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Re: Sanity Restored...

PostPosted: Wed Mar 27, 2013 8:24 am
by DomingoOrtiz
DavidGordonsFoot {l Wrote}:
cvilleagle {l Wrote}:I really think it's just what viewers want to see. Although they are mostly idiots, Notre Dame fans are plentiful.


That and Teo is polarizing. The ND fanbase is large enough to offset the "haters," so covering Teo is going to get the two groups butting heads and talking about the story, which is ESPN's primary objective. Same goes for LeBron, Tiger, Tebow, and other sports figures ESPN chooses to give inordinate amounts of coverage to.


I understand that ND, like Duke basketball, is great for ratings as so many people have a strong opinion one way or the other. What I don't understand is the slobbering.
Also, the best example of an athlete that got/gets in inordinate amount of coverage from ESPN is TO.

Re: Sanity Restored...

PostPosted: Wed Mar 27, 2013 9:48 am
by b0mberMan
DomingoOrtiz {l Wrote}:Also, the best example of an athlete that got/gets in inordinate amount of coverage from ESPN is TO.

I think you're forgetting last year when ESPN sent a reporter up to Jets training camp to cover a backup QB that saw very little play sitting behind one of the worst starting QBs in the league. They even had a "Breaking: Tebow goes for shirtless run in the rain" headline as part of that.

Re: Sanity Restored...

PostPosted: Wed Mar 27, 2013 10:17 am
by DavidGordonsFoot
DomingoOrtiz {l Wrote}: What I don't understand is the slobbering.


Head over to ND Nation. What you interpret as slobbering, those guys interpret as an anti-ND agenda.

Re: Sanity Restored...

PostPosted: Wed Mar 27, 2013 10:32 am
by flyingelvii
Do people still hate Tiger Woods? I thought the time limit for the faux moral outrage over his transgressions has passed. He's always gotten more coverage because there's only two interesting guys in golf right now to the casual fan, one of which talks with a funny accent and the other of which is inconsistent, has man boobs and dresses in white pants like that uncle going through a midlife crisis.

Re: Sanity Restored...

PostPosted: Wed Mar 27, 2013 10:39 am
by b0mberMan
DavidGordonsFoot {l Wrote}:
DomingoOrtiz {l Wrote}: What I don't understand is the slobbering.


Head over to ND Nation. What you interpret as slobbering, those guys interpret as an anti-ND agenda.

That is an insane place where some people were genuinely convinced that ND went undefeated last year because Brian Kelly listened to their input on how to coach the team.

Re: Sanity Restored...

PostPosted: Wed Mar 27, 2013 10:56 am
by twballgame9
flyingelvii {l Wrote}:Do people still hate Tiger Woods? I thought the time limit for the faux moral outrage over his transgressions has passed. He's always gotten more coverage because there's only two interesting guys in golf right now to the casual fan, one of which talks with a funny accent and the other of which is inconsistent, has man boobs and dresses in white pants like that uncle going through a midlife crisis.


People hated Tiger Woods for reasons that had nothing to do with his marital transgressions. The guy is a giant prick on the golf course and is utterly unlikeable. He's also disliked because most people that aren't frontrunners hate teams/players that win all of the time. Finally, golf fans hate him because of the Greg Norman phenomenon - when he's down 10 strokes playing a hole 13 holes in front of the leaders, the camera coverage is on his bitching at his caddy instead of a shot from a leader that gets slipped in before commercial on tape delay.

Re: Sanity Restored...

PostPosted: Wed Mar 27, 2013 12:02 pm
by flyingelvii
twballgame9 {l Wrote}:
flyingelvii {l Wrote}:Do people still hate Tiger Woods? I thought the time limit for the faux moral outrage over his transgressions has passed. He's always gotten more coverage because there's only two interesting guys in golf right now to the casual fan, one of which talks with a funny accent and the other of which is inconsistent, has man boobs and dresses in white pants like that uncle going through a midlife crisis.


People hated Tiger Woods for reasons that had nothing to do with his marital transgressions. The guy is a giant prick on the golf course and is utterly unlikeable. He's also disliked because most people that aren't frontrunners hate teams/players that win all of the time. Finally, golf fans hate him because of the Greg Norman phenomenon - when he's down 10 strokes playing a hole 13 holes in front of the leaders, the camera coverage is on his bitching at his caddy instead of a shot from a leader that gets slipped in before commercial on tape delay.

Oh Jesus. This is some hipster-esque gold right here. Golf fans pretty much always love the frontrunner or someone that's close to the frontrunner unless that person is from Europe. This applies to pretty much any individual sport, with tennis being the best comparable (minus the Euro part) and other sports not so much because of the whole "Root for laundry" aspect, and especially does when the frontrunner in question is an all-time talent. Pretty much the only greats that weren't liked by the majority of the modern era were Faldo and Seve. Though I'm sure there are a handful of old-timers that hold a grudge against Arnie for him getting to know their significant others in the Biblical sense.

