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[twballgame9]

FSU, while they aren't as good as last year, should be the unanimous #1 team in every poll. It really is ridiculous.

Why, just because they're undefeated?

If someone thinks that Alabama or Oregon would beat FSU in a head to head matchup, why shouldn't Alabama or Oregon be ranked ahead of FSU on their ballot?

What if I think 9-3 Ole Miss would beat Alabama in a head to head match up? Should they be #1? Should Arizona be #1 because I think they would beat Oregon head to head?

[talon]

FSU, while they aren't as good as last year, should be the unanimous #1 team in every poll. It really is ridiculous.

Why, just because they're undefeated?

If someone thinks that Alabama or Oregon would beat FSU in a head to head matchup, why shouldn't Alabama or Oregon be ranked ahead of FSU on their ballot?

What if I think 9-3 Ole Miss would beat Alabama in a head to head match up? Should they be #1? Should Arizona be #1 because I think they would beat Oregon head to head?

If you have a vote, vote the team you think would beat all the other teams in the country #1. How is this difficult to understand?

[TobaccoRoadEagle]

FSU, while they aren't as good as last year, should be the unanimous #1 team in every poll. It really is ridiculous.

Why, just because they're undefeated?

If someone thinks that Alabama or Oregon would beat FSU in a head to head matchup, why shouldn't Alabama or Oregon be ranked ahead of FSU on their ballot?

What if I think 9-3 Ole Miss would beat Alabama in a head to head match up? Should they be #1? Should Arizona be #1 because I think they would beat Oregon head to head?

If you have a vote, vote the team you think would beat all the other teams in the country #1. How is this difficult to understand?

what if there is no "superteam" as you are surmising and even the #1 team would/could lose to another team... however that giant killer matches up poorly with 3 - 5 other teams and therefore wouldn't beat everyone - only the team that would beat the most other teams. By the transitive property does that make the team that matches up well against the superteam a #1 vote or does it not because there are more teams that can beat the giant killer than can beat the superteam?

EDIT - i am not scrush but i believe (s)he could do a better job explaining this

[twballgame9]

FSU, while they aren't as good as last year, should be the unanimous #1 team in every poll. It really is ridiculous.

Why, just because they're undefeated?

If someone thinks that Alabama or Oregon would beat FSU in a head to head matchup, why shouldn't Alabama or Oregon be ranked ahead of FSU on their ballot?

What if I think 9-3 Ole Miss would beat Alabama in a head to head match up? Should they be #1? Should Arizona be #1 because I think they would beat Oregon head to head?

If you have a vote, vote the team you think would beat all the other teams in the country #1. How is this difficult to understand?

I vote for the team that has actually done this.

[twballgame9]

FSU, while they aren't as good as last year, should be the unanimous #1 team in every poll. It really is ridiculous.

Why, just because they're undefeated?

If someone thinks that Alabama or Oregon would beat FSU in a head to head matchup, why shouldn't Alabama or Oregon be ranked ahead of FSU on their ballot?

What if I think 9-3 Ole Miss would beat Alabama in a head to head match up? Should they be #1? Should Arizona be #1 because I think they would beat Oregon head to head?

If you have a vote, vote the team you think would beat all the other teams in the country #1. How is this difficult to understand?

I vote for the team that has actually done this.

Especially since I am positive that teams with one loss cannot beat all of the other teams in the country.

[talon]

FSU, while they aren't as good as last year, should be the unanimous #1 team in every poll. It really is ridiculous.

Why, just because they're undefeated?

If someone thinks that Alabama or Oregon would beat FSU in a head to head matchup, why shouldn't Alabama or Oregon be ranked ahead of FSU on their ballot?

What if I think 9-3 Ole Miss would beat Alabama in a head to head match up? Should they be #1? Should Arizona be #1 because I think they would beat Oregon head to head?

If you have a vote, vote the team you think would beat all the other teams in the country #1. How is this difficult to understand?

I vote for the team that has actually done this.

So, prior to last week's Eastern Kentucky game, where would you have ranked Marshall?

[twballgame9]

FSU, while they aren't as good as last year, should be the unanimous #1 team in every poll. It really is ridiculous.

Why, just because they're undefeated?

If someone thinks that Alabama or Oregon would beat FSU in a head to head matchup, why shouldn't Alabama or Oregon be ranked ahead of FSU on their ballot?

What if I think 9-3 Ole Miss would beat Alabama in a head to head match up? Should they be #1? Should Arizona be #1 because I think they would beat Oregon head to head?

If you have a vote, vote the team you think would beat all the other teams in the country #1. How is this difficult to understand?

I vote for the team that has actually done this.

So, prior to last week's Eastern Kentucky game, where would you have ranked Marshall?

I wouldn't have noticed them. Your logic box sucks.

[talon]

I wouldn't have noticed them. Your logic box sucks.

