HJS {l Wrote}:http://espn.go.com/college-football/story/_/id/9485181/acc-agrees-six-bowl-deals-sources-say
I know the Peach is now part of the College Playoff. I assume that means that they no longer have an affiliation a conference. Anyway, the #2 team is going to be shipped to the Russell/Champs/Tangerine/MicronPC/Blockbuster/Carquest. Pretty crappy if you ask me. Apparently, the one saving grace will be if a B10 team gets selected for the Orange... at which point #2 goes the Capital One Citrus Bowl. Catlett gets his dying Gator Bowl back in the mix (but they have like the 4th or 5th pick). Otherwise, it is the same run of Music City, Belk, Sun, Pinstripe. Look... we all know BC isn't being selected voluntarilty. But, if I am one of the few travelling fan bases, I'm a little pissed that it is playoffs or bust. Losing the Peach and not really replacing it... is a blow to those fans.
talon {l Wrote}:Is the Russell/Champs/Tangerine/MicronPC/Blockbuster/Carquest "pretty crappy" because it doesn't have that much history as anything more than a third tier bowl? Or because the opponent in the Russell/Champs/Tangerine/MicronPC/Blockbuster/Carquest Bowl will be terrible?
talon {l Wrote}:Also sounds like the ACC might also add the Liberty, AdvoCare V100 and Beef 'O' Brady's Bowls.
St. Peterburg isn't that bad of a location, and the Liberty Bowl does have some historical "prestige," but if BC gets selected to the Advocare V100 Bowl, how many BC fans are making a trip to Shreveport?
It's a 3 hour straight shot on I-20 from Dallas. So maybe Dallas based BC fans would go if the game was on a Saturday, but if this game falls during the week, is 3 hours too far?
Casey {l Wrote}:Seems to me Notre Dame is hurt the most by this. The ACC now has a much, much stronger incentive put a Big 10 TeAm in the Orange Bowl (rather than Notre Dame), because doing so gives the ACC the Big 10's spot in the Citris Bowl, which has a big purse and prime TV slot. In other words, the ACC gains a bowl by spurning Notre Dame for the Orange.
If you recall, Notre Dame proposed jointing the ACC with a six game conference commitment in return for access to the Orange & all other bowls. Instead the ACC took a 5 game commitment, with no guaranteed access to the Orange, or any bowl before the ACCCG runner-up is placed.
It gives the ACC more leverage to put the screws to ND when the ACC/ESPN deal expires ( the year before ND's NBC deal expires)
HJS {l Wrote}:Casey {l Wrote}:Seems to me Notre Dame is hurt the most by this. The ACC now has a much, much stronger incentive put a Big 10 TeAm in the Orange Bowl (rather than Notre Dame), because doing so gives the ACC the Big 10's spot in the Citris Bowl, which has a big purse and prime TV slot. In other words, the ACC gains a bowl by spurning Notre Dame for the Orange.
If you recall, Notre Dame proposed jointing the ACC with a six game conference commitment in return for access to the Orange & all other bowls. Instead the ACC took a 5 game commitment, with no guaranteed access to the Orange, or any bowl before the ACCCG runner-up is placed.
It gives the ACC more leverage to put the screws to ND when the ACC/ESPN deal expires ( the year before ND's NBC deal expires)
You could not be more wrong about any of this.
First... with regard to the Orange Bowl: The selection of the ACC representative's opponent will be based on securing the highest-ranked team in the final standings available from either the Big Ten, the SEC or Notre Dame. However, the Big Ten and SEC teams must appear at least three times each during the 12-year life of the deal, while Notre Dame can appear in the game a maximum of only two times. There is no minimum number of requirements by Notre Dame.
Second... with regard to the bowl arrangement between ND and the ACC: Starting in the 2014 season -- and coinciding with the new college football playoff -- Notre Dame could step over an ACC team and take its place in one of the non-BCS bowls if its record is better than, equal to or within one win of the ACC team or ranked higher in the BCS standings.
HJS {l Wrote}:Casey {l Wrote}:Seems to me Notre Dame is hurt the most by this. The ACC now has a much, much stronger incentive put a Big 10 TeAm in the Orange Bowl (rather than Notre Dame), because doing so gives the ACC the Big 10's spot in the Citris Bowl, which has a big purse and prime TV slot. In other words, the ACC gains a bowl by spurning Notre Dame for the Orange.
