by HJS on Sat Jul 24, 2021 7:42 am
2001Eagle {l Wrote}:https://mobile.twitter.com/JackMacCFB/status/1418678701135384579
Clempsun and FSU to SEC also
by Dick Rosenthal on Sat Jul 24, 2021 8:09 am
by hansen on Sat Jul 24, 2021 9:22 am
by HJS on Sat Jul 24, 2021 10:22 am
by eagle33 on Sat Jul 24, 2021 5:24 pm
by HJS on Sat Jul 24, 2021 5:40 pm
by 2001Eagle on Sat Jul 24, 2021 7:55 pm
by Dick Rosenthal on Sat Jul 24, 2021 8:45 pm
2001Eagle {l Wrote}:I suspect this isn’t just a one time play by the SEC. NFL had 16 billion in revenue in 2019. NCAA division 1 football had 4 billion and change. The NIL ruling means any pretense of amateurism is dead. I think this is the first step towards creating the “AAA” of the NFL. The top 24 teams in college football can have their own league and capture 90% of the college football revenue. Heck - they can have their own playoff and crown a national champion.
Even with the steep GOR/penalty for leaving a conference, if say-Clemson—effectively becomes an NFL minor league franchise, then the value of that program is at least 400-500 million I’d guess.
by 2001Eagle on Sun Jul 25, 2021 8:04 am
Dick Rosenthal {l Wrote}:2001Eagle {l Wrote}:I suspect this isn’t just a one time play by the SEC. NFL had 16 billion in revenue in 2019. NCAA division 1 football had 4 billion and change. The NIL ruling means any pretense of amateurism is dead. I think this is the first step towards creating the “AAA” of the NFL. The top 24 teams in college football can have their own league and capture 90% of the college football revenue. Heck - they can have their own playoff and crown a national champion.
Even with the steep GOR/penalty for leaving a conference, if say-Clemson—effectively becomes an NFL minor league franchise, then the value of that program is at least 400-500 million I’d guess.
I think you overestimate the value of Clemson, Alabama, LSU. If this becomes a purely professional league, then the marquis franchises, in terms of wealth generation and conversely the ability to go load up payroll are Notre Dame, Texas, Texas A&M, USC, Michigan and Ohio State. Amongst the SEC, Vanderbilt has money on hand that literally dwarfs the combined cash on hand of Bama, Auburn, Florida and Georgia, and Georgia will have the added problem of having its much wealthier rival Georgia Tech cutting them to pieces.
Basically, A&M, Texas, Notre Dame, Michigan, USC and Ohio State are the Yankees/Red Sox/Dodgers and the SEC outside of A&M and Vandy, are the Royals/Brewers. And once having zero academic standards and tradition and prestige get crushed by cold hard cash, then whatever power those schools have in the new universe is gone as well.
Hell, with better leadership, in a straight cash play, we’d be in better shape than any of the aforementioned Baby Rapist schools. We couldn’t punch with the aforementioned wealthy powerhouses, but we could be high midmarket—the Phillies/Nationals/Braves level.
by eagle33 on Sun Jul 25, 2021 11:56 am
by Dick Rosenthal on Sun Jul 25, 2021 12:16 pm
2001Eagle {l Wrote}:Dick Rosenthal {l Wrote}:2001Eagle {l Wrote}:I suspect this isn’t just a one time play by the SEC. NFL had 16 billion in revenue in 2019. NCAA division 1 football had 4 billion and change. The NIL ruling means any pretense of amateurism is dead. I think this is the first step towards creating the “AAA” of the NFL. The top 24 teams in college football can have their own league and capture 90% of the college football revenue. Heck - they can have their own playoff and crown a national champion.
Even with the steep GOR/penalty for leaving a conference, if say-Clemson—effectively becomes an NFL minor league franchise, then the value of that program is at least 400-500 million I’d guess.
