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Re: Addazio will turn out to be a great hire

Postby eagle9903 on Sun Nov 30, 2014 6:56 pm

Brown has done a great job.
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Re: Addazio will turn out to be a great hire

Postby talon on Sun Nov 30, 2014 7:18 pm

StratEagle {l Wrote}:He's done ok but let's not just ignore the ball control running offense that significantly shortens every game...

Are the games really significantly shorter? BC's average T.O.P. this year is 32 minutes and 39 seconds.
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Re: Addazio will turn out to be a great hire

Postby StratEagle on Sun Nov 30, 2014 8:13 pm

Are the games really significantly shorter? BC's average T.O.P. this year is 32 minutes and 39 seconds.

I'd be interested to see the average plays per game. You could pretty easily attribute the TOP to not being able to get off the field on third down. Anyways, yes Donny has done a decent job with the talent he has been given, my original point was just that the total defense stats are a little misleading.
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Re: Addazio will turn out to be a great hire

Postby NotoriousOrange on Sun Nov 30, 2014 8:50 pm

StratEagle {l Wrote}:
Are the games really significantly shorter? BC's average T.O.P. this year is 32 minutes and 39 seconds.

I'd be interested to see the average plays per game. You could pretty easily attribute the TOP to not being able to get off the field on third down. Anyways, yes Donny has done a decent job with the talent he has been given, my original point was just that the total defense stats are a little misleading.


The stats over a full year are a good indicator of what the D was. Was it a dominating D? No. But with mediocre talent compared to the past year's Keeks, Kiwi, Raji, Herzy, Brace, etc. BC had a strong defensive year and Brown was a major factor.

I far prefer Brown's aggressive defense over Spaz's bend but don't break. And this year it resulted in a ranking of 19 out of 125 FBS schools for scoring defense - which, is the most important defensive stat and any way you want to look at it is a very good ranking.
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Re: Addazio will turn out to be a great hire

Postby eagle216 on Sun Nov 30, 2014 9:46 pm

Considering that he not one player who will play on Sundays, Brown and staff did a good job.
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Re: Addazio will turn out to be a great hire

Postby eagletx on Mon Dec 01, 2014 10:52 am

In a slightly different vein, I heard that Dazz hosted and sprung for an alumni gathering somewhere in the greater NY recently.
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Re: Addazio will turn out to be a great hire

Postby talon on Tue Dec 09, 2014 2:02 pm

Saw this on the twitters:

RT @ChrisMCameron: Steve Addazio on NYC food: "I'm a foodie, just look at me." Just coined the term "meaningful meatball." #WeAreBC
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Re: Addazio will turn out to be a great hire

Postby eaglesfan06 on Thu Dec 11, 2014 11:29 pm

Remember when this guy was supposedly a finalist for our head coaching job?

http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/fo ... story.html
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Re: Addazio will turn out to be a great hire

Postby basselope on Fri Dec 12, 2014 11:59 am

StratEagle {l Wrote}:
Are the games really significantly shorter? BC's average T.O.P. this year is 32 minutes and 39 seconds.

I'd be interested to see the average plays per game. You could pretty easily attribute the TOP to not being able to get off the field on third down. Anyways, yes Donny has done a decent job with the talent he has been given, my original point was just that the total defense stats are a little misleading.


here you go....
1st time since 2008 BC ran more plays than their opponent.

Ave Plays per game
Year Off Def
2014 67 62
2013 60 72
2012 68 82
2011 63 70
2010 64 70
2009 64 69
2008 69 63

Edit: Added 2009 & 2008
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Re: Addazio will turn out to be a great hire

Postby eagle9903 on Fri Dec 12, 2014 12:03 pm

basselope {l Wrote}:
StratEagle {l Wrote}:
Are the games really significantly shorter? BC's average T.O.P. this year is 32 minutes and 39 seconds.

I'd be interested to see the average plays per game. You could pretty easily attribute the TOP to not being able to get off the field on third down. Anyways, yes Donny has done a decent job with the talent he has been given, my original point was just that the total defense stats are a little misleading.


here you go....

Ave Plays per game
Year Off Def
2014 67 62
2013 60 72
2012 68 82
2011 63 70
2010 64 70


and there you have it, VPI will be back at the top of the Coastal next season.
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Re: Addazio will turn out to be a great hire

Postby TobaccoRoadEagle on Fri Dec 12, 2014 12:20 pm

holy shit 82 plays/game for the defense in 2012. how the hell did spaz last as long as he did
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Re: Addazio will turn out to be a great hire

Postby DavidGordonsFoot on Fri Dec 12, 2014 12:23 pm

TobaccoRoadEagle {l Wrote}:holy shit 82 plays/game for the defense in 2012. how the hell did spaz last as long as he did

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Re: Addazio will turn out to be a great hire

Postby basselope on Fri Dec 12, 2014 4:55 pm

DavidGordonsFoot {l Wrote}:
TobaccoRoadEagle {l Wrote}:holy shit 82 plays/game for the defense in 2012. how the hell did spaz last as long as he did

"loyalty"


Ice Cream can cover up a lot of shit...

