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Re: Maryland may actually be leaving the ACC

Postby MilitantEagle on Sun Dec 02, 2012 1:24 pm

Walsh601 {l Wrote}:
HJS {l Wrote}:http://insider.espn.go.com/college-football/features/rumors
Scroll down to the 12:18pm entry.


Lol. Could anyone with insider tell us what the whole post says?


ESPN.com national writer Ryan McGee looks back over the latest round of conference realignment and dubs the ACC one of the big winners. True, the Atlantic Coast lost Maryland to the Big Ten, but they also poached Louisville from the Big East, and McGee calls that a net gain for the conference. He also the ACC isn't done adding Big East teams, although a current member of the conference may not be happy to hear about that and what it means for them:
"To the people in Connecticut, who are up in arms over not being invited before Louisville, those in the know say hang on; your invite is coming soon. The most common reason given for Louisville jumping ahead in line is the academic issue that looms over UConn hoops. Once that draws nearer to a resolution, then Storrs is widely regarded as the next logical piece to the ACC puzzle -- even if it runs off Boston College."
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Re: Maryland may actually be leaving the ACC

Postby Walsh601 on Sun Dec 02, 2012 1:26 pm

MilitantEagle {l Wrote}:
Walsh601 {l Wrote}:
HJS {l Wrote}:http://insider.espn.go.com/college-football/features/rumors
Scroll down to the 12:18pm entry.


Lol. Could anyone with insider tell us what the whole post says?


ESPN.com national writer Ryan McGee looks back over the latest round of conference realignment and dubs the ACC one of the big winners. True, the Atlantic Coast lost Maryland to the Big Ten, but they also poached Louisville from the Big East, and McGee calls that a net gain for the conference. He also the ACC isn't done adding Big East teams, although a current member of the conference may not be happy to hear about that and what it means for them:
"To the people in Connecticut, who are up in arms over not being invited before Louisville, those in the know say hang on; your invite is coming soon. The most common reason given for Louisville jumping ahead in line is the academic issue that looms over UConn hoops. Once that draws nearer to a resolution, then Storrs is widely regarded as the next logical piece to the ACC puzzle -- even if it runs off Boston College."


Thanks, so not really a "rumor" but McGee talking out of his ass.
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Re: Maryland may actually be leaving the ACC

Postby MilitantEagle on Sun Dec 02, 2012 1:29 pm

Walsh601 {l Wrote}:
MilitantEagle {l Wrote}:
Walsh601 {l Wrote}:
HJS {l Wrote}:http://insider.espn.go.com/college-football/features/rumors
Scroll down to the 12:18pm entry.


Lol. Could anyone with insider tell us what the whole post says?


ESPN.com national writer Ryan McGee looks back over the latest round of conference realignment and dubs the ACC one of the big winners. True, the Atlantic Coast lost Maryland to the Big Ten, but they also poached Louisville from the Big East, and McGee calls that a net gain for the conference. He also the ACC isn't done adding Big East teams, although a current member of the conference may not be happy to hear about that and what it means for them:
"To the people in Connecticut, who are up in arms over not being invited before Louisville, those in the know say hang on; your invite is coming soon. The most common reason given for Louisville jumping ahead in line is the academic issue that looms over UConn hoops. Once that draws nearer to a resolution, then Storrs is widely regarded as the next logical piece to the ACC puzzle -- even if it runs off Boston College."


Thanks, so not really a "rumor" but McGee talking out of his ass.


Yup, and the title, "ACC dumping BC for UConn" was redonk.
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Re: Maryland may actually be leaving the ACC

Postby HJS on Sun Dec 02, 2012 2:19 pm

Unlike every retarded ACC message board right now... whose fans are mocking the ACC while claiming they'd be better in another conference (even though their shitty team didn't have a winning record in the joke of a conference)... I think the ACC isa perfect fit for BC and think that we are such a bad fit for B10, B12 and SEC that we aren't a consideration. This is someone talking out of his ass. That said, it could be spun as shot across BC's bow if ACC officials think we are the targets of the B1G.