So your "undefeated teams MUST be ranked above all other 1 loss teams NO EXCEPTIONS" rule has some exceptions.

got it.

[twballgame9]

I wouldn't have noticed them. Your logic box sucks.

So your "undefeated teams MUST be ranked above all other 1 loss teams NO EXCEPTIONS" rule has some exceptions.

got it.

I don't have a rule. Your rule is just dumb. I don't think Alabama or Oregon can beat every team in the country, because neither will. Hence, and therefore, even your rule leaves only FSU.

[talon]

I wouldn't have noticed them. Your logic box sucks.

So your "undefeated teams MUST be ranked above all other 1 loss teams NO EXCEPTIONS" rule has some exceptions.

got it.

I don't have a rule. Your rule is just dumb. I don't think Alabama or Oregon can beat every team in the country, because neither will. Hence, and therefore, even your rule leaves only FSU.

Well, I think Oregon is the best team in the country. I think they'll beat Arizona in the rematch and I think they could beat FSU and Alabama. But according to you, I'd be an idiot if I voted for the team that I think is the best team in the country #1.

[twballgame9]

I wouldn't have noticed them. Your logic box sucks.

So your "undefeated teams MUST be ranked above all other 1 loss teams NO EXCEPTIONS" rule has some exceptions.

got it.

I don't have a rule. Your rule is just dumb. I don't think Alabama or Oregon can beat every team in the country, because neither will. Hence, and therefore, even your rule leaves only FSU.

Well, I think Oregon is the best team in the country. I think they'll beat Arizona in the rematch and I think they could beat FSU and Alabama. But according to you, I'd be an idiot if I voted for the team that I think is the best team in the country #1.

My reasons for thinking you are an idiot are not so limited.

[twballgame9]

In all seriousness, your belief about Alabama or Oregon beating FSU is largely based on media hype for one conference that is top heavy and another that flat out sucks and a third that gets no credit for being as good as the other two.

Fact is that I think Alabama may be the best team right now. But right now doesn't excuse not being the best team against a mediocre Ole Miss squad in early October. Just like BC playing very well in the second half of the season with a tougher schedule and probably being a top 25 team right now doesn't excuse shitty losses to Pitt and CSU.

[talon]

In all seriousness, your belief about Alabama or Oregon beating FSU is largely based on media hype for one conference that is top heavy and another that flat out sucks and a third that gets no credit for being as good as the other two.

Fact is that I think Alabama may be the best team right now. But right now doesn't excuse not being the best team against a mediocre Ole Miss squad in early October. Just like BC playing very well in the second half of the season with a tougher schedule and probably being a top 25 team right now doesn't excuse shitty losses to Pitt and CSU.

Who wins the title this year?

[twballgame9]

In all seriousness, your belief about Alabama or Oregon beating FSU is largely based on media hype for one conference that is top heavy and another that flat out sucks and a third that gets no credit for being as good as the other two.

Fact is that I think Alabama may be the best team right now. But right now doesn't excuse not being the best team against a mediocre Ole Miss squad in early October. Just like BC playing very well in the second half of the season with a tougher schedule and probably being a top 25 team right now doesn't excuse shitty losses to Pitt and CSU.

Who wins the title this year?

Don't know, games haven't been played yet. But FSU is the #1 team in the country right now.

[tallsy]

I'm hoping Boise loses this weekend so Memphis gets a New Year's Day bowl.

[talon]

Don't know, games haven't been played yet. But FSU is the #1 team in the country right now.

Who do you think wins the title this year?

[eaglesfan06]

Don't know, games haven't been played yet. But FSU is the #1 team in the country right now.

Who do you think wins the title this year?

Florida St.

[PhillyandBCEagles]

FSU deserves to stay #1 until someone beats them. Generally speaking the pecking order should go 1) undefeated P5 teams, 2) 1-loss P5 teams, 3) undefeated midmajors, 4) everyone else. You can debate teams' relative merits within each category but I have a tough time jumping a team from one category above a team in a higher one, at least past the midpoint of the season or so. That said while I do think they're getting hosed out of the #1 seed I don't see any real difference between #2 and #3 in this format given that all the games are at neutral sites and it's not hockey or baseball where the home team has an actual advantage built into the rules.

[hansen]

FSU deserves to stay #1 until someone beats them. Generally speaking the pecking order should go 1) undefeated P5 teams, 2) 1-loss P5 teams, 3) undefeated midmajors, 4) everyone else.

This

P.s. I don't ever recall seeing a 1 loss P5 team ever being ranked ahead of a undefeated team this late in the season. The bias of the voters this year against FSU is unbelievable.

[talon]

FSU deserves to stay #1 until someone beats them.

FSU deserves to stay #1 as long as a majority of voters believe they're the best team in the country.

[TobaccoRoadEagle]

FSU deserves to stay #1 until someone beats them.

