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Re: Other game thread

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Re: Other game thread

Postby eaglesfan06 on Sun Dec 07, 2014 12:47 pm

1. Alabama
2. Oregon
3. FSU
4. Ohio St.

Really shows how important Conference Titles are.

Anyone, think this affects Notre Dame a lot? Basically Notre Dame needs to be absolutely perfect to ever make the playoff now and that could change the whole conversation.
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Re: Other game thread

Postby twballgame9 on Sun Dec 07, 2014 12:49 pm

I think OOC scheduling mattered the most. Second, I agree opportunity to beat a good team in a championship late.
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Re: Other game thread

Postby eepstein0 on Sun Dec 07, 2014 12:50 pm

OSU jumping TCU makes 0 sense at all
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Re: Other game thread

Postby twballgame9 on Sun Dec 07, 2014 12:52 pm

eepstein0 {l Wrote}:OSU jumping TCU makes 0 sense at all


Disagree. These aren't polls, and thank god. No more holding serve BS
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Re: Other game thread

Postby eaglesfan06 on Sun Dec 07, 2014 12:53 pm

eepstein0 {l Wrote}:OSU jumping TCU makes 0 sense at all


Why?

TCU beat no one of note. Best win is a #15 ranked Kansas State team at home. No other top 25 wins. Didn't win conference title.

OSU had 3 Top 25 wins, a blow out in the conference title game and one bad game very early in the season.

OSU had easily the better resume IMO.
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Re: Other game thread

Postby MilitantEagle on Sun Dec 07, 2014 12:54 pm

OSU has more fans than Baylor and TCU. If OSU had been left out, the amount of death threats would have been off the charts. I hope BAMA destroys them.
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Re: Other game thread

Postby twballgame9 on Sun Dec 07, 2014 12:54 pm

TCU being third in the first place was the mistake. This is not the mistake.
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Re: Other game thread

Postby eepstein0 on Sun Dec 07, 2014 12:56 pm

eaglesfan06 {l Wrote}:
eepstein0 {l Wrote}:OSU jumping TCU makes 0 sense at all


Why?

TCU beat no one of note. Best win is a #15 ranked Kansas State team at home. No other top 25 wins. Didn't win conference title.

OSU had 3 Top 25 wins, a blow out in the conference title game and one bad game very early in the season.

OSU had easily the better resume IMO.


OSU lost to they god awful VT team. TCU lost to Baylor on the road.
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Re: Other game thread

Postby dtwalrus on Sun Dec 07, 2014 12:56 pm

twballgame9 {l Wrote}:I think OOC scheduling mattered the most. Second, I agree opportunity to beat a good team in a championship late.


Listening to the committee chair here I'd say there's a huge emphasis on conference championships and the 13th game, while strength of schedule was, in his own words, "part of it."

I wouldn't be at all surprised to see Big12 expansions, and some serious ND soul searching.
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Re: Other game thread

Postby eaglesfan06 on Sun Dec 07, 2014 12:57 pm

Basically made it clear that the 13th game was hugely important.
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Re: Other game thread

Postby commavegarage on Sun Dec 07, 2014 12:57 pm

tcu should've never been ahead of baylor. debate should've always been baylor vs. osu


this is also telling the big 12 to get a conference championship (and therefore expand) asap
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Re: Other game thread

Postby eepstein0 on Sun Dec 07, 2014 12:57 pm

twballgame9 {l Wrote}:TCU being third in the first place was the mistake. This is not the mistake.


This might be my ultimate problem with it. How did TCU go from 3 to 6?
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Re: Other game thread

Postby twballgame9 on Sun Dec 07, 2014 12:58 pm

eepstein0 {l Wrote}:
eaglesfan06 {l Wrote}:
eepstein0 {l Wrote}:OSU jumping TCU makes 0 sense at all


Why?

TCU beat no one of note. Best win is a #15 ranked Kansas State team at home. No other top 25 wins. Didn't win conference title.

OSU had 3 Top 25 wins, a blow out in the conference title game and one bad game very early in the season.

OSU had easily the better resume IMO.


OSU lost to they god awful VT team. TCU lost to Baylor on the road.


OSU beat 9 bowl eligible teams and destroyed a team yesterday that was better than anyone on TCU's schedule.
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Re: Other game thread

Postby eepstein0 on Sun Dec 07, 2014 12:58 pm

dtwalrus {l Wrote}:
twballgame9 {l Wrote}:I think OOC scheduling mattered the most. Second, I agree opportunity to beat a good team in a championship late.


Listening to the committee chair here I'd say there's a huge emphasis on conference championships and the 13th game, while strength of schedule was, in his own words, "part of it."

I wouldn't be at all surprised to see Big12 expansions, and some serious ND soul searching.


