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QB Drama at Clemson

Postby BCdee on Mon Apr 14, 2014 3:35 pm

On Saturday, Clemson had their spring game. The top two QBs fighting for the job this Fall are Cole Stoudt (same high school as James Walsh) and Chad Kelly (Jim Kelly's nephew). Well, at the spring game, Chad Kelly didn't play well and supposedly got in a verbal altercation with the coaches. Now, another incident has happened and Clemson is going to put a press release out shortly. He must be gone.
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Re: QB Drama at Clemson

Postby BCdee on Mon Apr 14, 2014 3:39 pm

Yep, he's been released from the team. Guess #1 rated QB recruit in the nation this year, Deshaun Watson, probably won't redshirt. It's crazy because a lot of people thought Kelly would be the starter this year....he was a 4 start dual-threat QB.
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Re: QB Drama at Clemson

Postby BCSUPERFAN22 on Mon Apr 14, 2014 3:45 pm

BCdee {l Wrote}:Yep, he's been released from the team. Guess #1 rated QB recruit in the nation this year, Deshaun Watson, probably won't redshirt. It's crazy because a lot of people thought Kelly would be the starter this year....he was a 4 start dual-threat QB.


Said he was escorted off the field by police at practice because of something that happened over the weekend.
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Re: QB Drama at Clemson

Postby gallopingghost on Mon Apr 14, 2014 4:26 pm

BCSUPERFAN22 {l Wrote}:
BCdee {l Wrote}:Yep, he's been released from the team. Guess #1 rated QB recruit in the nation this year, Deshaun Watson, probably won't redshirt. It's crazy because a lot of people thought Kelly would be the starter this year....he was a 4 start dual-threat QB.


Said he was escorted off the field by police at practice because of something that happened over the weekend.


Let me take a wild guess. He had a Jameis Winston moment. I am shocked.
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Re: QB Drama at Clemson

Postby BCdee on Mon Apr 14, 2014 4:44 pm

CLEMSON, S.C. - Clemson Head Football Coach Dabo Swinney announced Monday that he has dismissed quarterback Chad Kelly from the school's football team.
"I have dismissed Chad Kelly for conduct detrimental to our program," said Swinney. "He has had a pattern of behavior that is not consistent with the values of our program. I hope he will mature and grow from this and become the man and player I know he can be. I wish him nothing but the best in the future academically and athletically."

Kelly red-shirted the 2012 season, then suffered a torn ACL in the 2013 Spring Game. But, he came back to play by the September 7 S.C. State game. He played in five games overall in 2013 and was 10-17 passing for 58 yards. He added 16 rushes for 117 yards and a touchdown, including 56 yards on seven rushes at Virginia.

The native of Niagara Falls, N.Y. was in a three-way competition at quarterback this spring along with senior Cole Stoudt and freshman Deshaun Watson. Kelly completed 10-18 passes for 113 yards, but threw a pair of interceptions in the April 12 Spring Game.

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Seniors - Cole Stoudt
Freshmen - Deshaun Watson, Nick Schuessler (Walk-On)
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Re: QB Drama at Clemson

Postby twballgame9 on Mon Apr 14, 2014 4:47 pm

Watson broke his collarbone or something, so he is not the likely answer.
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Re: QB Drama at Clemson

Postby BCdee on Mon Apr 14, 2014 5:21 pm

twballgame9 {l Wrote}:Watson broke his collarbone or something, so he is not the likely answer.


Yes, I definitely would bank on senior Stoudt as the starter. He's pretty good.
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Re: QB Drama at Clemson

Postby Reverend Mike on Mon Apr 14, 2014 10:34 pm

I love the fact that he got into a big argument with the coaches about going for it on fourth down...IN THE SPRING GAME. :shake
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Postby b0mberMan on Tue Apr 15, 2014 6:52 pm

Reverend Mike {l Wrote}:I love the fact that he got into a big argument with the coaches about going for it on fourth down...IN THE SPRING GAME. :shake

Seriously. Kid's a gamer. Let's get him to BC
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Re: QB Drama at Clemson

Postby TobaccoRoadEagle on Tue Apr 15, 2014 7:02 pm

b0mberMan {l Wrote}:
Reverend Mike {l Wrote}:I love the fact that he got into a big argument with the coaches about going for it on fourth down...IN THE SPRING GAME. :shake

Seriously. Kid's a gamer. Let's get him to BC

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Re: QB Drama at Clemson

Postby BCdee on Tue Apr 15, 2014 7:16 pm

His nickname (that I believe he gave himself) is Swag. :chewbanka
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Re: QB Drama at Clemson