I think you overestimate the value of Clemson, Alabama, LSU. If this becomes a purely professional league, then the marquis franchises, in terms of wealth generation and conversely the ability to go load up payroll are Notre Dame, Texas, Texas A&M, USC, Michigan and Ohio State. Amongst the SEC, Vanderbilt has money on hand that literally dwarfs the combined cash on hand of Bama, Auburn, Florida and Georgia, and Georgia will have the added problem of having its much wealthier rival Georgia Tech cutting them to pieces.
Basically, A&M, Texas, Notre Dame, Michigan, USC and Ohio State are the Yankees/Red Sox/Dodgers and the SEC outside of A&M and Vandy, are the Royals/Brewers. And once having zero academic standards and tradition and prestige get crushed by cold hard cash, then whatever power those schools have in the new universe is gone as well.
Hell, with better leadership, in a straight cash play, we’d be in better shape than any of the aforementioned Baby Rapist schools. We couldn’t punch with the aforementioned wealthy powerhouses, but we could be high midmarket—the Phillies/Nationals/Braves level.
As is your wont, I think you’re getting it wrong. Cash on hand really doesn’t matter. If you get into the super conference, your value rises.
by 2001Eagle on Sun Jul 25, 2021 4:48 pm
Dick Rosenthal {l Wrote}:2001Eagle {l Wrote}:Dick Rosenthal {l Wrote}:2001Eagle {l Wrote}:I suspect this isn’t just a one time play by the SEC. NFL had 16 billion in revenue in 2019. NCAA division 1 football had 4 billion and change. The NIL ruling means any pretense of amateurism is dead. I think this is the first step towards creating the “AAA” of the NFL. The top 24 teams in college football can have their own league and capture 90% of the college football revenue. Heck - they can have their own playoff and crown a national champion.
Even with the steep GOR/penalty for leaving a conference, if say-Clemson—effectively becomes an NFL minor league franchise, then the value of that program is at least 400-500 million I’d guess.
I think you overestimate the value of Clemson, Alabama, LSU. If this becomes a purely professional league, then the marquis franchises, in terms of wealth generation and conversely the ability to go load up payroll are Notre Dame, Texas, Texas A&M, USC, Michigan and Ohio State. Amongst the SEC, Vanderbilt has money on hand that literally dwarfs the combined cash on hand of Bama, Auburn, Florida and Georgia, and Georgia will have the added problem of having its much wealthier rival Georgia Tech cutting them to pieces.
Basically, A&M, Texas, Notre Dame, Michigan, USC and Ohio State are the Yankees/Red Sox/Dodgers and the SEC outside of A&M and Vandy, are the Royals/Brewers. And once having zero academic standards and tradition and prestige get crushed by cold hard cash, then whatever power those schools have in the new universe is gone as well.
Hell, with better leadership, in a straight cash play, we’d be in better shape than any of the aforementioned Baby Rapist schools. We couldn’t punch with the aforementioned wealthy powerhouses, but we could be high midmarket—the Phillies/Nationals/Braves level.
As is your wont, I think you’re getting it wrong. Cash on hand really doesn’t matter. If you get into the super conference, your value rises.
Not at all. If there is one thing I do understand its valuation of assets. Respectfully, because I think it is an interesting conversation and I don't want to shit all over you with respect to something you don't do professionally, you make the classic mistake (one that a lot of far more experienced people who do this for a living do as well) of ascribing goodwill value to a product in a rapidly and radically changing market. In those instances, it is always smart to look at cash on hand, as it is the only constant value.
Let's take Alabama by way of example. Let's also keep Saban part of the equation in terms of valuation even if he is turning 70 this year. What are Alabama's advantages as a program? They have a historically successful coach/CEO, tradition/name recognition, a complete absence of academic standards or commitment to the student athlete outside of the one year scholarship term (grey shirting, running kids off), a willingness to pay players under the table, proximity to talent, a lack of competition within their market space from local professional sports teams for casual fan attention, an excellent physical plant in terms of facilities, and a commitment to football excellence at the expense of other considerations in the current market place.