In the past 7 years the BC defense was on the field for over 90 plays a total of 4 times.

2013
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Re: Addazio will turn out to be a great hire

Postby Bunratty on Fri Dec 12, 2014 6:40 pm

TobaccoRoadEagle {l Wrote}:holy shit 82 plays/game for the defense in 2012. how the hell did spaz last as long as he did

We like BC football. Spazirelli liked defense.
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Re: Addazio will turn out to be a great hire

Postby ATLeagle on Fri Dec 12, 2014 7:56 pm

TobaccoRoadEagle {l Wrote}:holy shit 82 plays/game for the defense in 2012. how the hell did spaz last as long as he did



It is sort of like Wisconsin now. When the AD is really the coach, how the coaches manage the puppet master is more important than winning.
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Re: Addazio will turn out to be a great hire

Postby StratEagle on Fri Dec 12, 2014 8:15 pm

going along with those numbers, Brown is at least making progress

2014: 5.05 yards per play
2013: 5.9
2012: 5.6
2011: 5.6
2010: 4.43
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Re: Addazio will turn out to be a great hire

Postby eagle9903 on Sat Dec 13, 2014 9:55 am

StratEagle {l Wrote}:going along with those numbers, Brown is at least making progress

2014: 5.05 yards per play
2013: 5.9
2012: 5.6
2011: 5.6
2010: 4.43


I'd fall back to a different argument too.
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Re: Addazio will turn out to be a great hire

Postby StratEagle on Sat Dec 13, 2014 1:32 pm

eagle9903 {l Wrote}:
StratEagle {l Wrote}:going along with those numbers, Brown is at least making progress

2014: 5.05 yards per play
2013: 5.9
2012: 5.6
2011: 5.6
2010: 4.43


I'd fall back to a different argument too.

And why would you do that considering they played the least amount of plays in recent years?

I didn't realize I was still arguing against anyone.
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Re: Addazio will turn out to be a great hire

Postby DuxEagle26 on Sat Dec 13, 2014 1:57 pm

StratEagle {l Wrote}:
eagle9903 {l Wrote}:
StratEagle {l Wrote}:going along with those numbers, Brown is at least making progress

2014: 5.05 yards per play
2013: 5.9
2012: 5.6
2011: 5.6
2010: 4.43


I'd fall back to a different argument too.

And why would you do that considering they played the least amount of plays in recent years?

I didn't realize I was still arguing against anyone.

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Re: Addazio will turn out to be a great hire

Postby basselope on Sat Dec 13, 2014 3:22 pm

The ball control offense and TOP has certainly added to the effectiveness of the defense.
Plus the fact the current coach has a fucking clue how to coach....

TOP STATS

Year-- Off--- Def
2014 33:10 26:50
2013 29:15 30:45
2012 27:00 33:00
2011 30:32 29:28
2010 28:58 31:02
2009 29:19 30:41
2008 30:57 29:02
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Re: Addazio will turn out to be a great hire

Postby hansen on Sun Dec 14, 2014 3:13 am

basselope {l Wrote}:The ball control offense and TOP has certainly added to the effectiveness of the defense.
Plus the fact the current coach has a fucking clue how to coach....

TOP STATS

Year-- Off--- Def
2014 33:10 26:50
2013 29:15 30:45
2012 27:00 33:00
2011 30:32 29:28
2010 28:58 31:02
2009 29:19 30:41
2008 30:57 29:02


I'm a big believer in TOP. the longer you hold the ball, the less likely the other team can score (obviously). That said, it really all comes down to points. i'd be interested in seeing the PPG over the same timeframe. if it's already been posted, forgive me as i've skipped some posts in the thread.
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Re: Addazio will turn out to be a great hire

Postby twballgame9 on Sun Dec 14, 2014 8:07 am

Top post on this page. We know points are down question is how much of the why is attributible to the offense
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Re: Addazio will turn out to be a great hire

Postby TobaccoRoadEagle on Sun Dec 28, 2014 9:35 am

just wanted to take a moment to reiterate that addazio is an improvement over spaz but I'm not willing to call him a "great hire" yet. until he learns to manage a clock, call a game with the lead and that a team needs players that can consistently kick a ball through some uprights from 12.5 yards away I will consider him a good addition to our program... not great
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Re: Addazio will turn out to be a great hire

