated and no longer racist corpse of Ned Yost off of it.


They left Schiano off because he took himself out of consideration
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Re: Coaching Carousel 2014/15 Edition

Postby b0mberMan on Fri Dec 12, 2014 1:51 pm

Harbaugh is just going to use this to get a shit load of money from the Jets when they trade him, isn't he?
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Re: Coaching Carousel 2014/15 Edition

Postby DavidGordonsFoot on Fri Dec 12, 2014 1:54 pm

HammarMA {l Wrote}:The UM Scout site has article today mentioning five names/finalists?? (though title says four): Jim Harbaugh, Les Miles, Jim Mora, Sean Peyton and Addazio.
I don't think any of these will become coach, but Harbaugh would be the most likely.

http://michigan.scout.com/story/1491324 ... -job?s=162

So let's see; an NFC champion, an NCAA National Champion, an FBS coach with three consecutive 9+ win seasons, a Super Bowl Champion, and an FBS coach with back-to-back 7-5 seasons.
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Re: Coaching Carousel 2014/15 Edition

Postby b0mberMan on Fri Dec 12, 2014 2:09 pm

You really should read M Go Blog for insanity right now. The name Marvin Lewis was chucked out at one point. That's about as funny as twb's Herm Edwards obsession.
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Re: Coaching Carousel 2014/15 Edition

Postby HJS on Fri Dec 12, 2014 2:12 pm

DavidGordonsFoot {l Wrote}:
HammarMA {l Wrote}:The UM Scout site has article today mentioning five names/finalists?? (though title says four): Jim Harbaugh, Les Miles, Jim Mora, Sean Peyton and Addazio.
I don't think any of these will become coach, but Harbaugh would be the most likely.

http://michigan.scout.com/story/1491324 ... -job?s=162

So let's see; an NFC champion, an NCAA National Champion, an FBS coach with three consecutive 9+ win seasons, a Super Bowl Champion, and an FBS coach with back-to-back 7-5 seasons.

If they are willing to pay 5mm per year, they can get any of those but Payton. However, of they are going to pay around 3, Dazoo is the only realistic option.

That's assuming that Pitt hasn't stolen him yet.
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Re: Coaching Carousel 2014/15 Edition

Postby DomingoOrtiz on Fri Dec 12, 2014 2:14 pm

b0mberMan {l Wrote}:You really should read M Go Blog for insanity right now. The name Marvin Lewis was chucked out at one point. That's about as funny as twb's Herm Edwards obsession.


FAN PECKING ORDER. 24/7 ran a series of polls asking their users about whether coaching candidates would be okay. The results:

Harbaugh (95% yes)
Stoops (89%)
Miles (81%)
Mora (77%)
Mullen (69%)
Herman (49%)
Bielema (46%)
Narduzzi (41%)
Cutcliffe (41%)
Whittingham (34%)
Gundy (29%)
Schiano (14%)
Addazio (12%)
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Re: Coaching Carousel 2014/15 Edition

Postby HJS on Fri Dec 12, 2014 2:21 pm

DomingoOrtiz {l Wrote}:
b0mberMan {l Wrote}:You really should read M Go Blog for insanity right now. The name Marvin Lewis was chucked out at one point. That's about as funny as twb's Herm Edwards obsession.


FAN PECKING ORDER. 24/7 ran a series of polls asking their users about whether coaching candidates would be okay. The results:

Harbaugh (95% yes)
Stoops (89%)
Miles (81%)
Mora (77%)
Mullen (69%)
Herman (49%)
Bielema (46%)
Narduzzi (41%)
Cutcliffe (41%)
Whittingham (34%)
Gundy (29%)
Schiano (14%)
Addazio (12%)

While they are insane, I find the support for tOSU's Tom Herman the most shocking result.
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Re: Coaching Carousel 2014/15 Edition

Postby claver2010 on Fri Dec 12, 2014 2:26 pm

who were the 5% who voted against harbaugh?
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Re: Coaching Carousel 2014/15 Edition

Postby PhillyandBCEagles on Fri Dec 12, 2014 2:32 pm

claver2010 {l Wrote}:who were the 5% who voted against harbaugh?


Trolls and/or geriatrics who don't approve of his association with Kaepernick and other "thugs" in the NFL

:thehjs but if I'm Pitt I kick the tires on Jags
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Re: Coaching Carousel 2014/15 Edition

Postby DavidGordonsFoot on Fri Dec 12, 2014 2:34 pm

Did they poll them on Dantonio? Because I would love to see that number.
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Re: Coaching Carousel 2014/15 Edition

Postby twballgame9 on Fri Dec 12, 2014 4:06 pm

b0mberMan {l Wrote}:You really should read M Go Blog for insanity right now. The name Marvin Lewis was chucked out at one point. That's about as funny as twb's Herm Edwards obsession.


