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Re: Maryland may actually be leaving the ACC

Postby DavidGordonsFoot on Fri Aug 24, 2018 12:12 pm

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Re: Maryland may actually be leaving the ACC

Postby HJS on Mon Oct 29, 2018 10:48 am

TontoKowalski wrote:
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TontoKowalski wrote:The irony is that both UMBC and UMD-Baltimore are competently administered (UMBC exceptionally so) and somehow the merger's shots were all called by UMD-CP, with state backing. I'm against it over the long term... UMD's professional schools in Baltimore (law, medicine, nursing, dentistry, etc) were all doing fine without Wallace Loh involved.

Is that really suprising? "Competently admistered" is code word for "performance-based" and "fiscally responsibe"... realiities that can be regularly ignored by utopian college administrators and governments laden with Democratic Socialists.


No surprise at all - UM-Baltimore has a much tighter focus and while the med school has research affiliations, it's prestige is from the high quality of the practicing physicians it produces (top 25 med school for clinical for years - nowhere to be found on research) - the focus is on education, not bullshit. It also helps that having Hopkins across town means that there's almost no point in gunning for top 25 in research; but if you notice, that's all that assclown Loh talks about. Research and dollars.

UMD medicine has been around a loooooong time - there's a professor there named Milford Foxwell who tells hilarious stories from the school's history, like when the med school used to pay disreputable grave-robbers for corpses and a mob of Baltimorons once showed up, stormed the med school, and stole cadavers to bury them back in the ground because supposedly someone's wife had been lifted. In an era when schools are anointing themselves with phony histories, UMD medicine actually has a real history worth discussing. Makes the affiliation with College Park's bullshit all the more execrable.

UMBC consistently punches way above its weight class in places where it cares to. Hrabowski, by contrast to Loh, is the real deal and Freeman should be running the entire UMD system. Would cost a lot less and put a lot of admins back on the street where they belong while focusing on improving the quality of the education.

Sounding like Loh, Evans and Durkin all have their heads on the chopping block.
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Not enough bad things can happen to that program (and Loh).
Loh always represented everything wrong with the administration of Academic institutions... an over-educated career student being put in charge of a major corporation.
Evans is being blindsided by this. He has no idea how he can be fired when red panties haven't yet surfaced.
Durkin is just a coach. I don't think he did anything different than any other coach. He hired a hardass as a S&C guy who wound up pushing a kid beyond his limits. I'm surprised it doesn't happen more often. I wouldn't mind him reconnecting with Daz and replacing Reid.
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Re: Maryland may actually be leaving the ACC

Postby TontoKowalski on Mon Oct 29, 2018 12:14 pm

That article's source's fear-peddling makes it sound like the board is going to fire individual professors - pretty sure no professors have assigned any work that resulted in someone's death. I don't think the professors have anything to worry about.

Dinich has some former affiliation with the state of MD - I think she lived in or is from or married a dude from Annapolis. I'm sure her source is someone close to Loh. Maybe Evans.

Pitching that imbecile Loh out the window is a great first step. Not sure about Evans. Durkin probably has to go for PR reasons, whether or not he's any materially different from any other fb coach or s&c regimes.

Coming from someone who runs shit-tons of miles just an hour up the road, Maryland in August, especially around DC, is an awful place to be outside doing anything more strenuous than sitting in the shade. It's hot as balls, the air quality is like breathing in wet dogshit, and as much as we laugh at Toby's humidity issues, you sweat as soon as you step outside. Twenty minutes after the sun rises and the entire DC area feels like diving into a crock pot that's been cooking beans for hours. I leave well before sunrise for any run farther than 20mi and I have jumped in the Gunpowder river, sneakers and all, to cool off in the middle of a run. Why doesn't this happen every other day in places like LSU, Auburn, TAMU, etc., I don't know - but Maryland's summer climate is awful for anyone with any sensitivity to heating, pulmonary, or cardio issues.

Wonder how many hits the sport can take before parents curb the participation rates at lower levels.

In closing, Loh is a jackass and shouldn't be trusted with anything more substantial than collecting tickets in a coat closet.
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Re: Maryland may actually be leaving the ACC

Postby b0mberMan on Mon Oct 29, 2018 12:30 pm

TontoKowalski wrote:Dinich has some former affiliation with the state of MD.


Her and blog boy used to meet at Brown's Motel on the outskirts of Ellicot City and ravage each other's awkward, hairy bodies twice a week.
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Re: Maryland may actually be leaving the ACC

Postby TobaccoRoadEagle on Mon Oct 29, 2018 12:38 pm

b0mberMan wrote:
TontoKowalski wrote:Dinich has some former affiliation with the state of MD.


