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34B posted it, but it's not the VT depth chart and deserves it's own thread

OFFENSE
LT 77 Emmett Cleary (6-7, 313, Sr.)
71 Dan Lembke (6-7, 286, R-Fr.)

LG 76 Bobby Vardaro (6-5, 312, So.)
64 Harris Williams (6-4, 301, So.)

C 59 Andy Gallik (6-3, 300, So.)
69 Paul Gaughan (6-6, 287, R-Fr.)

RG 67 Seth Betancourt (6-6, 304, So.)
60 Bryan Davis (6-3, 289, Jr.)

RT 73 John Wetzel (6-8, 302, Sr.)
70 Aaron Kramer (6-7, 292, So.)

TE 81 Chris Pantale (6-6, 255, Sr.)
88 Mike Giacone (6-5, 246, Fr.)
or 87 C.J. Parsons (6-6, 265, So.)

QB 11 Chase Rettig (6-3, 213, Jr.)
15 Dave Shinskie (6-4, 209, Sr.)

RB 26 David Dudeck (6-0, 195, Fr.)
28 Rolandan Finch (5-10, 211, Jr.)

WR 83 Alex Amidon (5-11, 186, Jr.)
4 Donte Elliott (6-0, 197, Sr.)

WR 14 Johnathan Coleman (6-4, 228, Jr.)
18 Dan Crimmins (6-5, 220, Fr.)

WR 7 Spiff y Evans (6-0, 184, So.)
1 Colin Larmond Jr. (6-3, 202, Sr.)

FB 41 Jake Sinkovec (6-4, 237, Jr.)
or 89 Mike Naples (6-4, 237, Jr.)

DEFENSE
DE 45 Mehdi Abdesmad (6-6, 270, So.)
89 Malachi Moore (6-7, 250, Fr.)

LT 98 Max Ricci (6-4, 302, So.)
95 Dominic Appiah (6-5, 291, So.)

RT 93 Bryan Murray (6-2, 299, Sr.)
55 Kieran Borcich (6-3, 264, R-Fr.)

DE 91 Kasim Edebali (6-2, 258, Jr.)
99 Brian Mihalik (6-8, 285, So.)

SLB 49 Steele Divitto (6-3, 226, Jr.)
35 Andre Lawrence (6-1, 229, Jr.)

MLB 54 Nick Clancy (6-3, 232, Sr.)
48 Nick Lifka (6-2, 242, R-Fr.)

WLB 24 Kevin Pierre-Louis (6-1, 215, Jr.)
34 Sean Duggan (6-4, 228, So.)

FC 21 Manuel Asprilla (5-10, 167, So.)
17 Bryce Jones (6-0, 170, Fr.)

SS 43 Spenser Rositano (6-1, 200, So.)
23 Jim Noel (6-4, 185, Sr.)

FS 27 Justin Simmons (6-3, 175, Fr.)
25 Josh Keyes (6-2, 208, So.)

BC 19 Sean Sylvia (6-0, 204, So.)
38 Ted Davenport (6-2, 209, So.)

SPECIALISTS
K 85 Nate Freese (6-0, 185, Jr.)
42 Alex Howell (6-5, 202, R-Fr.)

P 32 Gerald Levano (6-2, 201, Sr.)
42 Alex Howell (6-5, 202, R-Fr.)

S 57 Sean Flaherty (6-2, 223, Sr.)
15 Dave Shinskie (6-4, 209, Sr.)

Hold 32 Gerald Levano (6-2, 201, Sr.)
42 Alex Howell (6-5, 202, R-Fr.)

PR 7 Spiff y Evans (6-0, 184, So.)
17 Bryce Jones (6-0, 170, Fr.)

KR 7 Spiff y Evans (6-0, 184, So.)
17 Bryce Jones (6-0, 170, Fr.)

Several things:
1) Is coach fuckface really going to give shinskie reps?
2) Dudeck over Finch is comical
3) If anyone wants to listen to Spaz's Sunday presser it's 888-266-2081 passcode: 751131 (it's only about 10 minutes). Unbelievable that Spaz's butt buddy Blauds, the Globe and the Herald didn't ask about the final drive in regulation. Kudos to the heights sports editor for asking the question.

Noel back up at SS behind Rositano (whom Noel, despite his struggles, is much better). The one guy on this team who publicly supports Spaz still gets tossed in the doghouse for no reason in his last game at BC. This week cant get over fast enough.