The reality is this... the FB schools of FSU and Clemson want no part of UConn on its schedule. BC holds no political power specifically because we haven't been viewed as a flight risk.
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Re: Maryland may actually be leaving the ACC

Postby claver2010 on Mon Dec 03, 2012 11:37 am

http://m.dukechronicle.com/article/duke-says-its-acc-long-haul#/article/duke-says-its-acc-long-haul

“Duke is totally committed to the ACC,” President Richard Brodhead said. “It’s a rich occasion for fantasy. You’ve heard of fantasy football. Now we have fantasy conferences.”
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But stability is far from certain, as evidenced by Maryland’s surprise departure. And friends can quickly become adversaries, with the ACC filing suit against the Terrapins Monday regarding the $52 million exit fee required to leave the conference.

“They’re dead to me,” Brodhead joked. “They made that decision for their own reasons, and that’s their own business.”
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Re: Maryland may actually be leaving the ACC

Postby HJS on Mon Dec 03, 2012 11:43 am

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Re: Maryland may actually be leaving the ACC

Postby hansen on Tue Dec 04, 2012 6:43 pm

is the Ivy League looking to expand?

our football team might be competitive in the league
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Re: Maryland may actually be leaving the ACC

Postby TobaccoRoadEagle on Tue Dec 04, 2012 6:51 pm

hansen {l Wrote}:is the Ivy League looking to expand?

our football team might be competitive in the league


we'd have to give up all the kids that "earned" schollies.
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Re: Maryland may actually be leaving the ACC

Postby h2o on Tue Dec 04, 2012 7:03 pm

TobaccoRoadEagle {l Wrote}:
hansen {l Wrote}:is the Ivy League looking to expand?

our football team might be competitive in the league


we'd have to give up all the kids that "earned" schollies.


This year Harvard would kick BC's ass even with the scollie players.
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Re: Maryland may actually be leaving the ACC

Postby Walsh601 on Wed Dec 05, 2012 8:06 pm

NEW YORK -- The Big Ten recently announced it would increase to 14 members, so can a 16-team Big Ten be far behind?

"There are some advantages to 16 (teams) compared to 14," Michigan State athletic director Mark Hollis told ESPN Wednesday. "Fourteen is clumsy. We're not out looking for two teams, but basically we will continue to survey the landscape."


The Big Ten, already the richest conference in the nation, will be negotiating a new media rights deal in 2017, which is expected to pay each school more than $40 million annually.


As far as future Big Ten members, speculation has swirled around the league pursuing ACC programs such as Georgia Tech, Virginia and North Carolina.

Hollis would not name candidates, but said if the league expands "what we'll look for is does it fit? What impact does it have on the current membership?" Hollis said. "If after (an) evaluation, you see any upside, then there is a reason to grow."

"It won't be tomorrow," Hollis joked.

One factor that could impact the Big Ten's future expansion, specifically if it targets ACC teams, is whether Maryland will be required to pay the ACC's $52 million exit fee.


"I don't think (conference realignment) is over," Missouri athletic director Mike Alden said. "There's more coming."


http://espn.go.com/college-football/story/_/id/8718339/16-team-big-ten-michigan-state-spartans-ad-mark-hollis-sees-advantages
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Re: Maryland may actually be leaving the ACC

Postby HJS on Wed Dec 05, 2012 8:54 pm

There is also a fresh round of FSU to B12 rumors flying around. As I've been saying for quite a while... This thing is falling apart and doing so fast.

What I predict will happen is that you'll see the B10 and SEC go to 16 and B12 go to 12 all VERY soon. All 6 teams will come from the ACC (likely FSU, CU, UVA, GT, VT and a Carolina school). The ACC will backfill with Cincy, UConn and possibly 2 others (USF/Temple or USNA/USMA). Then shit will stop for like 5 or 6 years. What will happen next is a scramble for B12 and P12 to get to 16 while the B10 and SEC also add 2-4 teams. The end result will be some 72 teams who will leave the NCAA.