OSU played no one OOC except for VT
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Re: Other game thread

Postby eepstein0 on Sun Dec 07, 2014 12:58 pm

twballgame9 {l Wrote}:
eepstein0 {l Wrote}:
eaglesfan06 {l Wrote}:
eepstein0 {l Wrote}:OSU jumping TCU makes 0 sense at all


Why?

TCU beat no one of note. Best win is a #15 ranked Kansas State team at home. No other top 25 wins. Didn't win conference title.

OSU had 3 Top 25 wins, a blow out in the conference title game and one bad game very early in the season.

OSU had easily the better resume IMO.


OSU lost to they god awful VT team. TCU lost to Baylor on the road.


OSU beat 9 bowl eligible teams and destroyed a team yesterday that was better than anyone on TCU's schedule.


That Wisconsin team was embarassing. As is the rest of the Big 10
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Re: Other game thread

Postby twballgame9 on Sun Dec 07, 2014 12:58 pm

eepstein0 {l Wrote}:
twballgame9 {l Wrote}:TCU being third in the first place was the mistake. This is not the mistake.


This might be my ultimate problem with it. How did TCU go from 3 to 6?


Because it is not a poll, Joey Galloway.
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Re: Other game thread

Postby twballgame9 on Sun Dec 07, 2014 12:59 pm

eepstein0 {l Wrote}:
twballgame9 {l Wrote}:
eepstein0 {l Wrote}:
eaglesfan06 {l Wrote}:
eepstein0 {l Wrote}:OSU jumping TCU makes 0 sense at all


Why?

TCU beat no one of note. Best win is a #15 ranked Kansas State team at home. No other top 25 wins. Didn't win conference title.

OSU had 3 Top 25 wins, a blow out in the conference title game and one bad game very early in the season.

OSU had easily the better resume IMO.


OSU lost to they god awful VT team. TCU lost to Baylor on the road.


OSU beat 9 bowl eligible teams and destroyed a team yesterday that was better than anyone on TCU's schedule.


That Wisconsin team was embarassing. As is the rest of the Big 10


Stop. The Big12 sucks too. TCU beat one good team.
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Re: Other game thread

Postby DomingoOrtiz on Sun Dec 07, 2014 1:01 pm

eaglesfan06 {l Wrote}:1. Alabama
2. Oregon
3. FSU
4. Ohio St.

Really shows how important Conference Titles are.

Anyone, think this affects Notre Dame a lot? Basically Notre Dame needs to be absolutely perfect to ever make the playoff now and that could change the whole conversation.



No, look at the fact that 0.0hio St got in over Baylor. This is about $$$
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Re: Other game thread

Postby eepstein0 on Sun Dec 07, 2014 1:01 pm

twballgame9 {l Wrote}:
eepstein0 {l Wrote}:
twballgame9 {l Wrote}:
eepstein0 {l Wrote}:
eaglesfan06 {l Wrote}:
eepstein0 {l Wrote}:OSU jumping TCU makes 0 sense at all


Why?

TCU beat no one of note. Best win is a #15 ranked Kansas State team at home. No other top 25 wins. Didn't win conference title.

OSU had 3 Top 25 wins, a blow out in the conference title game and one bad game very early in the season.

OSU had easily the better resume IMO.


OSU lost to they god awful VT team. TCU lost to Baylor on the road.


OSU beat 9 bowl eligible teams and destroyed a team yesterday that was better than anyone on TCU's schedule.


That Wisconsin team was embarassing. As is the rest of the Big 10


Stop. The Big12 sucks too. TCU beat one good team.


Who is the second best team in the Big 10? MSU who is living off a 3 TD loss at Oregon?

OSU looked good because they played garbage all season
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Re: Other game thread

Postby HJS on Sun Dec 07, 2014 1:01 pm

eepstein0 {l Wrote}:OSU jumping TCU makes 0 sense at all

Unfuckingbelievable. B12 was great this year. Cannot believe they aren't represented in the playoffs... especially, instead of that dumpster fire of a conference (Big Ten).

At the end of the day, B12 kinda fucked itself without a conference champs game (leaving normal people to assume it was Baylor... especially since the effing B12 commercial says that they are the ONLY conference that decides shit on the field (since they all play each other). Also... wasn't it Bowlsby who demanded the Committee favor conference champs?

Finally... whoever talked about the importance of OOC scheduling should check out that of OSU and Bama (and compare it to TCU).