As for the shinskie thing, im very meh about that. For all UD's limitations, he still was serviceable for a year (obv on #2's back) but I dont have a problem with him getting some burn to end his career. When TOB and Dana are nursing a 30+ lead heading into the 4th I have no problem getting chase out of their so he doesnt get his head ripped off.

Just curious, anyone know a thing about Ted Davenport, Sylvia's backup? Can he play a lick? Despite trying to channel Jaime Silva via his locks, Sylvia is one player who, through no fault of his own, is a D2 player woefully overmatched at this level. The TD last week was a classic example. Davenport is two inches taller by the book, but i don't think he has seen the field much, if at all. That is one position where for the life of me, I can't understand why we don't try any other warm body.

We have a plan, y'know? It's, uh...we put the players we think can succeed out there and hopefully make plays. It's on them at this point. Like I say to my captains...uh, guys make a play or something. Tell other people to make da plays. It's football...this ain't no rocket scientology with buns and burners, am I right?

Benching jim noel in his last game as an eagle. If I still cared this would bother me.

eagletx {l Wrote}:Just curious, anyone know a thing about Ted Davenport, Sylvia's backup? Can he play a lick? Despite trying to channel Jaime Silva via his locks, Sylvia is one player who, through no fault of his own, is a D2 player woefully overmatched at this level. The TD last week was a classic example. Davenport is two inches taller by the book, but i don't think he has seen the field much, if at all. That is one position where for the life of me, I can't understand why we don't try any other warm body.

Sylvia is not a D2 player. The "best coach in 15 years" is playing him out of position. He is much better suited at safety, especially when in 1 on 1 coverage with legitimate players (as VT has because they care and recruit) at WR. Davenport is not the answer because he is 2 inches taller. The only difference is if Davenport was in coverage on that particular play, the WR would ave been 10 yards wide open instead of having to make a catch with Sylvia in his face.


Even with ALJ back, the recruiting in the CB position has been bad and there is no depth. Even with a 10 yard cushion, safeties just arent athletic enough to cover good WRs stride for stride.

and of course Dudek over Duece. this is run like a tee ball team.

eagletx {l Wrote}:Just curious, anyone know a thing about Ted Davenport, Sylvia's backup? Can he play a lick? Despite trying to channel Jaime Silva via his locks, Sylvia is one player who, through no fault of his own, is a D2 player woefully overmatched at this level. The TD last week was a classic example. Davenport is two inches taller by the book, but i don't think he has seen the field much, if at all. That is one position where for the life of me, I can't understand why we don't try any other warm body.

Davenport was a walk-on who was given a schollie at the beginning of this year.

BCSUPERFAN22 {l Wrote}:

eagletx {l Wrote}:Just curious, anyone know a thing about Ted Davenport, Sylvia's backup? Can he play a lick? Despite trying to channel Jaime Silva via his locks, Sylvia is one player who, through no fault of his own, is a D2 player woefully overmatched at this level. The TD last week was a classic example. Davenport is two inches taller by the book, but i don't think he has seen the field much, if at all. That is one position where for the life of me, I can't understand why we don't try any other warm body.

Sylvia is not a D2 player. The "best coach in 15 years" is playing him out of position. He is much better suited at safety, especially when in 1 on 1 coverage with legitimate players (as VT has because they care and recruit) at WR. Davenport is not the answer because he is 2 inches taller. The only difference is if Davenport was in coverage on that particular play, the WR would ave been 10 yards wide open instead of having to make a catch with Sylvia in his face.


Even with ALJ back, the recruiting in the CB position has been bad and there is no depth. Even with a 10 yard cushion, safeties just arent athletic enough to cover good WRs stride for stride.

That's one thing that will be a big problem going forward. I imagine we'll hire a coach who is willing to play more than 2 CBs at times, and we simply don't have enough talent there. ALJ should be legit but that's more of a guess than proven. I think Manny Asprilla is solid but it's hard to tell with the cushion. CJ Jones looked good before he got hurt but he hasn't played much at all this year. Besides those three (none of whom is particuarly proven), we have a bunch of inexperienced and lightly regarded guys at corner. Safety is a little better as Sylvia and Simmons should hopefully be serviceable and Matt Milano (if he sticks) at least had other BCS offers. Plus, you generally don't go quite as deep at S as at CB.