I wasn't obsessed with Herm Edwards, I was obsessed with Jay Wright. Herm was more of a passing trend for me, like Flutie as AD
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Re: Coaching Carousel 2014/15 Edition

Postby HJS on Mon Dec 15, 2014 9:42 pm

I am amused that Dazoo still gets mentioned as a frontrunner for the Michigan gig.
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Re: Coaching Carousel 2014/15 Edition

Postby flyingelvii on Tue Dec 16, 2014 12:09 am

They all think they're getting Harbaugh. And that they are too good for Miles. It'd be funnier if it weren't so sad.
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Re: Coaching Carousel 2014/15 Edition

Postby claver2010 on Tue Dec 16, 2014 8:20 am

flyingelvii {l Wrote}:They all think they're getting Harbaugh. And that they are too good for Miles. It'd be funnier if it weren't so sad.


it's still pretty damn funny
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Re: Coaching Carousel 2014/15 Edition

Postby talon on Tue Dec 16, 2014 9:33 am

If Jim Harbaugh told Michigan "I'll take the job for $x,000,000 per year," is there a value of x that would make Michigan say no?
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Re: Coaching Carousel 2014/15 Edition

Postby commavegarage on Tue Dec 16, 2014 9:54 am

talon {l Wrote}:If Jim Harbaugh told Michigan "I'll take the job for $x,000,000 per year," is there a value of x that would make Michigan say no?


I think they may say no at 2,500,000,000 a year.
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Re: Coaching Carousel 2014/15 Edition

Postby twballgame9 on Tue Dec 16, 2014 10:02 am

Have we all forgotten that Jim Harbaugh took a team with a sick defense, excellent OL, good if old RB, and solid WRs and handed the ball to a dude that can't throw straight over an accurate game manager?
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Re: Coaching Carousel 2014/15 Edition

Postby HJS on Tue Dec 16, 2014 12:22 pm

You can never take these denials at face value, but Miles says he has no interest in ever returning to Michigan.
http://espn.go.com/college-football/sto ... wolverines

If Harbaugh isn't interested, it would behoove his alma mater to make that known publicly so it can move forward with a more realistic search. To me, the weirdest name on that upsurd wishlist is Sean Payton. He hasn't coached in college in 20 years (and never higher than the MAC). He didn't go to Michigan, wasn't raised there and (as far as I can tell) has absolutely no connection to the place.

Once you remove the ridiculous names, I think Sumlin and Schiano fit best. I actually think Mullen would be wonderful for that job... if the fans hadn't run RichRod out of town.
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Re: Coaching Carousel 2014/15 Edition

Postby flyingelvii on Tue Dec 16, 2014 12:38 pm

There are a lot of sources from big donors that are saying a Harbaugh deal is all but done. Not sure if the news is coming from Texas or not but it's being used as gospel by multiple outlets.
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Re: Coaching Carousel 2014/15 Edition

Postby DavidGordonsFoot on Tue Dec 16, 2014 12:41 pm

PACK YER BAGS!!
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Re: Coaching Carousel 2014/15 Edition

Postby twballgame9 on Tue Dec 16, 2014 12:47 pm

Pelini to Youngstown State. Ouch.
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Re: Coaching Carousel 2014/15 Edition

Postby HJS on Tue Dec 16, 2014 1:12 pm

flyingelvii {l Wrote}:There are a lot of sources from big donors that are saying a Harbaugh deal is all but done. Not sure if the news is coming from Texas or not but it's being used as gospel by multiple outlets.

Big Michigan donors have said the same about Miles 3 times and said the same about Harbaugh before they wound up with Hoke. Harbaugh is done with the 49ers. But, he will have his pick of ANY NFL opening (and there will be a bunch) (especially with Gruden officially off the market). The question is whether he wants to stay in the NFL or go back to college.

