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Re: Football Townhall with Bates

PostPosted: Sat Feb 02, 2013 7:20 pm
by 31southst
Overall the thing made me think more of Bates and about the same with Daz.

Bates clearly gives a crap and wants to make game day a better experience. The staffer at my table also made a couple references to knowing about a lot of these problems for the last ten years (i.e., under Gene) and only now getting the green light to do something about it. I'm curious to see what if any changes are made in the fall and beyond.

Daz is what he is - a bit of a meathead who believes in old school style football. I still don't like the hire and don't like what I perceived to be stubbornness on his part. That said, it does seem to me that he knows recruiting is very important and if nothing else he should bring up the talent level. I think he's going to be what we thought Spaz would be - a poor man's TOB. That said, I don't doubt he'll leave the cupboard more stocked for the next guy than how he found it.

Re: Football Townhall with Bates

PostPosted: Sat Feb 02, 2013 8:26 pm
by commavegarage
btw also got a chuckle out of this: adaziani is one of those people who think the broncos werent any better with manning than they were with tebow because they lost in the same round.

Re: Football Townhall with Bates

PostPosted: Sat Feb 02, 2013 9:45 pm
by HJS
claver2010 {l Wrote}:6 home games will not happen again.

Did anyone ask why the fuck we booked a one-off road game in New Mexico???

Also, no one asked a single Q about conference expansion?

Re: Football Townhall with Bates

PostPosted: Sat Feb 02, 2013 10:32 pm
by claver2010
31southst {l Wrote}:Overall the thing made me think more of Bates and about the same with Daz.

Bates clearly gives a crap and wants to make game day a better experience. The staffer at my table also made a couple references to knowing about a lot of these problems for the last ten years (i.e., under Gene) and only now getting the green light to do something about it. I'm curious to see what if any changes are made in the fall and beyond.


Agreed.

I've met the master several times and he's impressed me every time. He gives a shit. From the AD employee at my table, I also got the impression that Gene burned a shit ton of bridges around Boston and now that he's gone we'll have more opportunities for improvement (they talked about Bates with a clean slate, etc.)

Re: Football Townhall with Bates

PostPosted: Sun Feb 03, 2013 7:36 am
by DavidGordonsFoot
claver2010 {l Wrote}:
31southst {l Wrote}:Overall the thing made me think more of Bates and about the same with Daz.

Bates clearly gives a crap and wants to make game day a better experience. The staffer at my table also made a couple references to knowing about a lot of these problems for the last ten years (i.e., under Gene) and only now getting the green light to do something about it. I'm curious to see what if any changes are made in the fall and beyond.


Agreed.

I've met the master several times and he's impressed me every time. He gives a shit. From the AD employee at my table, I also got the impression that Gene burned a shit ton of bridges around Boston and now that he's gone we'll have more opportunities for improvement (they talked about Bates with a clean slate, etc.)


Were the words "clean slate" actually used? Because that would speak volumes about GDF and the things he claimed to be powerless about (tailgating hours, etc).

Re: Football Townhall with Bates

PostPosted: Sun Feb 03, 2013 7:39 am
by DavidGordonsFoot
claver2010 {l Wrote}:there were several questions/comments where there was a definite undercurrent of: :oldman in my day there were all sullys from southie and played holy cross


This was the immediate impression I got from the video of the first town hall. It looked like 15 tables of 50+-year old white guys.

Re: Football Townhall with Bates

PostPosted: Sun Feb 03, 2013 9:43 am
by commavegarage
DavidGordonsFoot {l Wrote}:
claver2010 {l Wrote}:
31southst {l Wrote}:Overall the thing made me think more of Bates and about the same with Daz.

Bates clearly gives a crap and wants to make game day a better experience. The staffer at my table also made a couple references to knowing about a lot of these problems for the last ten years (i.e., under Gene) and only now getting the green light to do something about it. I'm curious to see what if any changes are made in the fall and beyond.


Agreed.

I've met the master several times and he's impressed me every time. He gives a shit. From the AD employee at my table, I also got the impression that Gene burned a shit ton of bridges around Boston and now that he's gone we'll have more opportunities for improvement (they talked about Bates with a clean slate, etc.)


Were the words "clean slate" actually used? Because that would speak volumes about GDF and the things he claimed to be powerless about (tailgating hours, etc).


yes.

also, one minion i overheard said the following will likely happen:

1. parking on those cleveland circle fields
2. selling any extra parking on a game by game basis but at a premium to be fair to season ticket holders
3. beer garden on brighton campus to get around the no tailgating etc

i found the minions much nicer & more approachable than ever yesterday. cant tell if theyre just doing that to appease master bates or if thats how they actually are as people and gene sucked the life out of them.

