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claver2010 {l Wrote}:

31southst {l Wrote}:I don't know if this is true at all but someone on EA is saying there's a good chance UF tackle Trip Thurman keeps the UF to BC 5th year pipeline going. Daz recruited (but didn't coach) him and BC was his second or third choice.

Perfect, the coaching uncertainty / sucktitude at UF + how the 5th years have done here should only increase the chances of more

twballgame9 {l Wrote}:They have to be RS Jrs to play right away, and they have to be good enough to matter without being good enough to start at a better team or chance the draft. It's a unique situation.

eagle216 {l Wrote}:

twballgame9 {l Wrote}:They have to be RS Jrs to play right away, and they have to be good enough to matter without being good enough to start at a better team or chance the draft. It's a unique situation.

Exactly. And in addition, they have to play a position where we have basically no one ready to start, which will become an increasingly rare situation as Daz fills in the roster year to year.

Also, my initial take on this discussion was "this is bad for team morale - having 5th year transfers coming in and taking spots." Then I remembered that I don't have a vagina.

ATLeagle {l Wrote}:With Barrett playing so well do you think there is any chance Braxton Miller leaves OSU as a 5th year?

eagle9903 {l Wrote}:ignoring 99% of the reasons this won't happen, do you think it would be poor politically for Daz to push Wade's tenure back another year? I guess you just do it if the available transfer is of that caliber.

dtwalrus {l Wrote}:

ATLeagle {l Wrote}:With Barrett playing so well do you think there is any chance Braxton Miller leaves OSU as a 5th year?

Based on nothing whatsoever, yes. I think it's highly likely and would be excellent for all parties involved. In fact, I'm sure Urban politely recommends playing for Daz to Braxton, given their history together. Very natural fit.

StratEagle {l Wrote}:Throwing to Callinan and Crimmins doesn't seem like the best way to improve your draft stock

eepstein0 {l Wrote}:

StratEagle {l Wrote}:Throwing to Callinan and Crimmins doesn't seem like the best way to improve your draft stock

Callahan isn't bad. Crimmins is awful. We get Swigert and Jackson back next year.

StratEagle {l Wrote}:

eepstein0 {l Wrote}:

StratEagle {l Wrote}:Throwing to Callinan and Crimmins doesn't seem like the best way to improve your draft stock

Callahan isn't bad. Crimmins is awful. We get Swigert and Jackson back next year.

But still, this kid will have every QB needy factory lining up for him. I would love to see it happen but it's a pipe dream at this point.

eagle9903 {l Wrote}:

StratEagle {l Wrote}:

eepstein0 {l Wrote}:

StratEagle {l Wrote}:Throwing to Callinan and Crimmins doesn't seem like the best way to improve your draft stock

Callahan isn't bad. Crimmins is awful. We get Swigert and Jackson back next year.

But still, this kid will have every QB needy factory lining up for him. I would love to see it happen but it's a pipe dream at this point.

FWIW I think the SEC has a graduate transfer ban and I forget whether there would be a problem with a transfer within th B1G so there might be limited factories involved.

StratEagle {l Wrote}:

eagle9903 {l Wrote}:

StratEagle {l Wrote}:

eepstein0 {l Wrote}:

StratEagle {l Wrote}:Throwing to Callinan and Crimmins doesn't seem like the best way to improve your draft stock

Callahan isn't bad. Crimmins is awful. We get Swigert and Jackson back next year.

But still, this kid will have every QB needy factory lining up for him. I would love to see it happen but it's a pipe dream at this point.

FWIW I think the SEC has a graduate transfer ban and I forget whether there would be a problem with a transfer within th B1G so there might be limited factories involved.

http://www.cbssports.com/collegefootball/writer/jon-solomon/24577149/sec-lifts-ban-on-accepting-graduate-student-transfers

2014 Eagle {l Wrote}:The real thing I wonder about is how many more years do you think we can tap our AAA team, UF, for grad transfers? Daz's connections with the players there have got to be running out and with Muschamp perhaps on the verge of getting fired, there may not be too many coaches left over from his days in Gainesville to keep that connection going. Right?

31southst {l Wrote}:

2014 Eagle {l Wrote}:The real thing I wonder about is how many more years do you think we can tap our AAA team, UF, for grad transfers? Daz's connections with the players there have got to be running out and with Muschamp perhaps on the verge of getting fired, there may not be too many coaches left over from his days in Gainesville to keep that connection going. Right?

That's probably right but if Addazio's recruiting is what we hope, we should be fine without 5th years in a year or so.

HJS {l Wrote}:Let's not get to crazy with this whole 5th year thing.

We aren't KSU talking about Jucos. Daz has really only taken a few 5th year transfers. Of them, I would say only 2 have had a significant impact on each season Patchan last year and Murphy this season. We are a better team with Brown and Shakim and Silberman... but I think we have the same win/loss with them or without. I also don't think Daz's use of 5th years is anything outside the norm for any program. And, when you consider the players Spaz used to acquire with immediate eligibility because their previous school cancelled football, I don't think it is particularly outside the norm for BC.

