Maryland may actually be leaving the ACC

[mod6A]

i really hope bc sells 6000 tickets to shreveport.

[rktbrkr]

MD IS paying to go bowling

[eaglesfan06]

Wow, Maryland is truly pathetic.

Good riddance to that terrible program. Although it will suck losing our auto win each season, we will be better off in the long run when knowing we have to compete for 12 games rather than 11.

[HJS]

Wow, Maryland is truly pathetic.

Good riddance to that terrible program. Although it will suck losing our auto win each season, we will be better off in the long run when knowing we have to compete for 12 games rather than 11.

No one in the ACC vilified MD for leaving. Basically, Maryland as a program leaving for the B10 has been a non-event. They are terrible in pretty much all sports now. Their fans have always been the worst (ala West Virginia). Further, neither B10 nor MD are excited about their joining. They both have begrudging acceptance that they are doing it for the money and hope that it won't be that bad.

I was thinking the other day that Delany gets thought of as some virtuoso. Yet, Slive has created the best product and Scott has the best TV deals. Delany also BADLY misplayed expansion. Specifically, Mizzou desperately wanted to go to the B10 even over the SEC. And, Delany let them go to the SEC saying he saw no need to ever expand beyond 12. A few months later, he added Maryland and Rutgers. The man still wields enough power that he could destroy the ACC, but he isn't half as great as some make him out to be.

[b0mberMan]

When it comes time to tally conference bowl wins and losses, can we give MD's to the B1G?

[Oliver Closeoff]

Wow, Maryland is truly pathetic.

Good riddance to that terrible program. Although it will suck losing our auto win each season, we will be better off in the long run when knowing we have to compete for 12 games rather than 11.

No one in the ACC vilified MD for leaving. Basically, Maryland as a program leaving for the B10 has been a non-event. They are terrible in pretty much all sports now. Their fans have always been the worst (ala West Virginia). Further, neither B10 nor MD are excited about their joining. They both have begrudging acceptance that they are doing it for the money and hope that it won't be that bad.

I was thinking the other day that Delany gets thought of as some virtuoso. Yet, Slive has created the best product and Scott has the best TV deals. Delany also BADLY misplayed expansion. Specifically, Mizzou desperately wanted to go to the B10 even over the SEC. And, Delany let them go to the SEC saying he saw no need to ever expand beyond 12. A few months later, he added Maryland and Rutgers. The man still wields enough power that he could destroy the ACC, but he isn't half as great as some make him out to be.

B1G football blows, they are by far the worst of the 5 power conferences. While Delaney is kicking ass on the TV contract front, his teams suck yet few talking heads ever bring up the B1G's suckatude. The ACC gets bashed repeatedly for not being as good as the SEC yet the B1G gets handled with kid gloves.

[DuchesneEast]

Wow, Maryland is truly pathetic.

Good riddance to that terrible program. Although it will suck losing our auto win each season, we will be better off in the long run when knowing we have to compete for 12 games rather than 11.

No one in the ACC vilified MD for leaving. Basically, Maryland as a program leaving for the B10 has been a non-event. They are terrible in pretty much all sports now. Their fans have always been the worst (ala West Virginia). Further, neither B10 nor MD are excited about their joining. They both have begrudging acceptance that they are doing it for the money and hope that it won't be that bad.

I was thinking the other day that Delany gets thought of as some virtuoso. Yet, Slive has created the best product and Scott has the best TV deals. Delany also BADLY misplayed expansion. Specifically, Mizzou desperately wanted to go to the B10 even over the SEC. And, Delany let them go to the SEC saying he saw no need to ever expand beyond 12. A few months later, he added Maryland and Rutgers. The man still wields enough power that he could destroy the ACC, but he isn't half as great as some make him out to be.

B1G football blows, they are by far the worst of the 5 power conferences. While Delaney is kicking ass on the TV contract front, his teams suck yet few talking heads ever bring up the B1G's suckatude. The ACC gets bashed repeatedly for not being as good as the SEC yet the B1G gets handled with kid gloves.

We need FSU to beat Auburn and Clemson to beat tOSU. If that happens it will start to change perception although I am sure they will call the ACC "top heavy." If Miami keeps up the turnaround and we can have 3 good teams we will be fine and the B1G can suck it. Is will be ACC>Pac12>ACC.