Regardless, your above has nothing to do with the faux outrage point since most people actually did/do like him but good for you for using this as a baseless jump off point. Now go put on your wire-rimmed glasses, hop on your fixie and head to the liquor store to pick up a sixer of PBR as you cheer on Ryan Moore because you've been following him since he was the low amateur at the Masters while still at UNLV.

Re: Sanity Restored...

PostPosted: Wed Mar 27, 2013 12:17 pm
by TobaccoRoadEagle
flyingelvii {l Wrote}:...He's always gotten more coverage ... the casual fan

teddy said it with more words but this is the reason that i dislike tiger woods. this and his childish, prickish antics that get blown off by the media except for one every 15 years

http://sports.yahoo.com/golf/pga/news?s ... per_040612

Re: Sanity Restored...

PostPosted: Wed Mar 27, 2013 12:28 pm
by twballgame9
flyingelvii {l Wrote}:
twballgame9 {l Wrote}:
flyingelvii {l Wrote}:Do people still hate Tiger Woods? I thought the time limit for the faux moral outrage over his transgressions has passed. He's always gotten more coverage because there's only two interesting guys in golf right now to the casual fan, one of which talks with a funny accent and the other of which is inconsistent, has man boobs and dresses in white pants like that uncle going through a midlife crisis.


People hated Tiger Woods for reasons that had nothing to do with his marital transgressions. The guy is a giant prick on the golf course and is utterly unlikeable. He's also disliked because most people that aren't frontrunners hate teams/players that win all of the time. Finally, golf fans hate him because of the Greg Norman phenomenon - when he's down 10 strokes playing a hole 13 holes in front of the leaders, the camera coverage is on his bitching at his caddy instead of a shot from a leader that gets slipped in before commercial on tape delay.

Oh Jesus. This is some hipster-esque gold right here. Golf fans pretty much always love the frontrunner or someone that's close to the frontrunner unless that person is from Europe. This applies to pretty much any individual sport, with tennis being the best comparable (minus the Euro part) and other sports not so much because of the whole "Root for laundry" aspect, and especially does when the frontrunner in question is an all-time talent. Pretty much the only greats that weren't liked by the majority of the modern era were Faldo and Seve. Though I'm sure there are a handful of old-timers that hold a grudge against Arnie for him getting to know their significant others in the Biblical sense.

Regardless, your above has nothing to do with the faux outrage point since most people actually did/do like him but good for you for using this as a baseless jump off point. Now go put on your wire-rimmed glasses, hop on your fixie and head to the liquor store to pick up a sixer of PBR as you cheer on Ryan Moore because you've been following him since he was the low amateur at the Masters while still at UNLV.


Actually, about half the fans like him and half hate him. Faux hipsters generally just root for him, with faux disbelief at why the rest don't like him.

I like Ryan Moore, but had no idea about the Masters part. I also like Phil Mickelson, in a Red Sox/Tin Cup kind of way. Also a big fan of other people that win once in a while and make the game interesting, like Bubba Watson. Hate Rickie Fowler and his stupid outfits.

Re: Sanity Restored...

PostPosted: Wed Mar 27, 2013 12:38 pm
by b0mberMan
I found Tiger kind of boring up until recently, mainly because he put everything in the fairway, on the green, and dropped his putts. Spectacularly dependable and predictable. Sure, I can appreciate the way he would lay fields to waste like he was playing a completely different golf course, but it wasn't necessarily interesting all the time. This new incarnation is kind of fun because he's only hitting about 50% of his fairways, so he has to challenge himself to get to the green more often than not.

This is why guys like Phil and Bubba are entertaining. Their undying faith and belief in their driver puts them in some pretty unique positions, and they both have unlimited creativity when it comes to getting out of those spots.

Re: Sanity Restored...

PostPosted: Wed Mar 27, 2013 12:54 pm
by DomingoOrtiz
twballgame9 {l Wrote}:
flyingelvii {l Wrote}:Do people still hate Tiger Woods? I thought the time limit for the faux moral outrage over his transgressions has passed. He's always gotten more coverage because there's only two interesting guys in golf right now to the casual fan, one of which talks with a funny accent and the other of which is inconsistent, has man boobs and dresses in white pants like that uncle going through a midlife crisis.