Daz inherited a mess of a roster not only is he charged with revamping the talent, he has to normalize the scholarship situation. Transfers help accomplish both. I expect that Daz will take a cold/hard/honest look at his roster for next year (at some point while he's prepping for the bowl) and identify areas of immediate need. Those areas he will attempt to address via recruiting and transfers. Very simply... he is going to do what any coach does. We just talk about it here like its a thing because our previous coach took an 8-month vacation after the final loss of the season.

DomingoOrtiz {l Wrote}:According to TOS, our remaining targets are: Wilkins, Shelton-Mosley, Annan, Crawford, and Samuel.

2014 Eagle {l Wrote}:

DomingoOrtiz {l Wrote}:According to TOS, our remaining targets are: Wilkins, Shelton-Mosley, Annan, Crawford, and Samuel.

Do we have a legit shot at Wilkins, or is BC the #5 in his top 5 and for all intents and purposes out of the running?

Four-star defensive tackle Christian Wilkins is one of the quieter recruits in the country, but he has scheduled his second official visit to Clemson for next weekend. It is hard to really tell who is seriously involved because of Wilkins' silent spells, but at this time I'm hearing Stanford, who received his first official visit, Clemson, Penn State, Notre Dame, Boston College and Ohio State. The Nittany Lions are actually still pushing for an official visit this weekend, but at last check that has yet to come together. To make his situation even more interesting, he will likely enroll at a school for the spring semester, so time is obviously running short for additional official visits.

Tom Dooder {l Wrote}:

HJS {l Wrote}:Let's not get to crazy with this whole 5th year thing.

We aren't KSU talking about Jucos. Daz has really only taken a few 5th year transfers. Of them, I would say only 2 have had a significant impact on each season Patchan last year and Murphy this season. We are a better team with Brown and Shakim and Silberman... but I think we have the same win/loss with them or without. I also don't think Daz's use of 5th years is anything outside the norm for any program. And, when you consider the players Spaz used to acquire with immediate eligibility because their previous school cancelled football, I don't think it is particularly outside the norm for BC.

Daz inherited a mess of a roster not only is he charged with revamping the talent, he has to normalize the scholarship situation. Transfers help accomplish both. I expect that Daz will take a cold/hard/honest look at his roster for next year (at some point while he's prepping for the bowl) and identify areas of immediate need. Those areas he will attempt to address via recruiting and transfers. Very simply... he is going to do what any coach does. We just talk about it here like its a thing because our previous coach took an 8-month vacation after the final loss of the season.

Weekend at Spaziani's: Dead? Alive? Who can tell?

31southst {l Wrote}:

2014 Eagle {l Wrote}:

DomingoOrtiz {l Wrote}:According to TOS, our remaining targets are: Wilkins, Shelton-Mosley, Annan, Crawford, and Samuel.

Do we have a legit shot at Wilkins, or is BC the #5 in his top 5 and for all intents and purposes out of the running?

It's not entirely clear - most "experts" think Wilkins is going to PSU but I'm not sure what that stems from. Farrell actually had a note on him today:

Four-star defensive tackle Christian Wilkins is one of the quieter recruits in the country, but he has scheduled his second official visit to Clemson for next weekend. It is hard to really tell who is seriously involved because of Wilkins' silent spells, but at this time I'm hearing Stanford, who received his first official visit, Clemson, Penn State, Notre Dame, Boston College and Ohio State. The Nittany Lions are actually still pushing for an official visit this weekend, but at last check that has yet to come together. To make his situation even more interesting, he will likely enroll at a school for the spring semester, so time is obviously running short for additional official visits.

Logitano {l Wrote}:

Tom Dooder {l Wrote}:

HJS {l Wrote}:Let's not get to crazy with this whole 5th year thing.

We aren't KSU talking about Jucos. Daz has really only taken a few 5th year transfers. Of them, I would say only 2 have had a significant impact on each season Patchan last year and Murphy this season. We are a better team with Brown and Shakim and Silberman... but I think we have the same win/loss with them or without. I also don't think Daz's use of 5th years is anything outside the norm for any program. And, when you consider the players Spaz used to acquire with immediate eligibility because their previous school cancelled football, I don't think it is particularly outside the norm for BC.

Daz inherited a mess of a roster not only is he charged with revamping the talent, he has to normalize the scholarship situation. Transfers help accomplish both. I expect that Daz will take a cold/hard/honest look at his roster for next year (at some point while he's prepping for the bowl) and identify areas of immediate need. Those areas he will attempt to address via recruiting and transfers. Very simply... he is going to do what any coach does. We just talk about it here like its a thing because our previous coach took an 8-month vacation after the final loss of the season.

Weekend at Spaziani's: Dead? Alive? Who can tell?

Mega dittos!