I do think the ACC should consider realigning the divisions to tweak things a bit.

[HJS]

When it comes time to tally conference bowl wins and losses, can we give MD's to the B1G?

You know that an ACC mouthpiece such as David Glenn or LNH will do such an article if it makes the ACC look better.

[b0mberMan]

When it comes time to tally conference bowl wins and losses, can we give MD's to the B1G?

You know that an ACC mouthpiece such as David Glenn or LNH will do such an article if it makes the ACC look better.

And we can count a win when Louisville beats Miami!

Hooray conference stuff.

[HJS]

When it comes time to tally conference bowl wins and losses, can we give MD's to the B1G?

You know that an ACC mouthpiece such as David Glenn or LNH will do such an article if it makes the ACC look better.

And we can count a win when Louisville beats Miami!

Hooray conference stuff.

And we can count ND's win over RU since they are part of the ACC for the purposes of bowls beginning next year.

[Walsh601]

Maryland files a $157 million counterclaim vs. ACC. Alleges Wake Forest/Pittsburgh officials tried to recruit unnamed B1G schools to leave.

https://twitter.com/alex_prewitt/status/423114424216338433

New Maryland counterclaim against ACC claims ACC schools tried to recruit two Big Ten universities to leave the Big Ten and join the ACC.

https://twitter.com/sunjeffbarker/status/423113361513930752

Penn St. is a given. What was the second school?

[twballgame9]

That is a laugh out loud funny counterclaim. Tough to tell which is funnier:

1) The idea of Wake and Pitt carrying the torch for the ACC; or

2) The idea that romancing PSU and NW could cause 157 mil in damages; or

3) That it could cause damages to MD, who isn't in the B17 yet; or

4) the idea that there were any damages when neither team actually left.

[DavidGordonsFoot]

That is a laugh out loud funny counterclaim. Tough to tell which is funnier:

1) The idea of Wake and Pitt carrying the torch for the ACC; or

2) The idea that romancing PSU and NW could cause 157 mil in damages; or

3) That it could cause damages to MD, who isn't in the B17 yet; or

4) the idea that there were any damages when neither team actually left.

I think #4 is the most funny.

[TobaccoRoadEagle]

i wonder if civil has been asked to participate in this claim and that's why his AID hasn't been seen around here in months.

TRADER!!!

[DuchesneEast]

If UM is represented by Alumni, it shows how worthless that degree is.

Judge should throw it out and awards costs and sanctions. Dummies. You can approach any school to leave, it has no effect on your exit fee.

[apbc12]

So Maryland is restoring to the spaghetti strategy, eh? Things must really be looking up in College Park!

[TobaccoRoadEagle]

So Maryland is restoring to the spaghetti strategy, eh? Things must really be looking up in College Park!

i'd imagine this is some expensive spaghetti so the taxpayers of maryland MUST be psyched about the experiment

[HJS]

Maybe... MAYBE... there could be such a counter-claim if the ACC was suing the B10 for tortious interference. It isn't. The ACC isn't even suing to prevent MD from leaving. It is just suing MD to abide by the terms of a contract.

Honestly, MD's whole demeanor in leaving the ACC is bizarre. It is doing much more harm to itself than good. I also don't understand why they feel it necessary. If they were making the move because of money and research opportunities, both of those benefits are realized within 10 years of the move... even after abiding by the buyout. The buyout, while significant from the perspective of athletic department operations, is rather insignificant when talking about the university's overall budget.

All of this is strange and reinforces that attorneys who never practice (or only do so very briefly), and instead spend their life hiding in academia, are terrible at running shit.

[apbc12]

Maybe... MAYBE... there could be such a counter-claim if the ACC was suing the B10 for tortious interference. It isn't. The ACC isn't even suing to prevent MD from leaving. It is just suing MD to abide by the terms of a contract.

Honestly, MD's whole demeanor in leaving the ACC is bizarre. It is doing much more harm to itself than good. I also don't understand why they feel it necessary. If they were making the move because of money and research opportunities, both of those benefits are realized within 10 years of the move... even after abiding by the buyout. The buyout, while significant from the perspective of athletic department operations, is rather insignificant when talking about the university's overall budget.