What are their weaknesses as a program? A relatively poor alumni and fan base. Dependency on a strong conference to drive revenue in the complete absence of a valuable, local media market. Tapped out in terms of available resources vis a vis key competitors as market conditions change.
Okay. Now let's look at the advantages in where the market is heading. Once college football becomes the professional league it is devolving into, the complete lack of academic standards, the payment of players under the table, the commitment to football excellence at the expense of reputation, etc. all go away. I suspect that political considerations/pressure will prevent the creation of a 24 team super league, which frankly would be the only Alabama could generate the cash flow to compete with the wealthier schools mentioned earlier. proximity to talent doesn't matter as much when players are all getting paid. The kid who wants to stay in the south to be close to mama is less likely to care about that if tOSU, USC, etc. can pay him two or three times what he will make at Bama. All you are really left with is a geriatric exceptional coach, a currently excellent physical plant, and tradition--although that tradition was built in an entirely different market.
What disadvantages remain. Poor alumni base and casual fan base. Small media market. Complete dependency on conference to drive revenue. A lack of available capital to invest in the program--even if the SEC TV revenue increases in the short term, while this thing devolves into the professional league of 4 super conferences (the only outcome that will avoid political road blocks) with paid players, the value of the SEC brand diminishes when USC or tOSU or Notre Dame or Texas drive up the cost of players and are able to take talent that would normally be locked into the SEC elsewhere. As talent disperses across the super conferences, the other conferences are all putting out a similar product and enjoying the same revenue streams as the SEC, with the aforementioned wealthier schools also tossing in money that the SEC can't match.
Anyway, it might take a few years to shake out, although I suspect it will be faster than anyone thinks, but at this point the long term valuation for the SEC baby rapists or Clemson doesn't look very good vis a vis the competition. In truth, they look like Hewlett-Packard in the late 70s just before the technology market shifted under their feet or a GM or Ford in the late 60s. Great right now, but not looking good in the long term.
by 2001Eagle on Sun Jul 25, 2021 4:51 pm
by Eaglekeeper on Sun Jul 25, 2021 6:34 pm
by ATLeagle on Sun Jul 25, 2021 9:06 pm
by twballgame9 on Sun Jul 25, 2021 10:35 pm
by HJS on Mon Jul 26, 2021 8:16 am
by Dick Rosenthal on Mon Jul 26, 2021 9:23 am
2001Eagle {l Wrote}:Dick Rosenthal {l Wrote}:2001Eagle {l Wrote}:Dick Rosenthal {l Wrote}:2001Eagle {l Wrote}:I suspect this isn’t just a one time play by the SEC. NFL had 16 billion in revenue in 2019. NCAA division 1 football had 4 billion and change. The NIL ruling means any pretense of amateurism is dead. I think this is the first step towards creating the “AAA” of the NFL. The top 24 teams in college football can have their own league and capture 90% of the college football revenue. Heck - they can have their own playoff and crown a national champion.
Even with the steep GOR/penalty for leaving a conference, if say-Clemson—effectively becomes an NFL minor league franchise, then the value of that program is at least 400-500 million I’d guess.
I think you overestimate the value of Clemson, Alabama, LSU. If this becomes a purely professional league, then the marquis franchises, in terms of wealth generation and conversely the ability to go load up payroll are Notre Dame, Texas, Texas A&M, USC, Michigan and Ohio State. Amongst the SEC, Vanderbilt has money on hand that literally dwarfs the combined cash on hand of Bama, Auburn, Florida and Georgia, and Georgia will have the added problem of having its much wealthier rival Georgia Tech cutting them to pieces.
Basically, A&M, Texas, Notre Dame, Michigan, USC and Ohio State are the Yankees/Red Sox/Dodgers and the SEC outside of A&M and Vandy, are the Royals/Brewers. And once having zero academic standards and tradition and prestige get crushed by cold hard cash, then whatever power those schools have in the new universe is gone as well.