Re: Football Townhall with Bates

PostPosted: Sun Feb 03, 2013 10:00 am
by Mosi
what table were you guys at? I was at 3

Claver covered most of the points but my take aways

Daz is the Anti-Spaz, 100%, the only thing he and Coach :spaz2 Sadface have in common is vowel at end of name. Charismatic, passionate, driven.. trying to get what they can for this years recruits since we're handicaped with the Spaz 15, but really working on next years class. guy beside me was the one who asked about recruiting rankings (Daz basicly said the stars don't mean shit, Pouncy bros at UF were 2* now all pros) and Stadium expansion (BB:not until there is a waiting list and a deep one) Many good questions of both.. and like it was said, some people just wanted to hear them selves talk ( :whalepants from West Rox)

Staffer sitting next to me was O'Neil from Ticket office, Good Guy! I wasn't able to ask my question to Bates, but brought up in round table about Game dday parking for $40/50 on St Johns, kicking back $10 to Brighton charity, no reason why we are held hostage by people who move here when the school has been here for 100 years. He said that everything about the game day experience in up for discussion including Beer and Wine in Stands

as I told one of the boys who wasn't at meeting after the hoop game, I felt 100% better about the direction of the program at 3:30 yesterday then I did at 9:30

Re: Football Townhall with Bates

PostPosted: Sun Feb 03, 2013 10:45 am
by eagle9903
But bates came from the MAC so he is a MAC level AD. Steve Addazio is proving to be worse than Frank Spaziani!

Re: Football Townhall with Bates

PostPosted: Sun Feb 03, 2013 10:48 am
by commavegarage
Mosi {l Wrote}:as I told one of the boys who wasn't at meeting after the hoop game, I felt 100% better about the direction of the program at 3:30 yesterday then I did at 9:30


theyre saying all the right things no question. now will they implement it?

Re: Football Townhall with Bates

PostPosted: Sun Feb 03, 2013 11:02 am
by eagle9903
commavegarage {l Wrote}:
Mosi {l Wrote}:as I told one of the boys who wasn't at meeting after the hoop game, I felt 100% better about the direction of the program at 3:30 yesterday then I did at 9:30


theyre saying all the right things no question. now will they implement it?


I don't think we should give it time to play out.

Re: Football Townhall with Bates

PostPosted: Sun Feb 03, 2013 12:05 pm
by NotoriousOrange
eagle9903 {l Wrote}:
commavegarage {l Wrote}:
Mosi {l Wrote}:as I told one of the boys who wasn't at meeting after the hoop game, I felt 100% better about the direction of the program at 3:30 yesterday then I did at 9:30


theyre saying all the right things no question. now will they implement it?


I don't think we should give it time to play out.


You're right 9903.

60 days is more than enough time to declare the Bates Addazio experiment a complete and utter disaster - turn in our season tickets - ask about buy-outs for Daz and Bates - claim we predicted this epic level failure and whip our fellow board members into a hysterical lynch mob.

That just seems like the rational thing for a person who wants BC football to thrive to do.

Re: Football Townhall with Bates

PostPosted: Sun Feb 03, 2013 12:13 pm
by pick6pedro
NotoriousOrange {l Wrote}:
eagle9903 {l Wrote}:
commavegarage {l Wrote}:
Mosi {l Wrote}:as I told one of the boys who wasn't at meeting after the hoop game, I felt 100% better about the direction of the program at 3:30 yesterday then I did at 9:30


theyre saying all the right things no question. now will they implement it?


I don't think we should give it time to play out.


You're right 9903.

60 days is more than enough time to declare the Bates Addazio experiment a complete and utter disaster - turn in our season tickets - ask about buy-outs for Daz and Bates - claim we predicted this epic level failure and whip our fellow board members into a hysterical lynch mob.

That just seems like the rational thing for a person who wants BC football to thrive to do.


Thanks Rothliesburger.

Re: Football Townhall with Bates

PostPosted: Sun Feb 03, 2013 12:35 pm
by NotoriousOrange
pick6pedro {l Wrote}:
NotoriousOrange {l Wrote}:
eagle9903 {l Wrote}:
commavegarage {l Wrote}:
Mosi {l Wrote}:as I told one of the boys who wasn't at meeting after the hoop game, I felt 100% better about the direction of the program at 3:30 yesterday then I did at 9:30


theyre saying all the right things no question. now will they implement it?


I don't think we should give it time to play out.


You're right 9903.

60 days is more than enough time to declare the Bates Addazio experiment a complete and utter disaster - turn in our season tickets - ask about buy-outs for Daz and Bates - claim we predicted this epic level failure and whip our fellow board members into a hysterical lynch mob.

That just seems like the rational thing for a person who wants BC football to thrive to do.


Thanks Rothliesburger.