With Bates at the controls, you can rest assured that we will not be apart of ANY conference realignment in the immediate future. For a guy who so brutally fucked up the most simple of job searches, he has no skill or acumen of navigating the turbulent waters of conference realignment. We will be sentenced to a Rutgers-like purgatory playing against questionable opponents hoping that our TV market will one day prove attractive. Conference realignment for BC is a concern for the next coach, the next AD and the next President. And... to be honest, that's the way it should be because the current administration doesn't know what the flying fuck they are doing.
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Re: Maryland may actually be leaving the ACC

Postby claver2010 on Wed Dec 05, 2012 8:55 pm

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Re: Maryland may actually be leaving the ACC

Postby h2o on Wed Dec 05, 2012 8:57 pm

I thought Rutgers died about two weeks ago and went to heaven.
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Re: Maryland may actually be leaving the ACC

Postby vegasEagle on Wed Dec 05, 2012 9:01 pm

HJS {l Wrote}:There is also a fresh round of FSU to B12 rumors flying around. As I've been saying for quite a while... This thing is falling apart and doing so fast.

What I predict will happen is that you'll see the B10 and SEC go to 16 and B12 go to 12 all VERY soon. All 6 teams will come from the ACC (likely FSU, CU, UVA, GT, VT and a Carolina school). The ACC will backfill with Cincy, UConn and possibly 2 others (USF/Temple or USNA/USMA). Then shit will stop for like 5 or 6 years. What will happen next is a scramble for B12 and P12 to get to 16 while the B10 and SEC also add 2-4 teams. The end result will be some 72 teams who will leave the NCAA.

With Bates at the controls, you can rest assured that we will not be apart of ANY conference realignment in the immediate future. For a guy who so brutally fucked up the most simple of job searches, he has no skill or acumen of navigating the turbulent waters of conference realignment. We will be sentenced to a Rutgers-like purgatory playing against questionable opponents hoping that our TV market will one day prove attractive. Conference realignment for BC is a concern for the next coach, the next AD and the next President. And... to be honest, that's the way it should be because the current administration doesn't know what the flying fuck they are doing.


The only football program in the 7th biggest TV market in the country will not be left out of your new SUPERNCAA. End of story. Period.
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Re: Maryland may actually be leaving the ACC

Postby Walsh601 on Wed Dec 05, 2012 9:36 pm

vegasEagle {l Wrote}:The only football program in the 7th biggest TV market in the country will not be left out of your new SUPERNCAA. End of story. Period.


Where exactly do you see BC ending up? The B1G doesn't need us to access the Boston market. Besides, if we could deliver any significant portion of the "7th largest market", ESPN wouldn't be sticking all of our games on ESPN3.
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Re: Maryland may actually be leaving the ACC

Postby HJS on Wed Dec 05, 2012 9:50 pm

Walsh601 {l Wrote}:
vegasEagle {l Wrote}:The only football program in the 7th biggest TV market in the country will not be left out of your new SUPERNCAA. End of story. Period.


Where exactly do you see BC ending up? The B1G doesn't need us to access the Boston market. Besides, if we could deliver any significant portion of the "7th largest market", ESPN wouldn't be sticking all of our games on ESPN3.

We would end up in the B10 who would also relish the inclusion of our hockey team. But, we aren't going to be going there until they decide to go BEYOND 16. That'll take a while... more than a few years after they renegotiate their contract.
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Re: Maryland may actually be leaving the ACC

Postby bluefishskip on Wed Dec 05, 2012 10:52 pm

BC games are on ESPN3 due to the football team being no good. ACC still had access to Boston when BC was on ESPN3, with the prime game on ABC/ESPN/ESPN2, #2 game on ESPN2/ESPNU, #3 being on NESN, #4 being on the ACC Network (typically WSBK 38).
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Re: Maryland may actually be leaving the ACC

Postby vegasEagle on Wed Dec 05, 2012 10:58 pm

Walsh601 {l Wrote}:
vegasEagle {l Wrote}:The only football program in the 7th biggest TV market in the country will not be left out of your new SUPERNCAA. End of story. Period.


Where exactly do you see BC ending up? The B1G doesn't need us to access the Boston market. Besides, if we could deliver any significant portion of the "7th largest market", ESPN wouldn't be sticking all of our games on ESPN3.