Her and blog boy used to meet at Brown's Motel on the outskirts of Ellicot City and ravage each other's awkward, hairy bodies twice a week.

i thought they didn't do much more than just some necking...
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Re: Maryland may actually be leaving the ACC

Postby TontoKowalski on Mon Oct 29, 2018 12:45 pm

b0mberMan wrote:
TontoKowalski wrote:Dinich has some former affiliation with the state of MD.


Her and blog boy used to meet at Brown's Motel on the outskirts of Ellicot City and ravage each other's awkward, hairy bodies twice a week.


That's pretty upscale - why pay by the night when you could go east to Edgewood and pay by the hour instead?
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Re: Maryland may actually be leaving the ACC

Postby HJS on Tue Oct 30, 2018 1:47 pm

Looks like Loh will retired (which is funny for an academic who never worked a day in his life). Durkin and RedPantiesLover look safe for now.
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Re: Maryland may actually be leaving the ACC

Postby claver2010 on Tue Oct 30, 2018 2:58 pm

that school is going to great lengths to protect a below average coach
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Re: Maryland may actually be leaving the ACC

Postby Tom Dooder on Tue Oct 30, 2018 3:33 pm

Read Loh's retirement as a resignation. It's classic higher education. Loh is effectively out today.
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Re: Maryland may actually be leaving the ACC

Postby claver2010 on Tue Oct 30, 2018 4:16 pm

several players walked out after it was announced he's coming back so this is going well
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Re: Maryland may actually be leaving the ACC

Postby 2001Eagle on Wed Oct 31, 2018 8:50 am

Explain it to 2001eagle: how the fuck did they decide to bring durkin back?
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Re: Maryland may actually be leaving the ACC

Postby Supahfan99 on Wed Oct 31, 2018 9:01 am

What a shithole of a university.

Is Durkin even that good of a coach to go to such lengths for the Board of Regents to pull a power play on the president such as this?
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Re: Maryland may actually be leaving the ACC

Postby eagle33 on Wed Oct 31, 2018 10:35 am

Looks like things are going to heat up even more. Students organizing a protest on Durkin;s return.

http://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/25133811/maryland-student-government-protest-dj-durkin-reinstatement
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Re: Maryland may actually be leaving the ACC

Postby claver2010 on Wed Oct 31, 2018 11:37 am

yeah that program is in complete chaos with players walking out of his meetings and others publicly trashing the decision

i'd say it's time to pick at the carcass of their recruiting class there's only a little overlap, they have the 2nd worst class in b1g (247 ranks even rutgres higher)
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Re: Maryland may actually be leaving the ACC

Postby Dick Rosenthal on Wed Oct 31, 2018 6:38 pm

claver2010 wrote:yeah that program is in complete chaos with players walking out of his meetings and others publicly trashing the decision

i'd say it's time to pick at the carcass of their recruiting class there's only a little overlap, they have the 2nd worst class in b1g (247 ranks even rutgres higher)


Talking to a couple of plugged in UMD grads today. The bottom line is that Durkin is back because he didn’t do anything wrong and most of the stories planted with Dinich about him were the work of a few locker room cancers. Apparently, a lot of the kids really like him a lot, thought he got a raw deal and told people they’d walk if he was canned. Let’s just say the pro-Durkin camp was larger and far more talented then the anti-Durkin camp. I think this fact was acknowledged by one of the parents of the leader of the anti-Durkin camp, but I can’t seem to find the article.

The most succinct thing I heard today was “the kids who will walk because they hate Durkin will at best be playing in the MAC and mostly in the CAA. The kids who would have walked if we canned Durkin would have largely ended up at other P5 conferences. The whole thing is a mess.”
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Re: Maryland may actually be leaving the ACC

Postby Dick Rosenthal on Wed Oct 31, 2018 6:41 pm

Apparently they decided to blow the whole thing up. Durkin just got canned.
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Re: Maryland may actually be leaving the ACC

Postby Supahfan99 on Wed Oct 31, 2018 7:06 pm

This is Schiano at Tennessee all over again. Crazy.

The court of public opinion rules in some cases.
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Re: Maryland may actually be leaving the ACC

Postby twballgame9 on Wed Oct 31, 2018 7:15 pm

Eh, don't understand bothering for a shitty football coach. But once you do, stand your ground.

Great message to send the students. Stand your ground until a vocal minority call you a bad person, then agree with them and reverse course, claim moral high ground ex post facto. If only there were a whole generation of douchebags that ate that morally ambiguous ambivalence up.
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Re: Maryland may actually be leaving the ACC

Postby BC923 on Wed Oct 31, 2018 7:23 pm

I don't see how Durkin was worth any kind of fight, especially when Matt Canada has been doing better than Durkin did
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Re: Maryland may actually be leaving the ACC

Postby Dick Rosenthal on Wed Oct 31, 2018 8:58 pm

While Maryland is at best mediocre. There is some decent talent—particularly at some skill positions. There are a couple of kids I would not mind BC taking a run at if they make themselves available. According to the same Maryland guys the other big winner may be Randy Edsall as there are a few seniors with another year of eligibility left who were the remnants of his last recruiting class. While none of them are particularly good, they are better than the garbage Edsall has at UGONE.
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Re: Maryland may actually be leaving the ACC

