Weekly Updated Depth Chart 2014-15

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Re: Weekly Updated Depth Chart 2014-15

Postby joesim on Mon Aug 25, 2014 5:51 pm

Surprised to see Sherm Alston so far down the depth chart
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Re: Weekly Updated Depth Chart 2014-15

Postby angrychicken on Mon Aug 25, 2014 5:53 pm

twballgame9 {l Wrote}:Flutie's not starting?

Secret weapon. Notice they don't list who the holder is on field goals. Sneaky. Verrrrrry sneaky.
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Re: Weekly Updated Depth Chart 2014-15

Postby DavidGordonsFoot on Mon Aug 25, 2014 5:58 pm

twballgame9 {l Wrote}:
DavidGordonsFoot {l Wrote}:Bordner starting in the slot, unbelievable.


That looks like the blocking WR combination. I wouldn't be surprised to see a repeat of that Buffalo game where there were like 80 carries.

After reading this depth chart, I would be OK with that.
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Re: Weekly Updated Depth Chart 2014-15

Postby DavidGordonsFoot on Mon Aug 25, 2014 6:09 pm

Bordner, Duggan, Gallik and Dom Williams named captains.

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Re: Weekly Updated Depth Chart 2014-15

Postby DomingoOrtiz on Mon Aug 25, 2014 6:34 pm

DavidGordonsFoot {l Wrote}:Bordner starting in the slot, unbelievable.



If Crimmins and Bordner are two of our best WRs, we are in very big trouble. Hopefully this is just a motivational/reward thing.
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Re: Weekly Updated Depth Chart 2014-15

Postby eepstein0 on Mon Aug 25, 2014 7:08 pm

DomingoOrtiz {l Wrote}:
DavidGordonsFoot {l Wrote}:Bordner starting in the slot, unbelievable.



If Crimmins and Bordner are two of our best WRs, we are in very big trouble. Hopefully this is just a motivational/reward thing.


Agreed 100% here.
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Re: Weekly Updated Depth Chart 2014-15

Postby twballgame9 on Mon Aug 25, 2014 7:16 pm

6-7 receivers play every week anyway. Named starters don't matter
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Re: Weekly Updated Depth Chart 2014-15

Postby eagle9903 on Mon Aug 25, 2014 7:16 pm

eepstein0 {l Wrote}:
DomingoOrtiz {l Wrote}:
DavidGordonsFoot {l Wrote}:Bordner starting in the slot, unbelievable.



If Crimmins and Bordner are two of our best WRs, we are in very big trouble. Hopefully this is just a motivational/reward thing.


Agreed 100% here.


I saw the depth chart and my first thought was eepstein is not going to like this.

I think Philips isn't a starter because he hasn't practiced, I assume he gets the majority of snaps at Z receiver and its just ego management. I also assume Alston plays a lot but is only part of certain packages because he is 5'6. Finally, Teddy's thought that this looks like a blocking formation seems pretty likely too.
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Re: Weekly Updated Depth Chart 2014-15

Postby BCEagles25 on Mon Aug 25, 2014 7:32 pm

I remember watching Alston's tape and thinking "holy shit, this kid will probably start at slot and be unbelievable." but, uh, I guess a QB starting there is just as good as a lightning quick kid with unreal speed. err.
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Re: Weekly Updated Depth Chart 2014-15

Postby BCSUPERFAN22 on Mon Aug 25, 2014 7:34 pm

I don't mind Bordner and Crimmins starting especially with a deep/talented (on paper) depth chart of 5 RBs. They're gonna run a lot, and bigger/stronger bodies block better than fast freshman
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Re: Weekly Updated Depth Chart 2014-15

Postby BCEagles25 on Mon Aug 25, 2014 7:37 pm

BCSUPERFAN22 {l Wrote}:I don't mind Bordner and Crimmins starting especially with a deep/talented (on paper) depth chart of 5 RBs. They're gonna run a lot, and bigger/stronger bodies block better than fast freshman


that may be true, but with those guys starting we're going to be seeing a lot of defenses loading the box, where a burner would keep the defense honest.
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Re: Weekly Updated Depth Chart 2014-15

Postby b0mberMan on Mon Aug 25, 2014 7:54 pm

We're also playing UMass and have 4 or 5 seniors starting on our OLine. So we may not need to keep anyone honest for game 1.
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Re: Weekly Updated Depth Chart 2014-15

Postby BCSUPERFAN22 on Mon Aug 25, 2014 8:03 pm

BCEagles25 {l Wrote}:
BCSUPERFAN22 {l Wrote}:I don't mind Bordner and Crimmins starting especially with a deep/talented (on paper) depth chart of 5 RBs. They're gonna run a lot, and bigger/stronger bodies block better than fast freshman


that may be true, but with those guys starting we're going to be seeing a lot of defenses loading the box, where a burner would keep the defense honest.