Postby TobaccoRoadEagle on Tue Apr 15, 2014 7:20 pm

BCdee {l Wrote}:His nickname (that I believe he gave himself) is Swag. :chewbanka

dee - i'll be in south carolina at the end of this week. just so i'm clear and can try to seem like less of an outsider... is "sw" ALWAYS pronounced as an "f" sound down there?

i only ask because i'd hate to not succeed in getting my point across in calling one of the local racists a swuckswace if the need arises

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Re: QB Drama at Clemson

Postby angrychicken on Tue Apr 15, 2014 7:22 pm

BCdee {l Wrote}:His nickname (that I believe he gave himself) is Swag. :chewbanka

(rhymes with TRE)
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Re: QB Drama at Clemson

Postby BCdee on Tue Apr 15, 2014 7:26 pm

TobaccoRoadEagle {l Wrote}:
BCdee {l Wrote}:His nickname (that I believe he gave himself) is Swag. :chewbanka

dee - i'll be in south carolina at the end of this week. just so i'm clear and can try to seem like less of an outsider... is "sw" ALWAYS pronounced as an "f" sound down there?

i only ask because i'd hate to not succeed in getting my point across in calling one of the local racists a swuckswace if the need arises

thanks in advance


I don't know, but sometimes I can't understand what the heck is coming out of people's mouths. It's like another language.

What part of SC are you visiting?
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Re: QB Drama at Clemson

Postby eaglesfan06 on Tue Apr 15, 2014 9:28 pm

But is he fast...?
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Re: QB Drama at Clemson

Postby NotoriousOrange on Wed Apr 16, 2014 9:24 am

BCdee {l Wrote}:His nickname (that I believe he gave himself) is Swag. :chewbanka


Please let him know that Swag is already taken, as it is my nickname. But if he comes, he can have Swag Jr. or Swag II (his option)
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Re: QB Drama at Clemson

Postby DavidGordonsFoot on Wed Apr 16, 2014 9:50 am

BCdee {l Wrote}:What part of SC are you visiting?


The stripmalliest part.
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Re: QB Drama at Clemson

Postby TobaccoRoadEagle on Wed Apr 16, 2014 11:14 am

DavidGordonsFoot {l Wrote}:
BCdee {l Wrote}:What part of SC are you visiting?


The stripmalliest part.

nope - we're bypassing myrtle for hilton head instead. it's stripmallie, but much less so than its sister to the north
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Re: QB Drama at Clemson

Postby BCdee on Wed Apr 16, 2014 1:44 pm

TobaccoRoadEagle {l Wrote}:
DavidGordonsFoot {l Wrote}:
BCdee {l Wrote}:What part of SC are you visiting?


The stripmalliest part.

nope - we're bypassing myrtle for hilton head instead. it's stripmallie, but much less so than its sister to the north


Have a great time! We are heading to Naples tomorrow. :elephant
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Re: QB Drama at Clemson

Postby BCdee on Wed Apr 16, 2014 2:21 pm

And like I’ve been saying, we control our own destiny. And those men looked me in my eye and they said, ‘We got this, Jameis.’ And I said … we said … I said, ‘Are you strong?’ They said, ‘I’m strong if you strong.’ I said, ‘We strong, then.’” -Jameis Winston

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Famous Jameis in the news again....

http://nypost.com/2014/04/16/report-stokes-worst-fears-about-cops-in-jameis-winston-case/

Jameis Winston’s legal problems may be in the past, but the sordid details of his alleged sexual assault aren’t going away.

A bombshell New York Times report investigates the Tallahassee Police Department’s handling of the case involving the Heisman Trophy winner, and finds there were several fundamental flaws. The paper also reports a second woman, while not accusing Winston of rape, had a troubling sexual encounter with the star quarterback.

The report, which included interviews with the police department, the school, prosecutor Willie Meggs and attorneys for both Winston and the accuser, among others, posits the police failed to follow obvious leads that would have more rapidly identified Winston as well as witnesses, one of whom videotaped part of the sexual encounter. Even after Winston was identified by the accuser, cops didn’t attempt to interview him for close to two weeks and failed to obtain his DNA.

Police were first informed Dec. 7, 2012, of the alleged sexual assault early that morning off campus following a night out at the bar Potbelly’s. Winston was identified as a suspect Jan. 10, 2013, after the accuser heard his name called in a class, according to the report. Investigators didn’t seek him out until Jan. 23, 13 days later, and then via a phone call. In the story, Meggs expresses concerns over the delay and the form of communication.