Hell, with better leadership, in a straight cash play, we’d be in better shape than any of the aforementioned Baby Rapist schools. We couldn’t punch with the aforementioned wealthy powerhouses, but we could be high midmarket—the Phillies/Nationals/Braves level.
As is your wont, I think you’re getting it wrong. Cash on hand really doesn’t matter. If you get into the super conference, your value rises.
Not at all. If there is one thing I do understand its valuation of assets. Respectfully, because I think it is an interesting conversation and I don't want to shit all over you with respect to something you don't do professionally, you make the classic mistake (one that a lot of far more experienced people who do this for a living do as well) of ascribing goodwill value to a product in a rapidly and radically changing market. In those instances, it is always smart to look at cash on hand, as it is the only constant value.
Let's take Alabama by way of example. Let's also keep Saban part of the equation in terms of valuation even if he is turning 70 this year. What are Alabama's advantages as a program? They have a historically successful coach/CEO, tradition/name recognition, a complete absence of academic standards or commitment to the student athlete outside of the one year scholarship term (grey shirting, running kids off), a willingness to pay players under the table, proximity to talent, a lack of competition within their market space from local professional sports teams for casual fan attention, an excellent physical plant in terms of facilities, and a commitment to football excellence at the expense of other considerations in the current market place.
What are their weaknesses as a program? A relatively poor alumni and fan base. Dependency on a strong conference to drive revenue in the complete absence of a valuable, local media market. Tapped out in terms of available resources vis a vis key competitors as market conditions change.
Okay. Now let's look at the advantages in where the market is heading. Once college football becomes the professional league it is devolving into, the complete lack of academic standards, the payment of players under the table, the commitment to football excellence at the expense of reputation, etc. all go away. I suspect that political considerations/pressure will prevent the creation of a 24 team super league, which frankly would be the only Alabama could generate the cash flow to compete with the wealthier schools mentioned earlier. proximity to talent doesn't matter as much when players are all getting paid. The kid who wants to stay in the south to be close to mama is less likely to care about that if tOSU, USC, etc. can pay him two or three times what he will make at Bama. All you are really left with is a geriatric exceptional coach, a currently excellent physical plant, and tradition--although that tradition was built in an entirely different market.
What disadvantages remain. Poor alumni base and casual fan base. Small media market. Complete dependency on conference to drive revenue. A lack of available capital to invest in the program--even if the SEC TV revenue increases in the short term, while this thing devolves into the professional league of 4 super conferences (the only outcome that will avoid political road blocks) with paid players, the value of the SEC brand diminishes when USC or tOSU or Notre Dame or Texas drive up the cost of players and are able to take talent that would normally be locked into the SEC elsewhere. As talent disperses across the super conferences, the other conferences are all putting out a similar product and enjoying the same revenue streams as the SEC, with the aforementioned wealthier schools also tossing in money that the SEC can't match.
Anyway, it might take a few years to shake out, although I suspect it will be faster than anyone thinks, but at this point the long term valuation for the SEC baby rapists or Clemson doesn't look very good vis a vis the competition. In truth, they look like Hewlett-Packard in the late 70s just before the technology market shifted under their feet or a GM or Ford in the late 60s. Great right now, but not looking good in the long term.
I find this fascinating as well. But I simply disagree with you.
Do you feel as strongly about this as you did on the strength of Parlour’s antitrust suit?
by CowboyEagle22 on Mon Jul 26, 2021 9:27 am
by HJS on Mon Jul 26, 2021 10:13 am
CowboyEagle22 {l Wrote}:This looks a lot like what happened with boxing. No controlling authority to look out for the best interest of the sport, means the greedy get to run wild and consume the social capital of the sport. The SEC is the crooked fight promotors of college athletics.