PsP I didn't get the Rothliesburger reference. Can you hook a brother up with an insult explanation?

Re: Football Townhall with Bates

PostPosted: Sun Feb 03, 2013 1:15 pm
by DomingoOrtiz
commavegarage {l Wrote}:
DavidGordonsFoot {l Wrote}:
claver2010 {l Wrote}:
31southst {l Wrote}:Overall the thing made me think more of Bates and about the same with Daz.

Bates clearly gives a crap and wants to make game day a better experience. The staffer at my table also made a couple references to knowing about a lot of these problems for the last ten years (i.e., under Gene) and only now getting the green light to do something about it. I'm curious to see what if any changes are made in the fall and beyond.


Agreed.

I've met the master several times and he's impressed me every time. He gives a shit. From the AD employee at my table, I also got the impression that Gene burned a shit ton of bridges around Boston and now that he's gone we'll have more opportunities for improvement (they talked about Bates with a clean slate, etc.)


Were the words "clean slate" actually used? Because that would speak volumes about GDF and the things he claimed to be powerless about (tailgating hours, etc).


yes.

also, one minion i overheard said the following will likely happen:

1. parking on those cleveland circle fields
2. selling any extra parking on a game by game basis but at a premium to be fair to season ticket holders
3. beer garden on brighton campus to get around the no tailgating etc

i found the minions much nicer & more approachable than ever yesterday. cant tell if theyre just doing that to appease master bates or if thats how they actually are as people and gene sucked the life out of them.



1. What fields?
2. Great!
3. Great!

Re: Football Townhall with Bates

PostPosted: Sun Feb 03, 2013 1:41 pm
by basselope
prolly Chestnut Hill Park

Re: Football Townhall with Bates

PostPosted: Sun Feb 03, 2013 2:02 pm
by commavegarage
the softball fields - if youre going to bc from the city and driving on beacon st right after you pass cleveland circle on the left is a very big green space - theres at least two baseball fields. id say its close to shea's size.

Re: Football Townhall with Bates

PostPosted: Sun Feb 03, 2013 2:05 pm
by DomingoOrtiz
commavegarage {l Wrote}:the softball fields - if youre going to bc from the city and driving on beacon st right after you pass cleveland circle on the left is a very big green space - theres at least two baseball fields. id say its close to shea's size.



ok, have these ever been used for parking?

Re: Football Townhall with Bates

PostPosted: Sun Feb 03, 2013 2:08 pm
by commavegarage
DomingoOrtiz {l Wrote}:
commavegarage {l Wrote}:the softball fields - if youre going to bc from the city and driving on beacon st right after you pass cleveland circle on the left is a very big green space - theres at least two baseball fields. id say its close to shea's size.



ok, have these ever been used for parking?


not that im aware of, i heard him say theyre trying to do an arrangement of getting to use those for 7 saturdays a year in exchange for maintaining them the other 358 days.

Re: Football Townhall with Bates

PostPosted: Sun Feb 03, 2013 2:08 pm
by pick6pedro
NotoriousOrange {l Wrote}:
pick6pedro {l Wrote}:
NotoriousOrange {l Wrote}:
eagle9903 {l Wrote}:
commavegarage {l Wrote}:
Mosi {l Wrote}:as I told one of the boys who wasn't at meeting after the hoop game, I felt 100% better about the direction of the program at 3:30 yesterday then I did at 9:30


theyre saying all the right things no question. now will they implement it?


I don't think we should give it time to play out.


You're right 9903.

60 days is more than enough time to declare the Bates Addazio experiment a complete and utter disaster - turn in our season tickets - ask about buy-outs for Daz and Bates - claim we predicted this epic level failure and whip our fellow board members into a hysterical lynch mob.

That just seems like the rational thing for a person who wants BC football to thrive to do.


Thanks Rothliesburger.


PsP I didn't get the Rothliesburger reference. Can you hook a brother up with an insult explanation?


http://fakeconvos.com/view.php?id=54171

Re: Football Townhall with Bates

PostPosted: Sun Feb 03, 2013 2:12 pm
by claver2010
DomingoOrtiz {l Wrote}:
commavegarage {l Wrote}:the softball fields - if youre going to bc from the city and driving on beacon st right after you pass cleveland circle on the left is a very big green space - theres at least two baseball fields. id say its close to shea's size.



ok, have these ever been used for parking?


no, i think this issue is going to a huge struggle with the brighton moonbats but they're looking at several other places as well. either way, i got the impression we've seen the last of the needham lot

Re: Football Townhall with Bates

PostPosted: Sun Feb 03, 2013 2:35 pm
by h2o
Did he give a time frame for the new parking areas and will RV's and tailgating be allowed? Will the beer garden be up and running next season and will I be able to buy a beer in Alumni next year?