You're right but I get the impression this is just prelim. SA said were gonna see a lot of freshman so hopefully from a passing perspective this is more of a lack of experience thing.
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Re: Weekly Updated Depth Chart 2014-15

Postby 2001Eagle on Mon Aug 25, 2014 8:12 pm

Why isn't Daniels a starter?
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Re: Weekly Updated Depth Chart 2014-15

Postby twballgame9 on Mon Aug 25, 2014 8:52 pm

2001Eagle {l Wrote}:Why isn't Daniels a starter?


I've never seen anything from him that screams that he should be a starter. He's slow. He's from the Ted Johnson school of making a lot of tackles.
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Re: Weekly Updated Depth Chart 2014-15

Postby hansen on Mon Aug 25, 2014 10:46 pm

DomingoOrtiz {l Wrote}:Offense

X Receiver
Callinan
Jay
Dixon

A Receiver
Bordner
Smith/McClary

Z Receiver
Crimmins
Phillips/Barksdale
Alston


Are X, A, Z the buttons on my XBox controller I need to use to pass them the ball? :shrug
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Re: Weekly Updated Depth Chart 2014-15

Postby hansen on Mon Aug 25, 2014 11:05 pm

BCEagles25 {l Wrote}:
BCSUPERFAN22 {l Wrote}:I don't mind Bordner and Crimmins starting especially with a deep/talented (on paper) depth chart of 5 RBs. They're gonna run a lot, and bigger/stronger bodies block better than fast freshman


that may be true, but with those guys starting we're going to be seeing a lot of defenses loading the box, where a burner would keep the defense honest.


With a mobile QB and a slew of talented RBs, you would think later in the season (when games matter) running a HB option to the edges might help. at the very least, it would add some variety to the pre-snap HB runs and post-snap zone reads. Of course, with no depth at QB i'm not sure Daz wants to run those type of plays and have the QB take a lot of hits and chance injury.

and, i disagree with your premise. i actually think defenses stacking the box might help our offense as it will allow some of our WRs to create some separation down the field in one on one situations if they put 8 in the box. but, If the opposing defenses play us zone, then i'm not sure we will be successful as we dont really have the type of standout WRs who can get open in the box.

WR is definitely a huge question mark. it won't matter for UMASS but for the ACC slate of games we are going to need somebody to step up. hopefully, by then one of the uconn guys will rise to the challenge or swiggert can get healthy.
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Re: Weekly Updated Depth Chart 2014-15

Postby footer20 on Mon Aug 25, 2014 11:57 pm

I'm taking this all w/ a grain of salt. Daz said 4 or 5 frosh will get time, and that Phillips is ready to go. I also can't imagine Daniels not starting. I will update this after the UMass game.
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Re: Weekly Updated Depth Chart 2014-15

Postby rktbrkr on Tue Aug 26, 2014 6:27 am

I can't imagine swigert being a deep threat after all his surgeries, probably be playing an extra tackle a lot of plays - like Stamford has done the past few years.

What team wouldn't put 8 in a box against BC until BC shows some deep threat? Everything needs to fall perfect to make a bowl.
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Re: Weekly Updated Depth Chart 2014-15

Postby DomingoOrtiz on Tue Aug 26, 2014 6:53 am

rktbrkr {l Wrote}:I can't imagine swigert being a deep threat after all his surgeries, .



Especially since he was not a deep threat before the surgeries.
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Re: Weekly Updated Depth Chart 2014-15

Postby eagle9903 on Tue Aug 26, 2014 6:54 am

rktbrkr {l Wrote}:I can't imagine swigert being a deep threat after all his surgeries, probably be playing an extra tackle a lot of plays - like Stamford has done the past few years.

What team wouldn't put 8 in a box against BC until BC shows some deep threat? Everything needs to fall perfect to make a bowl.


I do not agree that everything needs to fall perfect to make a bowl. I also don't think we'll be emulating the playing style of UConn-Stamford.
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Re: Weekly Updated Depth Chart 2014-15

Postby claver2010 on Tue Aug 26, 2014 7:09 am

twballgame9 {l Wrote}:
2001Eagle {l Wrote}:Why isn't Daniels a starter?


I've never seen anything from him that screams that he should be a starter. He's slow. He's from the Ted Johnson school of making a lot of tackles.