You really have to wonder if this is just the bubble bursting. Cord cutting is a real issue now. Attendance and ratings have been in decline. The Baby Boomers are getting to the point were they are unwilling to spend on sports entertainment. Golf is in steep decline for this reason. I read somewhere that the Big Ten Network will no longer be on basic cable in Big Ten states. It just seems to point to a contraction in college sports, maybe sports entertainment as a whole.
by 2001Eagle on Mon Jul 26, 2021 8:34 pm
Dick Rosenthal {l Wrote}:2001Eagle {l Wrote}:Dick Rosenthal {l Wrote}:2001Eagle {l Wrote}:Dick Rosenthal {l Wrote}:2001Eagle {l Wrote}:I suspect this isn’t just a one time play by the SEC. NFL had 16 billion in revenue in 2019. NCAA division 1 football had 4 billion and change. The NIL ruling means any pretense of amateurism is dead. I think this is the first step towards creating the “AAA” of the NFL. The top 24 teams in college football can have their own league and capture 90% of the college football revenue. Heck - they can have their own playoff and crown a national champion.
Even with the steep GOR/penalty for leaving a conference, if say-Clemson—effectively becomes an NFL minor league franchise, then the value of that program is at least 400-500 million I’d guess.
I think you overestimate the value of Clemson, Alabama, LSU. If this becomes a purely professional league, then the marquis franchises, in terms of wealth generation and conversely the ability to go load up payroll are Notre Dame, Texas, Texas A&M, USC, Michigan and Ohio State. Amongst the SEC, Vanderbilt has money on hand that literally dwarfs the combined cash on hand of Bama, Auburn, Florida and Georgia, and Georgia will have the added problem of having its much wealthier rival Georgia Tech cutting them to pieces.
Basically, A&M, Texas, Notre Dame, Michigan, USC and Ohio State are the Yankees/Red Sox/Dodgers and the SEC outside of A&M and Vandy, are the Royals/Brewers. And once having zero academic standards and tradition and prestige get crushed by cold hard cash, then whatever power those schools have in the new universe is gone as well.
Hell, with better leadership, in a straight cash play, we’d be in better shape than any of the aforementioned Baby Rapist schools. We couldn’t punch with the aforementioned wealthy powerhouses, but we could be high midmarket—the Phillies/Nationals/Braves level.
As is your wont, I think you’re getting it wrong. Cash on hand really doesn’t matter. If you get into the super conference, your value rises.
Not at all. If there is one thing I do understand its valuation of assets. Respectfully, because I think it is an interesting conversation and I don't want to shit all over you with respect to something you don't do professionally, you make the classic mistake (one that a lot of far more experienced people who do this for a living do as well) of ascribing goodwill value to a product in a rapidly and radically changing market. In those instances, it is always smart to look at cash on hand, as it is the only constant value.
Let's take Alabama by way of example. Let's also keep Saban part of the equation in terms of valuation even if he is turning 70 this year. What are Alabama's advantages as a program? They have a historically successful coach/CEO, tradition/name recognition, a complete absence of academic standards or commitment to the student athlete outside of the one year scholarship term (grey shirting, running kids off), a willingness to pay players under the table, proximity to talent, a lack of competition within their market space from local professional sports teams for casual fan attention, an excellent physical plant in terms of facilities, and a commitment to football excellence at the expense of other considerations in the current market place.
What are their weaknesses as a program? A relatively poor alumni and fan base. Dependency on a strong conference to drive revenue in the complete absence of a valuable, local media market. Tapped out in terms of available resources vis a vis key competitors as market conditions change.
Okay. Now let's look at the advantages in where the market is heading. Once college football becomes the professional league it is devolving into, the complete lack of academic standards, the payment of players under the table, the commitment to football excellence at the expense of reputation, etc. all go away. I suspect that political considerations/pressure will prevent the creation of a 24 team super league, which frankly would be the only Alabama could generate the cash flow to compete with the wealthier schools mentioned earlier. proximity to talent doesn't matter as much when players are all getting paid. The kid who wants to stay in the south to be close to mama is less likely to care about that if tOSU, USC, etc. can pay him two or three times what he will make at Bama. All you are really left with is a geriatric exceptional coach, a currently excellent physical plant, and tradition--although that tradition was built in an entirely different market.