If you recall, Notre Dame proposed jointing the ACC with a six game conference commitment in return for access to the Orange & all other bowls. Instead the ACC took a 5 game commitment, with no guaranteed access to the Orange, or any bowl before the ACCCG runner-up is placed.
It gives the ACC more leverage to put the screws to ND when the ACC/ESPN deal expires ( the year before ND's NBC deal expires)
You could not be more wrong about any of this.
First... with regard to the Orange Bowl: The selection of the ACC representative's opponent will be based on securing the highest-ranked team in the final standings available from either the Big Ten, the SEC or Notre Dame. However, the Big Ten and SEC teams must appear at least three times each during the 12-year life of the deal, while Notre Dame can appear in the game a maximum of only two times. There is no minimum number of requirements by Notre Dame.
Second... with regard to the bowl arrangement between ND and the ACC: Starting in the 2014 season -- and coinciding with the new college football playoff -- Notre Dame could step over an ACC team and take its place in one of the non-BCS bowls if its record is better than, equal to or within one win of the ACC team or ranked higher in the BCS standings. Notre Dame would share in the revenues if selected to any of those bowls, and get an expenses allowance. If Notre Dame is picked for a BCS game, it would keep its revenues from that appearance.
HJS {l Wrote}:I think the most glaring Catlett misstep was when he chose a barely VaTech team who was 4-3 in the Big East instead of a 6-1 (10-win) Cuse squad who was ranked in the Top 15.
innocentbystander {l Wrote}:HJS {l Wrote}:I think the most glaring Catlett misstep was when he chose a barely VaTech team who was 4-3 in the Big East instead of a 6-1 (10-win) Cuse squad who was ranked in the Top 15.
That was no misstep. Syracuse fans/alum don't generally travel to bowl games (not like VPI alum.) That was every bit intentional. $$$$$$
innocentbystander {l Wrote}:HJS {l Wrote}:I think the most glaring Catlett misstep was when he chose a barely VaTech team who was 4-3 in the Big East instead of a 6-1 (10-win) Cuse squad who was ranked in the Top 15.
That was no misstep. Syracuse fans/alum don't generally travel to bowl games (not like VPI alum.) That was every bit intentional. $$$$$$
bcfanbetweenthhedges {l Wrote}:BC will Travel to the Yankee Bowl / Babe Ruth Bowl/ PinStripe Bowl .......against the B10
talon {l Wrote}:I guess that depends on how you define "travel."
If a BC fan lives in NY and goes to the Pinstripe Bowl, did he "travel?"
twballgame9 {l Wrote}:BC fans don't travel to Chestnut Hill.
HJS {l Wrote}:Good for them...
http://espn.go.com/college-football/sto ... boca-raton
In all seriousness, those are pretty decent destinations (even though the exhibition games being played there will suck).
DavidGordonsFoot {l Wrote}:HJS {l Wrote}:Good for them...
http://espn.go.com/college-football/sto ... boca-raton
In all seriousness, those are pretty decent destinations (even though the exhibition games being played there will suck).
Not for nothing, but I'd rather watch them play two-hand touch on Paradise Island Golf Course than venture into downtown Nassau for a football game.
TobaccoRoadEagle {l Wrote}:DavidGordonsFoot {l Wrote}:HJS {l Wrote}:Good for them...
http://espn.go.com/college-football/sto ... boca-raton
In all seriousness, those are pretty decent destinations (even though the exhibition games being played there will suck).
Not for nothing, but I'd rather watch them play two-hand touch on Paradise Island Golf Course than venture into downtown Nassau for a football game.
of course you would
hinghameagle {l Wrote}:Bowl questions:
1. if BC lands on 6-6, what are the odds that they get into a bowl? Are they more or less a lock?
2. If BC lands on 6-6, what are the odds they get into a bowl, if some of their fellow conference mates such as say, Syracuse, UNC, NC State, Duke, UVA and Wake also fall on 6-6 or a game above. I would put maryland in, but their schedule is too easy to finish at 6-6
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