All of this is strange and reinforces that attorneys who never practice (or only do so very briefly), and instead spend their life hiding in academia, are terrible at running shit.

With a few exceptions, lawyers who practice for a long time, or a short time, or a medium time, are terrible at running shit, too.

[2001Eagle]

If UM is represented by Alumni, it shows how worthless that degree is.

Judge should throw it out and awards costs and sanctions. Dummies. You can approach any school to leave, it has no effect on your exit fee.

Even a shit counterclaim provides some settlement leverage, if only for the cost of dealing with it for the otherside.

[TobaccoRoadEagle]

With a few exceptions, lawyers who practice for a long time, or a short time, or a medium time, are terrible at running shit, too.

except their mouths

[twballgame9]

Lawyers are definitely not good at running shit other than lawsuits.

[HJS]

If UM is represented by Alumni, it shows how worthless that degree is.

Judge should throw it out and awards costs and sanctions. Dummies. You can approach any school to leave, it has no effect on your exit fee.

Even a shit counterclaim provides some settlement leverage, if only for the cost of dealing with it for the otherside.

Not really. They are already embroiled in litigation. The cost associated with drafting a motion to dismiss is negligible (and no more than the cost for MD to respond to said motion). This counterclaim was put out there as a PR move. I actually don't know what they hope to accomplish with it other than to show (a) the ACC isn't a victim and (b) they were rejected by PSU and NW. The truth is that they probably just got those two fanbases thinking that maybe life would be better for them in another conference.

[DavidGordonsFoot]

is anyone here a lawyer?

[twballgame9]

That motion to dismiss doesn't have to be that long, either. The word "Really?" should suffice.

[HJS]

That motion to dismiss doesn't have to be that long, either. The word "Really?" should suffice.

[2001Eagle]

If UM is represented by Alumni, it shows how worthless that degree is.

Judge should throw it out and awards costs and sanctions. Dummies. You can approach any school to leave, it has no effect on your exit fee.

Even a shit counterclaim provides some settlement leverage, if only for the cost of dealing with it for the otherside.

Not really. They are already embroiled in litigation. The cost associated with drafting a motion to dismiss is negligible (and no more than the cost for MD to respond to said motion). This counterclaim was put out there as a PR move. I actually don't know what they hope to accomplish with it other than to show (a) the ACC isn't a victim and (b) they were rejected by PSU and NW. The truth is that they probably just got those two fanbases thinking that maybe life would be better for them in another conference.

Yes really. Cost is not only the fees associated with motion drafting, it is also weighing the risks of losing that motion, proceeding with discovery etc, waiting many months while some judge's clerk sifts through it all and makes a recommendation/drafts an opinion. Counterclaim could be PR and a shot at leverage, those are not mutually exclusive goals. I'm not saying it is very weighty or substantial piece of leverage, but it is a common tactic to plead even shitty counterclaims for exactly that reason, a tactic I don't really subscribe too, but a common one nonetheless.

[HJS]

Actually reading the article (as opposed to the tweets) is helpful: http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/ter ... ools-away/

The Pitt/WF thing is just an allegation and likely does not give rise to a cause of action (just thrown in there for PR). I view this as nothing more than MD consolidating all claims into the NC court system. The gist of their suit seems to be the withholding of funds (which likely totals to roughly the $52mm owed). That withholding, they allege, is a violation of MD's antitrust laws and they are accordingly entitled to treble manages (how they get to $157mm).

On an aside, it is nice to see the MD bringing GDF and ESPN into the mix. Will be interesting to see if the court makes them have to plead ESPN into the case (and thus killing their coverage for eternity).

[claver2010]

That motion to dismiss doesn't have to be that long, either. The word "Really?" should suffice.

they should've responded w lolcats

edit: here's the suit http://media10.washingtonpost.com/gener ... awsuit.pdf

[TobaccoRoadEagle]

That motion to dismiss doesn't have to be that long, either. The word "Really?" should suffice.

they should've responded w lolcats

edit: here's the suit http://media10.washingtonpost.com/gener ... awsuit.pdf