Disagree, he looked terribly slow against Nova last year (maybe he was nursing an injury) but after that he was pretty good. He should be or will be starting

Edit: here's what daz said on FR playing as well

On freshman playing time in the season-opener:

In the game you'll probably see four freshmen on offense and a couple of redshirt freshman. So you'll see 4-6 players in there who have really not see much of anything on offense. And on defense, it will probably be very much the same. That's a lot. You'll probably see anywhere form 6-10 freshmen during the course of the game. A guy like Matt Milano, who played a handful of snaps last year, you're going to see him a lot. Gutapel (BC sophomore DT, Truman Gutapel) who only played a handful of snaps last year - you'll see him a ton. Thaddius Smith, Gabe McClary, Jon Hilliman, Kamrin Moore, John Johnson, you'll see all those guys.


sounds like hilliman will get reps before outlow
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Re: Weekly Updated Depth Chart 2014-15

Postby DavidGordonsFoot on Tue Aug 26, 2014 7:24 am

claver2010 {l Wrote}:
On freshman playing time in the season-opener:

In the game you'll probably see four freshmen on offense and a couple of redshirt freshman. So you'll see 4-6 players in there who have really not see much of anything on offense. And on defense, it will probably be very much the same. That's a lot. You'll probably see anywhere form 6-10 freshmen during the course of the game. A guy like Matt Milano, who played a handful of snaps last year, you're going to see him a lot. Gutapel (BC sophomore DT, Truman Gutapel) who only played a handful of snaps last year - you'll see him a ton. Thaddius Smith, Gabe McClary, Jon Hilliman, Kamrin Moore, John Johnson, you'll see all those guys.


sounds like hilliman will get reps before outlow

This suprised me given how much practice Hilliman missed. Hopefully this means Hilliman is that good.

Have to think these are the freshmen, r-freshmen and sophomores who had the best camp. I'm looking forward to watching these guys Saturday.
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Re: Weekly Updated Depth Chart 2014-15

Postby twballgame9 on Tue Aug 26, 2014 8:33 am

I said 10-12 frosh will play, and I think that's about accurate.

I do not agree that Daniels got magically faster last season. He's a box score MVP
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Re: Weekly Updated Depth Chart 2014-15

Postby DomingoOrtiz on Tue Aug 26, 2014 8:42 am

twballgame9 {l Wrote}:I do not agree that Daniels got magically faster last season. He's a box score MVP



But he did improve. He was terrible against Nova.
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Re: Weekly Updated Depth Chart 2014-15

Postby twballgame9 on Tue Aug 26, 2014 8:46 am

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twballgame9 {l Wrote}:I do not agree that Daniels got magically faster last season. He's a box score MVP



But he did improve. He was terrible against Nova.


My only point is that I saw him as a starter by default last season - and his tackle numbers are a byproduct of the defense. He's bad in coverage and it doesn't surprise me at all that they would be looking for someone else to step up.

Regardless, he's going to see a lot of snaps anyway.
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Re: Weekly Updated Depth Chart 2014-15

Postby BCSUPERFAN22 on Tue Aug 26, 2014 8:57 am

I went through the roster quickly yesterday and noticed a few new names that I hadnt seen before (one of which was on the 2 deep). The three names I noticed were Seyi Adebayo (listed as backup DE from Columbia), Jack Bramswig (6'5 220 lb receiver from Manhattanville and former BBall player with no college fball experience ) and Frank Radici ( 6'1 225lb LB from Amherst/Bosco).

I wonder if this is going to be a way to plug roster spots going forward, taking guys from smaller schools in the area. Abedayo and Bramswig are both listed as graduate students and Radici is listed as a junior. Not a long term scholarship commitment and getting guys with in game experience (albeit at a smaller level). I am definitely in favor of this practice rather than pissing scholarships away for 4 years like Spaz did.
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Re: Weekly Updated Depth Chart 2014-15

Postby rktbrkr on Tue Aug 26, 2014 9:47 am

The Ivy League has some talent but no spring practice etc. DE is a pretty instinctive position, if he has the motor he could see some playing time.

The kid from Toughchester had a good college BB career and was a good FB player in small school setting, he probably has good hands just needs to adjust to being hit, the whole receiver situation is a jump ball, he might see some playing time too. Who was the last big receiver BC had with good hands?

Most graduate programs are more than 1 year long, are these post grad student athletes limited to only 1 year - regardless of the level they played at prior to BC or the number of years they played intercollegiate sports?

PS I apologize for saying Stamford when I mean Stanford, it must have been a senior moment
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Re: Weekly Updated Depth Chart 2014-15

Postby 31southst on Tue Aug 26, 2014 10:27 am

rktbrkr {l Wrote}:Most graduate programs are more than 1 year long, are these post grad student athletes limited to only 1 year - regardless of the level they played at prior to BC or the number of years they played intercollegiate sports?


No, it depends on how much eligibility they have remaining. For example, Jacob Coker graduated from FSU in 3 years so he has 2 years to play at Bama.
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Re: Weekly Updated Depth Chart 2014-15

Postby capecod13 on Tue Aug 26, 2014 10:41 am

31southst {l Wrote}:
rktbrkr {l Wrote}:Most graduate programs are more than 1 year long, are these post grad student athletes limited to only 1 year - regardless of the level they played at prior to BC or the number of years they played intercollegiate sports?


No, it depends on how much eligibility they have remaining. For example, Jacob Coker graduated from FSU in 3 years so he has 2 years to play at Bama.



Same goes for the TT kid who is now starting at VT.
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