31southst {l Wrote}:

BCSUPERFAN22 {l Wrote}:

eagletx {l Wrote}:Just curious, anyone know a thing about Ted Davenport, Sylvia's backup? Can he play a lick? Despite trying to channel Jaime Silva via his locks, Sylvia is one player who, through no fault of his own, is a D2 player woefully overmatched at this level. The TD last week was a classic example. Davenport is two inches taller by the book, but i don't think he has seen the field much, if at all. That is one position where for the life of me, I can't understand why we don't try any other warm body.

Sylvia is not a D2 player. The "best coach in 15 years" is playing him out of position. He is much better suited at safety, especially when in 1 on 1 coverage with legitimate players (as VT has because they care and recruit) at WR. Davenport is not the answer because he is 2 inches taller. The only difference is if Davenport was in coverage on that particular play, the WR would ave been 10 yards wide open instead of having to make a catch with Sylvia in his face.


Even with ALJ back, the recruiting in the CB position has been bad and there is no depth. Even with a 10 yard cushion, safeties just arent athletic enough to cover good WRs stride for stride.

That's one thing that will be a big problem going forward. I imagine we'll hire a coach who is willing to play more than 2 CBs at times, and we simply don't have enough talent there. ALJ should be legit but that's more of a guess than proven. I think Manny Asprilla is solid but it's hard to tell with the cushion. CJ Jones looked good before he got hurt but he hasn't played much at all this year. Besides those three (none of whom is particuarly proven), we have a bunch of inexperienced and lightly regarded guys at corner. Safety is a little better as Sylvia and Simmons should hopefully be serviceable and Matt Milano (if he sticks) at least had other BCS offers. Plus, you generally don't go quite as deep at S as at CB.

This is where a normal coach would convert some WRs who can't catch or stick LBs in the face of slot guys to knock the piss out of them off the snap. It's not an optimal solution for every situation, but it's better than the lazy "well, we practiced it this way since 19diggity-five" method.

pick6pedro {l Wrote}:

31southst {l Wrote}:

BCSUPERFAN22 {l Wrote}:

eagletx {l Wrote}:Just curious, anyone know a thing about Ted Davenport, Sylvia's backup? Can he play a lick? Despite trying to channel Jaime Silva via his locks, Sylvia is one player who, through no fault of his own, is a D2 player woefully overmatched at this level. The TD last week was a classic example. Davenport is two inches taller by the book, but i don't think he has seen the field much, if at all. That is one position where for the life of me, I can't understand why we don't try any other warm body.

Sylvia is not a D2 player. The "best coach in 15 years" is playing him out of position. He is much better suited at safety, especially when in 1 on 1 coverage with legitimate players (as VT has because they care and recruit) at WR. Davenport is not the answer because he is 2 inches taller. The only difference is if Davenport was in coverage on that particular play, the WR would ave been 10 yards wide open instead of having to make a catch with Sylvia in his face.


Even with ALJ back, the recruiting in the CB position has been bad and there is no depth. Even with a 10 yard cushion, safeties just arent athletic enough to cover good WRs stride for stride.

That's one thing that will be a big problem going forward. I imagine we'll hire a coach who is willing to play more than 2 CBs at times, and we simply don't have enough talent there. ALJ should be legit but that's more of a guess than proven. I think Manny Asprilla is solid but it's hard to tell with the cushion. CJ Jones looked good before he got hurt but he hasn't played much at all this year. Besides those three (none of whom is particuarly proven), we have a bunch of inexperienced and lightly regarded guys at corner. Safety is a little better as Sylvia and Simmons should hopefully be serviceable and Matt Milano (if he sticks) at least had other BCS offers. Plus, you generally don't go quite as deep at S as at CB.

This is where a normal coach would convert some WRs who can't catch or stick LBs in the face of slot guys to knock the piss out of them off the snap. It's not an optimal solution for every situation, but it's better than the lazy "well, we practiced it this way since 19diggity-five" method.

I wore an onion on my belt, which was the style at the time.