Hey, I agree with some of what you're saying but none of it makes sense anyways. Rutgers added 6 more viewers for the B1G in the NY market. And I mean 6.
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Re: Maryland may actually be leaving the ACC

Postby TobaccoRoadEagle on Thu Dec 06, 2012 9:03 am

what our aliass friend vegas seems unable to grasp is that the espning of america has nothing to do with what the sets are tuned to but more to do with the number of sets available
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Re: Maryland may actually be leaving the ACC

Postby vegasEagle on Thu Dec 06, 2012 10:00 am

TobaccoRoadEagle {l Wrote}:what our aliass friend vegas seems unable to grasp is that the espning of america has nothing to do with what the sets are tuned to but more to do with the number of sets available


TRE, that's exactly what I was saying when I made my point about Boston being the 7th largest TV market therefore BC wouldn't be left out of HJS's SUPERNCAA.

And, I am not one of your aliasses.
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Re: Maryland may actually be leaving the ACC

Postby eagle9903 on Thu Dec 06, 2012 10:47 am

ESPN = people have to be watching (BC is not very helpful)

Big10 = extortion on cable consumers, no one has to be watching, they just have to subscribe to cable (BC could be OK for this because Boston is big)
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Re: Maryland may actually be leaving the ACC

Postby TobaccoRoadEagle on Thu Dec 06, 2012 10:49 am

eagle9903 {l Wrote}:ESPN = people have to be watching (BC is not very helpful)

Big10 = extortion on cable consumers, no one has to be watching, they just have to subscribe to cable (BC could be OK for this because Boston is big)


which is why bc being added to the big 10 is beneficial to the big 10.

this would also be true if any other conferences created its own extorting network as homojs likes to suggest that swofford should have but didn't because he is stupid and a jerk
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Re: Maryland may actually be leaving the ACC

Postby Walsh601 on Thu Dec 06, 2012 2:18 pm

Dec. 6, 2012

“We, the undersigned presidents of the Atlantic Coast Conference, wish to express our commitment to preserve and protect the future of our outstanding league. We want to be clear that the speculation about ACC schools in negotiations or considering alternatives to the ACC are totally false. The presidents of the ACC are united in our commitment to a strong and enduring conference. The ACC has long been a leader in intercollegiate athletics, both academically and athletically, and the constitution of our existing and future member schools will maintain the ACC’s position as one of the nation’s premier conferences.”

Fr. William Leahy, Boston College
Mr. James Barker, Clemson University
Dr. Richard Brodhead, Duke University
Dr. Eric Barron, Florida State University
Dr. G.P. “Bud” Peterson, Georgia Institute of Technology
Dr. James Ramsey, University of Louisville
Dr. Donna Shalala, University of Miami
Dr. Holden Thorp, University of North Carolina
Dr. Randy Woodson, North Carolina State University
Fr. John Jenkins, University of Notre Dame
Dr. Mark Nordenberg, University of Pittsburgh
Dr. Nancy Cantor, Syracuse University
Dr. Teresa Sullivan, University of Virginia
Dr. Charles Steger, Virginia Polytechnic Institute & State University
Dr. Nathan Hatch, Wake Forest University


http://www.theacc.com/genrel/120612aab.html
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Re: Maryland may actually be leaving the ACC

Postby TobaccoRoadEagle on Thu Dec 06, 2012 2:20 pm

hjs predicted this somewhere.

btw - did swofford sign his name in crayon or water-based magic marker?
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Re: Maryland may actually be leaving the ACC

Postby eagle9903 on Thu Dec 06, 2012 2:22 pm

Walsh601 {l Wrote}:
Dec. 6, 2012

“We, the undersigned presidents of the Atlantic Coast Conference, wish to express our commitment to preserve and protect the future of our outstanding league. We want to be clear that the speculation about ACC schools in negotiations or considering alternatives to the ACC are totally false. The presidents of the ACC are united in our commitment to a strong and enduring conference. The ACC has long been a leader in intercollegiate athletics, both academically and athletically, and the constitution of our existing and future member schools will maintain the ACC’s position as one of the nation’s premier conferences.”