Re: Football Townhall with Bates

PostPosted: Sun Feb 03, 2013 3:06 pm
by NotoriousOrange
pick6pedro {l Wrote}:
NotoriousOrange {l Wrote}:
pick6pedro {l Wrote}:
NotoriousOrange {l Wrote}:
eagle9903 {l Wrote}:
commavegarage {l Wrote}:
Mosi {l Wrote}:as I told one of the boys who wasn't at meeting after the hoop game, I felt 100% better about the direction of the program at 3:30 yesterday then I did at 9:30


theyre saying all the right things no question. now will they implement it?


I don't think we should give it time to play out.


You're right 9903.

60 days is more than enough time to declare the Bates Addazio experiment a complete and utter disaster - turn in our season tickets - ask about buy-outs for Daz and Bates - claim we predicted this epic level failure and whip our fellow board members into a hysterical lynch mob.

That just seems like the rational thing for a person who wants BC football to thrive to do.


Thanks Rothliesburger.


PsP I didn't get the Rothliesburger reference. Can you hook a brother up with an insult explanation?


http://fakeconvos.com/view.php?id=54171


got it thx

Re: Football Townhall with Bates

PostPosted: Sun Feb 03, 2013 4:08 pm
by AdamBC
h2o {l Wrote}:Did he give a time frame for the new parking areas and will RV's and tailgating be allowed? Will the beer garden be up and running next season and will I be able to buy a beer in Alumni next year?


Many of these were said to be unlikely this fall, sounds like they've aiming for big changes the year after. Most depend how quickly they can negotiate changes in the Entertainment License they need for each game.

Re: Football Townhall with Bates

PostPosted: Sun Feb 03, 2013 11:45 pm
by ATLeagle
How did addazio's poem come off in the room?

Re: Football Townhall with Bates

PostPosted: Mon Feb 04, 2013 2:35 am
by PhillyandBCEagles
claver2010 {l Wrote}:
DomingoOrtiz {l Wrote}:
commavegarage {l Wrote}:the softball fields - if youre going to bc from the city and driving on beacon st right after you pass cleveland circle on the left is a very big green space - theres at least two baseball fields. id say its close to shea's size.



ok, have these ever been used for parking?


no, i think this issue is going to a huge struggle with the brighton moonbats but they're looking at several other places as well. either way, i got the impression we've seen the last of the needham lot


I've said in the past having a satellite lot in Needham isn't the worst thing in the world in and of itself (plenty of other schools have satellite lots nowhere near the stadium with busing to and from the lots--Notre Dame, for one), but they need to allow tailgating there.

Re: Football Townhall with Bates

PostPosted: Mon Feb 04, 2013 4:39 am
by Reverend Mike
Did anyone ask about spAdazzio's knee? Pretty insensitive if you didn't, in my opinion.

Re: Football Townhall with Bates

PostPosted: Mon Feb 04, 2013 8:20 am
by HJS
commavegarage {l Wrote}:
31southst {l Wrote}:
commavegarage {l Wrote}:also, for hjs, it seemed VERY apparent to me that daziani is here to run the ball.

i will say i gave him credit for saying "we will NOT be a bend but dont break defense"

also, it seemed very clear we will be having multiple defections before the season. ive heard directly from players (and recent grads) that his practices & the whole football experience is extremely extremely intense.


Did anyone think Daz was a touch offended by the recruiting QBs to his style of offense question? Sounded to me like he knew it was a reference to Boyle.


im sure he did and im sure he was.

while there were your typical dumbass questions, i was pleasantly surprised by the level of questions. some were pretty tough

Well... he's certain to be asked about it on LOI Day. You can't ignore that 4 of our 5 top rated verbals all de-committed. Combine that with the terrible recruiting job he did over the past 2+ months and you have the worst recruiting class in BC history.

Re: Football Townhall with Bates

PostPosted: Mon Feb 04, 2013 8:30 am
by 31southst
ATLeagle {l Wrote}:How did addazio's poem come off in the room?


I think the people who had already bought in to Daz liked it. I personally thought it was a little weird but whatever. I didn't notice anyone laughing at it or antyhing like that if that's what you mean.

Re: Football Townhall with Bates

PostPosted: Mon Feb 04, 2013 11:07 am
by chuckiedukes
Addazio is a used car salesman and meathead with little football intellect. His schitck will wear thin quickly.

I also question whether he "oozes character," as Brad Bates demanded, after Daz's treatment of Bernard Pierce at Temple and now Boyle at BC. Trashing a player because he decides to declare for the NFL Draft rather than help you win more football games is pretty low-class. It's also a good way to drive future recruits with NFL aspirations away from your regime.


http://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/nf ... y/1882631/