The first real football coach this program sees in 5 years will immediately recruit the 5 fastest DBs he can find and bring the defense into the 20th century with newfangled gimmicks like "nickel" and "dime". If I have to see Nick Clancy and Steele DiVitto covering FSU slot receivers in a 5-wide set on 3rd and 8 one more time, I am going to become homicidal.

twballgame9 {l Wrote}:The first real football coach this program sees in 5 years will immediately recruit the 5 fastest DBs he can find and bring the defense into the 20th century with newfangled gimmicks like "nickel" and "dime". If I have to see Nick Clancy and Steele DiVitto covering FSU slot receivers in a 5-wide set on 3rd and 8 one more time, I am going to become homicidal.

Homicidal? you should try smashing your own face through a wall. It seems to work for me.

twballgame9 {l Wrote}:The first real football coach this program sees in 5 years will immediately recruit the 5 fastest DBs he can find and bring the defense into the 20th century with newfangled gimmicks like "nickel" and "dime". If I have to see Nick Clancy and Steele DiVitto covering FSU slot receivers in a 5-wide set on 3rd and 8 one more time, I am going to become homicidal.

100% agree with this. When we have a real coach who starts bringing in talent like most of the top 25 teams in this country, we are going to act,Ike it's the second coming of Christ because our expectations have been beaten to shit.

FWIW, I really like Divitto and think he is a good player, but to your point, like many on this team, are totally out of position and set up for failure. Clancy infuriates me. You can see how much shit he talks on the field/the way he acts after routine plays, when the fact is he misses more tackles than anyone out there and bites on the smallest cuts. Just another unfortunate deficiency of Spazball, that a more talented player (Duggan) is stuck behind Clancy.

What happened to Daniels? Didn't he start last week and now is not even on the 2-deep? Did he get hurt?

Cadillac90 {l Wrote}:What happened to Daniels? Didn't he start last week and now is not even on the 2-deep? Did he get hurt?

I've seen him pretty consistently on special teams. I wouldn't read into it. He could very well be the best LB on this team and we would never know thanks to

claver2010 {l Wrote}:34B posted it, but it's not the VT depth chart and deserves it's own thread

devolumize

Several things:
1) Is coach fuckface really going to give shinskie reps?
2) Dudeck over Finch is comical
3) If anyone wants to listen to Spaz's Sunday presser it's 888-266-2081 passcode: 751131 (it's only about 10 minutes). Unbelievable that Spaz's butt buddy Blauds, the Globe and the Herald didn't ask about the final drive in regulation. Kudos to the heights sports editor for asking the question.

Claver - I had seen that the deck chairs was your "thing" so I posted the link elsewhere figuring you would repost as its own thread.

I like that Spaz may be giving Uncle Dave a few send off reps. Why not? Just hope he can find the center for the snap.

BCSUPERFAN22 {l Wrote}:

Cadillac90 {l Wrote}:What happened to Daniels? Didn't he start last week and now is not even on the 2-deep? Did he get hurt?

I've seen him pretty consistently on special teams. I wouldn't read into it. He could very well be the best LB on this team and we would never know thanks to

He did play at LB last week and I did not notice hum get hurt. He looks very slow out there.

pick6pedro {l Wrote}:This is where a normal coach would convert some WRs who can't catch

Paging IFFY. Paging IFFY Evans. Please report to the defense immediately.

b0mberMan {l Wrote}:

eagletx {l Wrote}:Just curious, anyone know a thing about Ted Davenport, Sylvia's backup? Can he play a lick? Despite trying to channel Jaime Silva via his locks, Sylvia is one player who, through no fault of his own, is a D2 player woefully overmatched at this level. The TD last week was a classic example. Davenport is two inches taller by the book, but i don't think he has seen the field much, if at all. That is one position where for the life of me, I can't understand why we don't try any other warm body.

Davenport was a walk-on who was given a schollie at the beginning of this year.

He's from Medway and was all Tri Valley as a RB there when they were battling Medfield and Holliston for league titles a few years back. He was an FCS level player out of HS, recruited by the Huntington Avenue Hounds and given a scholie until they killed the program so he was free to go where he wanted. Walked on at BC and got a full ride last spring. He is a redshirt sophomore as his class is really the current crop of juniors. Probably a special teamer and can play a series now and then but he is not BCS quality at all. The secondary at BC is a total wasteland.

Mod34b {l Wrote}:

claver2010 {l Wrote}:34B posted it, but it's not the VT depth chart and deserves it's own thread

devolumize

Several things:
1) Is coach fuckface really going to give shinskie reps?
2) Dudeck over Finch is comical
3) If anyone wants to listen to Spaz's Sunday presser it's 888-266-2081 passcode: 751131 (it's only about 10 minutes). Unbelievable that Spaz's butt buddy Blauds, the Globe and the Herald didn't ask about the final drive in regulation. Kudos to the heights sports editor for asking the question.