BTW... I just now realized that Chryst has not yet been hired. While all indications are that he is the choice, Barry A apparently still met with Schiano.
http://www.cbssports.com/collegefootbal ... eg-schiano
Damn... Chryst is really putting Pitt in a pretty terrible position. He is holding up their ability to do a search. Their recruiting class is essentially in a state of limbo. And, if he somehow doesn't get the job... awkward.
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Re: Coaching Carousel 2014/15 Edition

Postby HJS on Tue Dec 16, 2014 3:06 pm

So... apparently Chryst is flying to Madison, meeting with the Chancellor and staying over night.
http://pittsburgh.cbslocal.com/2014/12/ ... hancellor/

Thought that this was interesting... shows how bad Spaz was in numbers.
http://regressing.deadspin.com/chart-wh ... 36/+kylenw
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Re: Coaching Carousel 2014/15 Edition

Postby talon on Tue Dec 16, 2014 3:37 pm

HJS {l Wrote}:Thought that this was interesting... shows how bad Spaz was in numbers.
http://regressing.deadspin.com/chart-wh ... 36/+kylenw


"Only coaches that were fired or forced to resign or retire for on-field reasons from 2005-2014 were included."

Was Bobby Bowden technically fired?

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Re: Coaching Carousel 2014/15 Edition

Postby twballgame9 on Tue Dec 16, 2014 3:37 pm

talon {l Wrote}:
HJS {l Wrote}:Thought that this was interesting... shows how bad Spaz was in numbers.
http://regressing.deadspin.com/chart-wh ... 36/+kylenw


"Only coaches that were fired or forced to resign or retire for on-field reasons from 2005-2014 were included."

Was Bobby Bowden technically fired?

http://www.seminoles.com/ViewArticle.db ... =209546379


It also didn't include more than one coach from a school from what I can tell. Jags should be on there.
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Re: Coaching Carousel 2014/15 Edition

Postby dtwalrus on Tue Dec 16, 2014 3:56 pm

HJS {l Wrote}:So... apparently Chryst is flying to Madison, meeting with the Chancellor and staying over night.
http://pittsburgh.cbslocal.com/2014/12/ ... hancellor/

Thought that this was interesting... shows how bad Spaz was in numbers.
http://regressing.deadspin.com/chart-wh ... 36/+kylenw


Interesting read, re: Spaz. But I can't help but feel that these metrics grossly shortchange how terrible Spaz was. The statistics compare the average team performance under the Coach (Spaz) with the average team performance for the 10 years prior to the coach (TOB and Jags combo), but completely ignores trend. Ignoring the trend just grossly understates the problem.

First of all, looking at raw numbers and wins (ignoring trend for the moment), I still don't think this article does justice to the Spaz disaster. Spaz won on average 5.2 games per season during his 4 years, which most would casually look at and think of mediocre, but not horrible. And following the articles timeframe, in the 10 years prior to Spaz, Boston College averaged 8.9 wins per year, for a Spaz differential of 3.7 fewer wins, which is a big drop but not monstrous. However, if we fiddle with the metric a bit and look at the 5 years prior to Spaz rather than 10, suddenly its a drop from an average of 9.6 wins to 5.2, which is 4.6 or almost half as many wins. I know the article doesn't use wins and is using the SRS rating, but the general idea holds.

But forget about that, because it's ridiculous to judge a coach's 4 year stint based on total, especially when there is such an overwhelming and obvious trend at play. Spaz's "average" performance in no way captures Spaz's actual performance. As everyone knows, Spaz's trend was disastrous (8 --> 7 --> 4 -->2). Forget about 5.2, because there is no one alive that can realistically say that had Spaz stayed another 10 years that he would've continued to average anywhere close to 5 wins a season. I think most following the team would agree that we were destined for an average around 3 +/- 0.5. Compare that number with the 10 year prior average and Spaz's tenure was appalling. Worse, compare that average with the trend of the team before Spaz. In the 10 years prior to Spaz, the team won 9, 11, 10, 9, 9, 8, 9, 7, 8, and 9 (going backwards in time). The trend was towards a solid 10 +/- 0.5 win team. And the last 5 of those years included a Conference Co-Championship (granted in a watered down Big East) and two ACCCG appearances. Now we're comparing a likely 3 win BC to a likely 10 win BC. That would be off the charts on Deadspin.

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Re: Coaching Carousel 2014/15 Edition

Postby HJS on Tue Dec 16, 2014 4:36 pm

twballgame9 {l Wrote}:
talon {l Wrote}:
HJS {l Wrote}:Thought that this was interesting... shows how bad Spaz was in numbers.
http://regressing.deadspin.com/chart-wh ... 36/+kylenw


"Only coaches that were fired or forced to resign or retire for on-field reasons from 2005-2014 were included."

Was Bobby Bowden technically fired?

http://www.seminoles.com/ViewArticle.db ... =209546379


It also didn't include more than one coach from a school from what I can tell. Jags should be on there.

But, Jags wasn't fired for "on-field reasons".
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