Fr. William Leahy, Boston College
Mr. James Barker, Clemson University
Dr. Richard Brodhead, Duke University
Dr. Eric Barron, Florida State University
Dr. G.P. “Bud” Peterson, Georgia Institute of Technology
Dr. James Ramsey, University of Louisville
Dr. Donna Shalala, University of Miami
Dr. Holden Thorp, University of North Carolina
Dr. Randy Woodson, North Carolina State University
Fr. John Jenkins, University of Notre Dame
Dr. Mark Nordenberg, University of Pittsburgh
Dr. Nancy Cantor, Syracuse University
Dr. Teresa Sullivan, University of Virginia
Dr. Charles Steger, Virginia Polytechnic Institute & State University
Dr. Nathan Hatch, Wake Forest University


http://www.theacc.com/genrel/120612aab.html


interesting step, albeit not really very reassuring.
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Re: Maryland may actually be leaving the ACC

Postby Walsh601 on Thu Dec 06, 2012 2:23 pm

I wonder which schools' bitching forced this statement. It doesn't mean a thing, of course. Andy Staples from SI put it best:

The bottom line is if Jim Delany decides the ACC is going to get raided, it will get raided. If he decides it won't, it won't.


https://twitter.com/Andy_Staples/status/276767497229856769
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Re: Maryland may actually be leaving the ACC

Postby eagle9903 on Thu Dec 06, 2012 2:29 pm

Walsh601 {l Wrote}:I wonder which schools' bitching forced this statement. It doesn't mean a thing, of course. Andy Staples from SI put it best:

The bottom line is if Jim Delany decides the ACC is going to get raided, it will get raided. If he decides it won't, it won't.


https://twitter.com/Andy_Staples/status/276767497229856769


the only valuable thing it might do is increase the likelihood of a TV revamp
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Re: Maryland may actually be leaving the ACC

Postby Walsh601 on Thu Dec 06, 2012 2:31 pm

To answer my own question:

ACC's decision to express solidarity as a league initiated by FSU, UNC, GaTech, Clemson & VaTech presidents


https://twitter.com/McMurphyESPN/status/276770120037179394
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Re: Maryland may actually be leaving the ACC

Postby eagle9903 on Thu Dec 06, 2012 2:32 pm

Walsh601 {l Wrote}:To answer my own question:

ACC's decision to express solidarity as a league initiated by FSU, UNC, GaTech, Clemson & VaTech presidents


https://twitter.com/McMurphyESPN/status/276770120037179394


does that answer your question? why would those schools (the ones with options probably) bitch?
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Re: Maryland may actually be leaving the ACC

Postby claver2010 on Thu Dec 06, 2012 2:43 pm

Walsh601 {l Wrote}:
Dec. 6, 2012

“We, the undersigned presidents of the Atlantic Coast Conference, wish to express our commitment to preserve and protect the future of our outstanding league. We want to be clear that the speculation about ACC schools in negotiations or considering alternatives to the ACC are totally false. The presidents of the ACC are united in our commitment to a strong and enduring conference. The ACC has long been a leader in intercollegiate athletics, both academically and athletically, and the constitution of our existing and future member schools will maintain the ACC’s position as one of the nation’s premier conferences.”

Fr. William Leahy, Boston College
Mr. James Barker, Clemson University
Dr. Richard Brodhead, Duke University
Dr. Eric Barron, Florida State University
Dr. G.P. “Bud” Peterson, Georgia Institute of Technology
Dr. James Ramsey, University of Louisville
Dr. Donna Shalala, University of Miami
Dr. Holden Thorp, University of North Carolina
Dr. Randy Woodson, North Carolina State University
Fr. John Jenkins, University of Notre Dame
Dr. Mark Nordenberg, University of Pittsburgh
Dr. Nancy Cantor, Syracuse University
Dr. Teresa Sullivan, University of Virginia
Dr. Charles Steger, Virginia Polytechnic Institute & State University
Dr. Nathan Hatch, Wake Forest University


http://www.theacc.com/genrel/120612aab.html




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