FSU deserves to stay #1 until a school gets a bigger hype machine to sway the media and voters in their favor to assist in generating more votes based on "feelings" and "strength."

fixed

[twballgame9]

talon has bought into the PAC10/SEC media bullshit hook line and sinker.

FSU may not win the national title, but they are #1 right fucking now.

[talon]

FSU may not win the national title, but they are #1 right fucking now.

that's your opinion.

http://collegefootball.ap.org/poll
http://sportspolls.usatoday.com/ncaa/fo ... ches-poll/

I see FSU is #2 in both the coaches poll and the AP poll. Where do you see them ranked #1?

[twballgame9]

FSU may not win the national title, but they are #1 right fucking now.

that's your opinion.

http://collegefootball.ap.org/poll
http://sportspolls.usatoday.com/ncaa/fo ... ches-poll/

I see FSU is #2 in both the coaches poll and the AP poll. Where do you see them ranked #1?

Reality.

[twballgame9]

FSU may not win the national title, but they are #1 right fucking now.

that's your opinion.

http://collegefootball.ap.org/poll
http://sportspolls.usatoday.com/ncaa/fo ... ches-poll/

I see FSU is #2 in both the coaches poll and the AP poll. Where do you see them ranked #1?

Reality.

Was the premise of this whole retarded and circular mental jerkoff session just to get back to citing the polls, or did you really want to know what people thought about who is #1?

[commavegarage]

FSU may not win the national title, but they are #1 right fucking now.

that's your opinion.

http://collegefootball.ap.org/poll
http://sportspolls.usatoday.com/ncaa/fo ... ches-poll/

I see FSU is #2 in both the coaches poll and the AP poll. Where do you see them ranked #1?

Reality.

Was the premise of this whole retarded and circular mental jerkoff session just to get back to citing the polls, or did you really want to know what people thought about who is #1?

everything he does is for the former

[talon]

FSU may not win the national title, but they are #1 right fucking now.

that's your opinion.

http://collegefootball.ap.org/poll
http://sportspolls.usatoday.com/ncaa/fo ... ches-poll/

I see FSU is #2 in both the coaches poll and the AP poll. Where do you see them ranked #1?

Reality.

Was the premise of this whole retarded and circular mental jerkoff session just to get back to citing the polls, or did you really want to know what people thought about who is #1?

I think ranking teams is subjective.

You seem to think that it's an easy, clear cut objective process.

The fact that the existing polls don't like up with they way you think they should proves that they're not as objective as you think they should be.

[twballgame9]

FSU may not win the national title, but they are #1 right fucking now.

that's your opinion.

http://collegefootball.ap.org/poll
http://sportspolls.usatoday.com/ncaa/fo ... ches-poll/

I see FSU is #2 in both the coaches poll and the AP poll. Where do you see them ranked #1?

Reality.

Was the premise of this whole retarded and circular mental jerkoff session just to get back to citing the polls, or did you really want to know what people thought about who is #1?

I think ranking teams is subjective.

You seem to think that it's an easy, clear cut objective process.

The fact that the existing polls don't like up with they way you think they should proves that they're not as objective as you think they should be.

I think nothing of the sort. I think that Alabama and Oregon cannot, by definition, beat every team in the country, whereas FSU is still capable of that feat. So I simply applied your test to declare FSU #1, causing you to engage in a bunch of circular nonsense that you have convinced yourself is like the shortbus Socratic Method.

[Reverend Mike]

FSU may not win the national title, but they are #1 right fucking now.

that's your opinion.

http://collegefootball.ap.org/poll
http://sportspolls.usatoday.com/ncaa/fo ... ches-poll/

I see FSU is #2 in both the coaches poll and the AP poll. Where do you see them ranked #1?

Reality.

Was the premise of this whole retarded and circular mental jerkoff session just to get back to citing the polls, or did you really want to know what people thought about who is #1?

I think ranking teams is subjective.

You seem to think that it's an easy, clear cut objective process.

The fact that the existing polls don't like up with they way you think they should proves that they're not as objective as you think they should be.

I think nothing of the sort. I think that Alabama and Oregon cannot, by definition, beat every team in the country, whereas FSU is still capable of that feat. So I simply applied your test to declare FSU #1, causing you to engage in a bunch of circular nonsense that you have convinced yourself is like the shortbus Socratic Method.

Talon's logic box only has 3 sides. "The fact that you don't agree that the earth is flat proves that the flatness or roundness of the earth is subjective."

[talon]

I think nothing of the sort. I think that Alabama and Oregon cannot, by definition, beat every team in the country, whereas FSU is still capable of that feat. So I simply applied your test to declare FSU #1, causing you to engage in a bunch of circular nonsense that you have convinced yourself is like the shortbus Socratic Method.

And a week ago, Marshall was the only other team in the country still capable of that feat, but they weren't ranked #2. Could that because people consider more than just a team's record when submitting their rankings?