People hated Tiger Woods for reasons that had nothing to do with his marital transgressions. The guy is a giant prick on the golf course and is utterly unlikeable. He's also disliked because most people that aren't frontrunners hate teams/players that win all of the time. Finally, golf fans hate him because of the Greg Norman phenomenon - when he's down 10 strokes playing a hole 13 holes in front of the leaders, the camera coverage is on his bitching at his caddy instead of a shot from a leader that gets slipped in before commercial on tape delay.



This is spot on. I actually don't mind him now.

Re: Sanity Restored...

PostPosted: Wed Mar 27, 2013 1:02 pm
by flyingelvii
b0mberMan {l Wrote}:I found Tiger kind of boring up until recently, mainly because he put everything in the fairway, on the green, and dropped his putts. Spectacularly dependable and predictable. Sure, I can appreciate the way he would lay fields to waste like he was playing a completely different golf course, but it wasn't necessarily interesting all the time. This new incarnation is kind of fun because he's only hitting about 50% of his fairways, so he has to challenge himself to get to the green more often than not.

This is why guys like Phil and Bubba are entertaining. Their undying faith and belief in their driver puts them in some pretty unique positions, and they both have unlimited creativity when it comes to getting out of those spots.

He's actually hitting the fairway at the same rate as he always has, which is not well. It's just that his putter is finally back and he's rolling clutch putts again.

The Masters low amateur has randomly made me fans of Ryan Moore and Casey Wittenberg. That blonde dude who finished second or third in the US Open a couple years ago while wearing that funny looking hat seemed like too much of a douche. Phil just seems like a phony dude that puts on a face for media fellatio after he puts up a snowman to blow a tourney.

Re: Sanity Restored...

PostPosted: Wed Mar 27, 2013 1:47 pm
by twballgame9
flyingelvii {l Wrote}:
b0mberMan {l Wrote}:I found Tiger kind of boring up until recently, mainly because he put everything in the fairway, on the green, and dropped his putts. Spectacularly dependable and predictable. Sure, I can appreciate the way he would lay fields to waste like he was playing a completely different golf course, but it wasn't necessarily interesting all the time. This new incarnation is kind of fun because he's only hitting about 50% of his fairways, so he has to challenge himself to get to the green more often than not.

This is why guys like Phil and Bubba are entertaining. Their undying faith and belief in their driver puts them in some pretty unique positions, and they both have unlimited creativity when it comes to getting out of those spots.

He's actually hitting the fairway at the same rate as he always has, which is not well. It's just that his putter is finally back and he's rolling clutch putts again.

The Masters low amateur has randomly made me fans of Ryan Moore and Casey Wittenberg. That blonde dude who finished second or third in the US Open a couple years ago while wearing that funny looking hat seemed like too much of a douche. Phil just seems like a phony dude that puts on a face for media fellatio after he puts up a snowman to blow a tourney.


Ricky Barnes.

Re: Sanity Restored...

PostPosted: Wed Mar 27, 2013 1:59 pm
by twballgame9
It's pretty simple for me after watching him Tiger at Bethpage, Winged Foot and Shinnecock - he's just a flaming douchebag.

Re: Sanity Restored...

PostPosted: Wed Mar 27, 2013 3:09 pm
by flyingelvii
As are most athletes. Not exactly news here.

Re: Sanity Restored...

PostPosted: Wed Mar 27, 2013 5:43 pm
by hansen
flyingelvii {l Wrote}:As are most athletes. Not exactly news here.


especially Justin Verlander.

Re: Sanity Restored...

PostPosted: Wed Mar 27, 2013 6:21 pm
by TobaccoRoadEagle
hansen {l Wrote}:
flyingelvii {l Wrote}:As are most athletes. Not exactly news here.


especially Justin Verlander.

and that locker room cancer aaron ward

Re: Sanity Restored...

PostPosted: Tue Apr 23, 2013 12:09 pm
by MilitantEagle
Te'o off at least one team's draft board. It will be interesting to see when he gets selected. I would be shocked if he goes in the first round.

http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/blog/eye-o ... raft-board

Re: Sanity Restored...

PostPosted: Tue Apr 23, 2013 12:15 pm
by DavidGordonsFoot
MilitantEagle {l Wrote}:Te'o off at least one team's draft board. It will be interesting to see when he gets selected. I would be shocked if he goes in the first round.

http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/blog/eye-o ... raft-board


I fully expect him to go in the first round even though he is not first round talent. Woody Johnson could squeeze a lot of NY Post back covers out of such a move...

Re: Sanity Restored...

PostPosted: Mon Oct 07, 2013 10:31 am
by Endless Mike

Re: Sanity Restored...

PostPosted: Sun Sep 13, 2015 12:24 pm
by Endless Mike
Yesterday was the 3-year anniversary of Lennay Kekua's death. No doubt her memory gave Notre Dame that extra motivation against UVA. Please keep Lennay in your thoughts.