“He says, ‘I have baseball practice, I’ll get with you later,’ ” Meggs said. In the interim, Winston hired a lawyer who advised him not to talk.

The case became national news on Nov. 13, 2013. On Dec. 5, in a press conference marred by frequent laughter, Meggs announced there wasn’t sufficient evidence to prosecute.

A major part of the Times report revolves around lead detective Scott Angulo and the department’s decision to close the case on Feb. 11, 2013. It finds police demonstrated limited follow-up on leads, such as acquiring security video from Potbelly’s or identifying the taxi driver who drove Winston and the accuser (and two other football players) on the night of the incident.

Cops also failed to obtain taxi records promptly following the rape accusation. The accuser has recalled someone in the car swiping a Florida State student ID card to obtain a discount.

David Cornwell, one of Winston’s lawyers, said: “We don’t need an investigation, thorough or otherwise, to know that Jameis did not sexually assault this young lady.”

Then there is the issue of the second woman.

A month before the sexual assault accusation went public, Florida State learned a second woman had sought counseling following a sexual encounter with Winston, according to Meggs’ office. She didn’t classify it as rape; she did not say “no.”


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Yet, it “was of such a nature that she felt violated or felt that she needed to seek some type of counseling for her emotions about the experience,” according to Georgia Cappleman, the chief assistant state attorney, who said she had spoken with an advocate who had counseled the woman but not with the woman directly.

Cappleman said the incident “sheds some light on the way Mr. Winston operates” and on what may be “a recurring problem rather than some type of misunderstanding that occurred in an isolated situation.”

Cornwell called those comments “out of bounds.”
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Re: QB Drama at Clemson

Postby eaglesfan06 on Wed Apr 16, 2014 2:43 pm

Not news. Everyone knew he raped her already unfortunately.
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Re: QB Drama at Clemson

Postby DavidGordonsFoot on Wed Apr 16, 2014 2:45 pm

BCdee {l Wrote}:And like I’ve been saying, we control our own destiny. And those men looked me in my eye and they said, ‘We got this, Jameis.’ And I said … we said … I said, ‘Are you strong?’ They said, ‘I’m strong if you strong.’ I said, ‘We strong, then.’” -Jameis Winston


Is this from his unintelligible Heisman acceptance speech?
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Re: QB Drama at Clemson

Postby BCdee on Wed Apr 16, 2014 3:37 pm

DavidGordonsFoot {l Wrote}:
BCdee {l Wrote}:And like I’ve been saying, we control our own destiny. And those men looked me in my eye and they said, ‘We got this, Jameis.’ And I said … we said … I said, ‘Are you strong?’ They said, ‘I’m strong if you strong.’ I said, ‘We strong, then.’” -Jameis Winston


Is this from his unintelligible Heisman acceptance speech?


Post National Championship game.
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Re: QB Drama at Clemson

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Re: QB Drama at Clemson

Postby MF73-Eleazar on Wed Apr 16, 2014 10:02 pm

Fuck religion and religious people.
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Re: QB Drama at Clemson

Postby PhillyandBCEagles on Thu Apr 17, 2014 8:17 am

Wait, she's claiming she recognized Winston after seeing him in class? Sounds like a pretty clear cut case of mistake identity. Case desmithed
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Re: QB Drama at Clemson

Postby PhillyandBCEagles on Thu Apr 17, 2014 8:25 am

MF73-Eleazar {l Wrote}:Fuck religion and religious people.


Fundamentalist atheists are as bad as fundamentalist Christians, fundamentalist Jews, fundamentalist Hindus, etc. I won't lump those groups in with fundamentalist Muslims because none of them generally still go around murdering people. But the atheist nutjobs are just as bad as the non-Muslim religious nutjobs. The jackasses who try to get crosses and Stars of David removed from cemeteries and veterans memorials on public land, for instance, are just as bad as the WBC IMO.
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Re: QB Drama at Clemson

Postby claver2010 on Thu Apr 17, 2014 8:25 am

think the bigger news is that he raped a 2nd woman
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Re: QB Drama at Clemson

Postby DavidGordonsFoot on Thu Apr 17, 2014 8:31 am

DuchesneEast {l Wrote}:http://collegefootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2014/04/15/religious-freedom-group-says-clemson-football-is-too-religious/

I hate atheists who speak more about religion than religious people. STFU


Dabo Swinney is a lot of things, but he knows who butters his bread. I guarantee you player attendance at bible study/prayer group has zero bearing on the depth chart.
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Re: QB Drama at Clemson

Postby angrychicken on Thu Apr 17, 2014 8:34 am

Serious question: Can jewish players play against Arkansas?
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