Postby eagle9903 on Sun Dec 28, 2014 9:54 am

TobaccoRoadEagle {l Wrote}:just wanted to take a moment to reiterate that addazio is an improvement over spaz but I'm not willing to call him a "great hire" yet. until he learns to manage a clock, call a game with the lead and that a team needs players that can consistently kick a ball through some uprights from 12.5 yards away I will consider him a good addition to our program... not great


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Re: Addazio will turn out to be a great hire

Postby Bryn Mawr Eagle on Sun Dec 28, 2014 10:11 am

TobaccoRoadEagle {l Wrote}:just wanted to take a moment to reiterate that addazio is an improvement over spaz but I'm not willing to call him a "great hire" yet. until he learns to manage a clock, call a game with the lead and that a team needs players that can consistently kick a ball through some uprights from 12.5 yards away I will consider him a good addition to our program... not great


This is a fair assessment at this point. This season was a lot of fun, but I think most of that fun was becuse of Tyler Murphy. The Dazzler's real tests start this coming season now that he is bringing in more of his own talent. And he's now had plenty of time to learn how to manage the end of a game.
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Re: Addazio will turn out to be a great hire

Postby branchinator on Sun Dec 28, 2014 10:43 am

Bryn Mawr Eagle {l Wrote}:
TobaccoRoadEagle {l Wrote}:just wanted to take a moment to reiterate that addazio is an improvement over spaz but I'm not willing to call him a "great hire" yet. until he learns to manage a clock, call a game with the lead and that a team needs players that can consistently kick a ball through some uprights from 12.5 yards away I will consider him a good addition to our program... not great


This is a fair assessment at this point. This season was a lot of fun, but I think most of that fun was becuse of Tyler Murphy. The Dazzler's real tests start this coming season now that he is bringing in more of his own talent. And he's now had plenty of time to learn how to manage the end of a game.


"Most" is an understatement. Tyler Murphy is the only reason why this team was in a bowl game and not a 3-4 win disaster. Sherman Alston was fun to watch and Hilliman's emergence was a bit of a revelation for me but the simple fact is that Tyler Murphy did a great job of hiding all of the coaching staff's huge flaws. Next year, they'll have a green QB, a completely new OL, and the same crap on defense. The only way 2015 isn't a huge step back is if Darius Wade surprises us in similar fashion. The talent on this team is still bad.
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Re: Addazio will turn out to be a great hire

Postby TobaccoRoadEagle on Sun Dec 28, 2014 10:51 am

branchinator {l Wrote}:
Bryn Mawr Eagle {l Wrote}:
TobaccoRoadEagle {l Wrote}:just wanted to take a moment to reiterate that addazio is an improvement over spaz but I'm not willing to call him a "great hire" yet. until he learns to manage a clock, call a game with the lead and that a team needs players that can consistently kick a ball through some uprights from 12.5 yards away I will consider him a good addition to our program... not great


This is a fair assessment at this point. This season was a lot of fun, but I think most of that fun was becuse of Tyler Murphy. The Dazzler's real tests start this coming season now that he is bringing in more of his own talent. And he's now had plenty of time to learn how to manage the end of a game.


"Most" is an understatement. Tyler Murphy is the only reason why this team was in a bowl game and not a 3-4 win disaster. Sherman Alston was fun to watch and Hilliman's emergence was a bit of a revelation for me but the simple fact is that Tyler Murphy did a great job of hiding all of the coaching staff's huge flaws. Next year, they'll have a green QB, a completely new OL, and the same crap on defense. The only way 2015 isn't a huge step back is if Darius Wade surprises us in similar fashion. The talent on this team is still bad.

yeah but addazio brought in Murphy so addazio is the bestest. Barf.
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Re: Addazio will turn out to be a great hire

Postby claver2010 on Sun Dec 28, 2014 10:57 am

branchinator {l Wrote}: the simple fact is that Tyler Murphy did a great job of hiding all of the coaching staff's huge flaws.


what?
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Re: Addazio will turn out to be a great hire

Postby branchinator on Sun Dec 28, 2014 10:59 am

claver2010 {l Wrote}:
branchinator {l Wrote}: the simple fact is that Tyler Murphy did a great job of hiding all of the coaching staff's huge flaws.


what?


Not difficult to understand so won't explain. Sorry.
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Re: Addazio will turn out to be a great hire

Postby claver2010 on Sun Dec 28, 2014 11:04 am

branchinator {l Wrote}:
claver2010 {l Wrote}:
branchinator {l Wrote}: the simple fact is that Tyler Murphy did a great job of hiding all of the coaching staff's huge flaws.


what?


Not difficult to understand so won't explain. Sorry.


1) Does the staff get credit for bringing in Murphy, a player that was cast off from Florida & tailoring the offense to him?
b) Isn't it more Murphy did a great job masking the talent deficiencies that recruiting classes that ranked 9th, 8th, 12th, 14th, & 9th in the ACC?
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