What disadvantages remain. Poor alumni base and casual fan base. Small media market. Complete dependency on conference to drive revenue. A lack of available capital to invest in the program--even if the SEC TV revenue increases in the short term, while this thing devolves into the professional league of 4 super conferences (the only outcome that will avoid political road blocks) with paid players, the value of the SEC brand diminishes when USC or tOSU or Notre Dame or Texas drive up the cost of players and are able to take talent that would normally be locked into the SEC elsewhere. As talent disperses across the super conferences, the other conferences are all putting out a similar product and enjoying the same revenue streams as the SEC, with the aforementioned wealthier schools also tossing in money that the SEC can't match.
Anyway, it might take a few years to shake out, although I suspect it will be faster than anyone thinks, but at this point the long term valuation for the SEC baby rapists or Clemson doesn't look very good vis a vis the competition. In truth, they look like Hewlett-Packard in the late 70s just before the technology market shifted under their feet or a GM or Ford in the late 60s. Great right now, but not looking good in the long term.
I find this fascinating as well. But I simply disagree with you.
Do you feel as strongly about this as you did on the strength of Parlour’s antitrust suit?
Stronger actually, because this is dictated by actual market forces instead of the whims of a corrupt Obama appointee. Anyway, you're a fucking moron, but thanks for the input.
by HJS on Tue Jul 27, 2021 9:55 am
by claver2010 on Tue Jul 27, 2021 10:28 am
i'm worried he might've succumbed to civilaids
by CowboyEagle22 on Tue Jul 27, 2021 11:41 am
HJS {l Wrote}:After notifying the B12 that they will not renew their GOR, Texas and Oklahoma has asked the SEC for admission beginning July 1, 2025.
by Dick Rosenthal on Tue Jul 27, 2021 1:42 pm
2001Eagle {l Wrote}:Dick Rosenthal {l Wrote}:2001Eagle {l Wrote}:Dick Rosenthal {l Wrote}:2001Eagle {l Wrote}:Dick Rosenthal {l Wrote}:2001Eagle {l Wrote}:I suspect this isn’t just a one time play by the SEC. NFL had 16 billion in revenue in 2019. NCAA division 1 football had 4 billion and change. The NIL ruling means any pretense of amateurism is dead. I think this is the first step towards creating the “AAA” of the NFL. The top 24 teams in college football can have their own league and capture 90% of the college football revenue. Heck - they can have their own playoff and crown a national champion.
Even with the steep GOR/penalty for leaving a conference, if say-Clemson—effectively becomes an NFL minor league franchise, then the value of that program is at least 400-500 million I’d guess.
I think you overestimate the value of Clemson, Alabama, LSU. If this becomes a purely professional league, then the marquis franchises, in terms of wealth generation and conversely the ability to go load up payroll are Notre Dame, Texas, Texas A&M, USC, Michigan and Ohio State. Amongst the SEC, Vanderbilt has money on hand that literally dwarfs the combined cash on hand of Bama, Auburn, Florida and Georgia, and Georgia will have the added problem of having its much wealthier rival Georgia Tech cutting them to pieces.
Basically, A&M, Texas, Notre Dame, Michigan, USC and Ohio State are the Yankees/Red Sox/Dodgers and the SEC outside of A&M and Vandy, are the Royals/Brewers. And once having zero academic standards and tradition and prestige get crushed by cold hard cash, then whatever power those schools have in the new universe is gone as well.
Hell, with better leadership, in a straight cash play, we’d be in better shape than any of the aforementioned Baby Rapist schools. We couldn’t punch with the aforementioned wealthy powerhouses, but we could be high midmarket—the Phillies/Nationals/Braves level.
As is your wont, I think you’re getting it wrong. Cash on hand really doesn’t matter. If you get into the super conference, your value rises.