Claver - I had seen that the deck chairs was your "thing" so I posted the link elsewhere figuring you would repost as its own thread.

I like that Spaz may be giving Uncle Dave a few send off reps. Why not? Just hope he can find the center for the snap.

Appreciated.

Mod34b {l Wrote}:
I like that Spaz may be giving Uncle Dave a few send off reps. Why not?

Because then they couldn't offer him a fifth year. As long as he doesn't play Saturday, UD will have a year of eligibility remaining.

Bring back Spaz!

DavidGordonsFoot {l Wrote}:

Mod34b {l Wrote}:
I like that Spaz may be giving Uncle Dave a few send off reps. Why not?

Because then they couldn't offer him a fifth year. As long as he doesn't play Saturday, UD will have a year of eligibility remaining.

I hope this doesn't happen. For all the shit he's gone through under , UD deserves the opportunity to get in another year of school (and hopefully to be a solid locker room presence).

Mod34b {l Wrote}:

claver2010 {l Wrote}:34B posted it, but it's not the VT depth chart and deserves it's own thread

devolumize

Several things:
1) Is coach fuckface really going to give shinskie reps?
2) Dudeck over Finch is comical
3) If anyone wants to listen to Spaz's Sunday presser it's 888-266-2081 passcode: 751131 (it's only about 10 minutes). Unbelievable that Spaz's butt buddy Blauds, the Globe and the Herald didn't ask about the final drive in regulation. Kudos to the heights sports editor for asking the question.

Claver - I had seen that the deck chairs was your "thing" so I posted the link elsewhere figuring you would repost as its own thread.

I like that Spaz may be giving Uncle Dave a few send off reps. Why not? Just hope he can find the center for the snap.

What happened to Suntrup? Shouldn't he be getting the reps behind Retig? Get him some experience.

DavidGordonsFoot {l Wrote}:

Mod34b {l Wrote}:
I like that Spaz may be giving Uncle Dave a few send off reps. Why not?

Because then they couldn't offer him a fifth year. As long as he doesn't play Saturday, UD will have a year of eligibility remaining.

Why would they want to give Shinskie another year?

He is not needed at all. Better for BC to say "Thanks Dave, see ya" and use the schollie for a better purpose. Our new coach will need as many schollies as possible to rebuild. So play Shinskie!

gallopingghost {l Wrote}:

Mod34b {l Wrote}:

claver2010 {l Wrote}:34B posted it, but it's not the VT depth chart and deserves it's own thread

devolumize

Several things:
1) Is coach fuckface really going to give shinskie reps?
2) Dudeck over Finch is comical
3) If anyone wants to listen to Spaz's Sunday presser it's 888-266-2081 passcode: 751131 (it's only about 10 minutes). Unbelievable that Spaz's butt buddy Blauds, the Globe and the Herald didn't ask about the final drive in regulation. Kudos to the heights sports editor for asking the question.

Claver - I had seen that the deck chairs was your "thing" so I posted the link elsewhere figuring you would repost as its own thread.

I like that Spaz may be giving Uncle Dave a few send off reps. Why not? Just hope he can find the center for the snap.

What happened to Suntrup? Shouldn't he be getting the reps behind Retig? Get him some experience.

Is Suntrup a bust?

Mod34b {l Wrote}:

DavidGordonsFoot {l Wrote}:

Mod34b {l Wrote}:
I like that Spaz may be giving Uncle Dave a few send off reps. Why not?

Because then they couldn't offer him a fifth year. As long as he doesn't play Saturday, UD will have a year of eligibility remaining.

Why would they want to give Shinskie another year?

For depth. You never know what might happen. Remember, the 2012 class didn't have a QB. And you can't count on the current 2013 commits until you get their LOIs in February.

At least leave the decision up to the new coach.

As for the Suntrup bust talk, don't know where that notion comes from. Based off what 3 passes in a spring game?

claver2010 {l Wrote}:As for the Suntrup bust talk, don't know where that notion comes from. Based off what 3 passes in a spring game?

It comes from 3 passes in the spring game and rumors posted by HomoJS and rktbrkr during camp last summer. Hardly justification for the bust label.