Postby eagle33 on Thu Nov 01, 2018 4:41 pm

Now players are fighting at practice over the Durkin firing. Just disband the program at this point.

https://www.baltimoresun.com/sports/terps/tracking-the-terps/bs-sp-maryland-football-altercation-20181101-story.html
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Re: Maryland may actually be leaving the ACC

Postby hansen on Thu Nov 01, 2018 6:37 pm

eagle33 wrote:Now players are fighting at practice over the Durkin firing. Just disband the program at this point.

https://www.baltimoresun.com/sports/terps/tracking-the-terps/bs-sp-maryland-football-altercation-20181101-story.html


is there anything gheyer than 2 punters fighting?
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Re: Maryland may actually be leaving the ACC

Postby TobaccoRoadEagle on Thu Nov 01, 2018 8:56 pm

hansen wrote:
eagle33 wrote:Now players are fighting at practice over the Durkin firing. Just disband the program at this point.

https://www.baltimoresun.com/sports/terps/tracking-the-terps/bs-sp-maryland-football-altercation-20181101-story.html


is there anything gheyer than 2 punters fighting?

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Re: Maryland may actually be leaving the ACC

Postby Dick Rosenthal on Thu Nov 01, 2018 9:32 pm

It is interesting that the Aussie Rules punter beat the shit out of the Randy Edsall recruited older punter. And this is consistent with everything I have been told—the older players, either recruited by Edsall (with UMD guaranteeing their offers after Durkin came aboard) or from the failing pipeline Edsall had created—were total pussies, locker room cancers and lazy, malingerers who were hostile to the superior athletes recruited in the freshman and sophomore and part of the junior classes—the athletes that actually beat Texas twice. And that was the Durkin split on the team—the soft Edsall players angry that Durkin demanded something from them and the younger guys who embraced the challenge. And while McNairs death is a tragedy, there was a sense among the young guys that he was a fat, out of shape malingerer and the coaches couldn’t be faulted for thinking he was trying to shirk given his past history and that his death was more the product of him being grossly out of shape as opposed to brutal and cruel practices.

At the risk of shouting at clouds, unless you have served in the military, if you are an member of the Millenial or post Millenial generation, we’d be better off as a society if you offed yourself. I sincerely hope the Chinese refuse to abide by the Geneva Convention when that balloon goes off and the draftees in that particular war are absolutely brutalized or we can make them go over the top in Somme-like frontal assaults. That herd definitely needs some big time culling.
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Re: Maryland may actually be leaving the ACC

Postby BCMurt09 on Sun Nov 04, 2018 2:31 am

Dick Rosenthal wrote:It is interesting that the Aussie Rules punter beat the shit out of the Randy Edsall recruited older punter. And this is consistent with everything I have been told—the older players, either recruited by Edsall (with UMD guaranteeing their offers after Durkin came aboard) or from the failing pipeline Edsall had created—were total pussies, locker room cancers and lazy, malingerers who were hostile to the superior athletes recruited in the freshman and sophomore and part of the junior classes—the athletes that actually beat Texas twice. And that was the Durkin split on the team—the soft Edsall players angry that Durkin demanded something from them and the younger guys who embraced the challenge. And while McNairs death is a tragedy, there was a sense among the young guys that he was a fat, out of shape malingerer and the coaches couldn’t be faulted for thinking he was trying to shirk given his past history and that his death was more the product of him being grossly out of shape as opposed to brutal and cruel practices.

At the risk of shouting at clouds, unless you have served in the military, if you are an member of the Millenial or post Millenial generation, we’d be better off as a society if you offed yourself. I sincerely hope the Chinese refuse to abide by the Geneva Convention when that balloon goes off and the draftees in that particular war are absolutely brutalized or we can make them go over the top in Somme-like frontal assaults. That herd definitely needs some big time culling.


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Re: Maryland may actually be leaving the ACC

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Re: Maryland may actually be leaving the ACC

Postby AdamBC on Sat Jun 22, 2019 11:12 am

Is it time for UConn to give up on their football experiment as they return to the Big East?

https://www.courant.com/sports/uconn-hu ... -story.htm
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Re: Maryland may actually be leaving the ACC

Postby ATLeagle on Sat Jun 22, 2019 12:24 pm

UConn potentially going Indy in football shows what a joke most of these non P5 tv deals are.
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Re: Maryland may actually be leaving the ACC

Postby claver2010 on Sun Jun 23, 2019 7:07 am

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My sense is there are folks in the AAC who view this as a chance to upgrade from UConn.
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Re: Maryland may actually be leaving the ACC

Postby mod6A on Sun Jun 23, 2019 10:42 am

what's the uconn path forward? is there one?

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