Not at all. If there is one thing I do understand its valuation of assets. Respectfully, because I think it is an interesting conversation and I don't want to shit all over you with respect to something you don't do professionally, you make the classic mistake (one that a lot of far more experienced people who do this for a living do as well) of ascribing goodwill value to a product in a rapidly and radically changing market. In those instances, it is always smart to look at cash on hand, as it is the only constant value.
Let's take Alabama by way of example. Let's also keep Saban part of the equation in terms of valuation even if he is turning 70 this year. What are Alabama's advantages as a program? They have a historically successful coach/CEO, tradition/name recognition, a complete absence of academic standards or commitment to the student athlete outside of the one year scholarship term (grey shirting, running kids off), a willingness to pay players under the table, proximity to talent, a lack of competition within their market space from local professional sports teams for casual fan attention, an excellent physical plant in terms of facilities, and a commitment to football excellence at the expense of other considerations in the current market place.
What are their weaknesses as a program? A relatively poor alumni and fan base. Dependency on a strong conference to drive revenue in the complete absence of a valuable, local media market. Tapped out in terms of available resources vis a vis key competitors as market conditions change.
Okay. Now let's look at the advantages in where the market is heading. Once college football becomes the professional league it is devolving into, the complete lack of academic standards, the payment of players under the table, the commitment to football excellence at the expense of reputation, etc. all go away. I suspect that political considerations/pressure will prevent the creation of a 24 team super league, which frankly would be the only Alabama could generate the cash flow to compete with the wealthier schools mentioned earlier. proximity to talent doesn't matter as much when players are all getting paid. The kid who wants to stay in the south to be close to mama is less likely to care about that if tOSU, USC, etc. can pay him two or three times what he will make at Bama. All you are really left with is a geriatric exceptional coach, a currently excellent physical plant, and tradition--although that tradition was built in an entirely different market.
What disadvantages remain. Poor alumni base and casual fan base. Small media market. Complete dependency on conference to drive revenue. A lack of available capital to invest in the program--even if the SEC TV revenue increases in the short term, while this thing devolves into the professional league of 4 super conferences (the only outcome that will avoid political road blocks) with paid players, the value of the SEC brand diminishes when USC or tOSU or Notre Dame or Texas drive up the cost of players and are able to take talent that would normally be locked into the SEC elsewhere. As talent disperses across the super conferences, the other conferences are all putting out a similar product and enjoying the same revenue streams as the SEC, with the aforementioned wealthier schools also tossing in money that the SEC can't match.
Anyway, it might take a few years to shake out, although I suspect it will be faster than anyone thinks, but at this point the long term valuation for the SEC baby rapists or Clemson doesn't look very good vis a vis the competition. In truth, they look like Hewlett-Packard in the late 70s just before the technology market shifted under their feet or a GM or Ford in the late 60s. Great right now, but not looking good in the long term.
I find this fascinating as well. But I simply disagree with you.
Do you feel as strongly about this as you did on the strength of Parlour’s antitrust suit?
Stronger actually, because this is dictated by actual market forces instead of the whims of a corrupt Obama appointee. Anyway, you're a fucking moron, but thanks for the input.
Right back at you, pal. Looking forward to the first time you’re right about something on this website. Rooting for you.
by 2013CommAve on Tue Jul 27, 2021 8:29 pm
by twballgame9 on Tue Jul 27, 2021 8:30 pm
by Corporal Funishment on Tue Jul 27, 2021 9:16 pm
by eagle33 on Wed Jul 28, 2021 7:30 am
Corporal Funishment {l Wrote}:The real question is who will be in our division in the SEC after they invite us because Lukabu led us to 2 national championships after Hafley left us because he had already won 2 championships also?
by TobaccoRoadEagle on Wed Jul 28, 2021 7:57 am
eagle33 {l Wrote}:Corporal Funishment {l Wrote}:The real question is who will be in our division in the SEC after they invite us because Lukabu led us to 2 national championships after Hafley left us because he had already won 2 championships also?
good question. i think we actually end up in the big 10 east division after the power brokers in the sec and big 10 decide how to divvy up the acc teams worth inviting for membership.
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