Ultimately, people are going to make a much bigger deal about this because TCU just moved up to 3. If they were 4, people would have been a little more prepared. Btw... the committee putting so much emphasis on margin of victory is insane (and something the BCS specifically took out of the formula).
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Re: Other game thread

Postby eaglesfan06 on Sun Dec 07, 2014 1:03 pm

eepstein0 {l Wrote}:OSU played no one OOC except for VT



eepstein0 {l Wrote}:That Wisconsin team was embarassing. As is the rest of the Big 10


These two statements don't jive, considering TCU's calling card this whole time was "beating Minnesota" vs. Baylor and OSU's soft schedules.

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Re: Other game thread

Postby twballgame9 on Sun Dec 07, 2014 1:03 pm

Kansas State was TCU's only win. They and Baylor played no one.

Oh, OSU is in a shitty conference too. But Wisconsin is better than anyone TCU played other than Baylor.
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Re: Other game thread

Postby DavidGordonsFoot on Sun Dec 07, 2014 1:03 pm

dtwalrus {l Wrote}:I wouldn't be at all surprised to see Big12 expansions, and some serious ND soul searching.

ND will throw all their resources and clout into expanding the playoff to six or eight teams. Question is, will it be enough?

As far as Big 12 expansion, it's gotta happen. Fortunately for them, it was "only" TCU getting screwed over this year instead of UT or Oklahoma. Bad year for Yukon to go 2-10, just sayin'.
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Re: Other game thread

Postby eaglesfan06 on Sun Dec 07, 2014 1:05 pm

HJS {l Wrote}:
eepstein0 {l Wrote}:OSU jumping TCU makes 0 sense at all

Unfuckingbelievable. B12 was great this year. Cannot believe they aren't represented in the playoffs... especially, instead of that dumpster fire of a conference (Big Ten).

At the end of the day, B12 kinda fucked itself without a conference champs game (leaving normal people to assume it was Baylor... especially since the effing B12 commercial says that they are the ONLY conference that decides shit on the field (since they all play each other). Also... wasn't it Bowlsby who demanded the Committee favor conference champs?

Finally... whoever talked about the importance of OOC scheduling should check out that of OSU and Bama (and compare it to TCU).

Ultimately, people are going to make a much bigger deal about this because TCU just moved up to 3. If they were 4, people would have been a little more prepared. Btw... the committee putting so much emphasis on margin of victory is insane (and something the BCS specifically took out of the formula).


Wait are we seriously touting TCU's OOC scheduling?

You mean Samford, Minnesota (at home) and SMU is supposed to be impressive?
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Re: Other game thread

Postby eaglesfan06 on Sun Dec 07, 2014 1:09 pm

DavidGordonsFoot {l Wrote}:
dtwalrus {l Wrote}:I wouldn't be at all surprised to see Big12 expansions, and some serious ND soul searching.

ND will throw all their resources and clout into expanding the playoff to six or eight teams. Question is, will it be enough?

As far as Big 12 expansion, it's gotta happen. Fortunately for them, it was "only" TCU getting screwed over this year instead of UT or Oklahoma. Bad year for Yukon to go 2-10, just sayin'.


Good point regarding ND.

As soon as it expands to 8, which I something I stupidly didn't consider, the whole not having a conference thing is irrelevant.
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Re: Other game thread

Postby Dick Rosenthal on Sun Dec 07, 2014 1:11 pm

The only good news in any of this is I think Jeff Long takes a bullet in the head very shortly. You don't fuck over two teams from Texas to put a shitty Ohio State team that was manhandled at home by Virginia Tech and not get killed in the process. I hope he gets a throat shot first so he can choke on his own blood before they finish him off with a double tap.
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Re: Other game thread

Postby MilitantEagle on Sun Dec 07, 2014 1:13 pm

Big 12 shouldn't add anybody. Play a tougher out of conference schedule. More teams (presumably weak ones) means more mouths to feed.

But if they do expand, I think BYU is a no-brainer. The 12th team is not as obvious. Maybe UCF, Boise St. Houston, Cinci, Memphis, or Colorado St.
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Re: Other game thread

Postby HJS on Sun Dec 07, 2014 1:15 pm

eaglesfan06 {l Wrote}:Wait are we seriously touting TCU's OOC scheduling?

You mean Samford, Minnesota (at home) and SMU is supposed to be impressive?

It's more ambitious than WVU, Western Carolina, So Miss and Fla Atlantic or Navy, Kent St., UVA and Cincy.

Again. The issue is Baylor not facing anyone and them really being the B12 Conf Champ. Baylor was awesome this year and their OOC schedule being as pathetic as Miss State's is frankly inexcusable. Nonetheless, tOSU would lose by double digits to BOTH Baylor and TCU.
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Re: Other game thread

Postby Dick Rosenthal on Sun Dec 07, 2014 1:17 pm

Ohio State lost at home to a VA Tech team that needed a last minute comeback win over a terrible UVA team to get bowl eligible. That trumps everything else. Anyone making the case for tOSU deserves brain cancer.
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