It's Bates

by **pick6pedro** on Tue Oct 09, 2012 1:54 pm

ConcernedEagle {l Wrote}:Clown shoes just grew. We are just completely 100% fucked. Was going to try to give Boo a chance. No such stipulations for this fuckface. Fucking clown. fucking shoes. I'm finishing out this football season and then I'm over it. Last straw for this old boy. New public enemy #1 - Leahy.

Is this more like the "I'm not going to the Clemson game" hissy fit or the "I hate life insurance salesmen" hissy fit? Maybe you should read the brief and/or watch the video first.

by **eagle9903** on Tue Oct 09, 2012 1:57 pm

apbc12 {l Wrote}:
bignick33 {l Wrote}:

Didn't he play the Kramer character on "Jerry"?

He is less weird looking than Donahue so he has that going for him.

by **Cadillac90** on Tue Oct 09, 2012 2:00 pm

eagle9903 {l Wrote}:
apbc12 {l Wrote}:
bignick33 {l Wrote}:

Didn't he play the Kramer character on "Jerry"?

He is less weird looking than Donahue so he has that going for him.

I thought he presented himself a lot better than Greasy Gene that's for sure.

by **Hunta518** on Tue Oct 09, 2012 2:08 pm

eagle9903 {l Wrote}:
apbc12 {l Wrote}:
bignick33 {l Wrote}:

Didn't he play the Kramer character on "Jerry"?

He is less weird looking than Donahue so he has that going for him.

Did you take those raisins?

by **DavidGordonsFoot** on Tue Oct 09, 2012 2:28 pm

Hunta518 {l Wrote}:
eagle9903 {l Wrote}:
apbc12 {l Wrote}:
bignick33 {l Wrote}:

Didn't he play the Kramer character on "Jerry"?

He is less weird looking than Donahue so he has that going for him.

Did you take those raisins?

There was a box of raisins right there...

by **eagle9903** on Tue Oct 09, 2012 2:39 pm

this day has been anticlimactic.

by **HJS** on Tue Oct 09, 2012 2:44 pm

His voice and screwed up hair reminds me of...

Which means he will quickly become Coach Gerbil(tm) if he makes a crap FB hire.

by **RegalBCeagle** on Tue Oct 09, 2012 3:05 pm

Someone needs to tell him the 80's era butt-cut is out of style.

by **bignick33** on Tue Oct 09, 2012 3:16 pm

http://www.boston.com/sports/colleges/2 ... story.html

by **eagle216** on Tue Oct 09, 2012 3:58 pm

HJS or someone else with mad researching skills should list the jobs each current ACC AD had immediately preceding their current position. This should provide some context to the OH NOS, WE GOT A MAC AD crowd.

by **twballgame9** on Tue Oct 09, 2012 4:06 pm

eagle216 {l Wrote}:HJS or someone else with mad researching skills should list the jobs each current ACC AD had immediately preceding their current position. This should provide some context to the OH NOS, WE GOT A MAC AD crowd.

Randy Spetman of FSU came there from Utah State after serving in the same position at USAFA

by **twballgame9** on Tue Oct 09, 2012 4:07 pm

Bubba Cunningham of UNC came from Tulsa after Ball State.

by **twballgame9** on Tue Oct 09, 2012 4:10 pm

Kevin Anderson of Maryland came from Army

by **talon** on Tue Oct 09, 2012 4:11 pm

Jim Weaver at VT came from Western Michigan.

by **RegalBCeagle** on Tue Oct 09, 2012 4:11 pm

I don't care what (insert Boo, Williams, Bobinski, and Bates here) did before he became our AD, so long as he fires Spaz at the right moment, hires the right head coach, and then makes efforts to improve gameday experience. If he fucks those things up, then I'll be freaking irate. At the end of the day, there's no guarantee, based on their resumes, that one would do this properly and the other wouldn't. Time will tell if Bates is the right AD for BC.

by **talon** on Tue Oct 09, 2012 4:13 pm

Craig Littlepage at UVA was promoted from within (assoc. AD)

by **eagle9903** on Tue Oct 09, 2012 4:20 pm

Here's the SEC:

UF - Jeremy N. Foley, former job: Florida (Assoc. AD)
Kentucky - Mitch Barnhart, former job: Oregon St. AD
UGA - Greg McGarity, former job: Florida (Asst. AD)
Mizzou - Mike Alden, former job: I can't find this easily
USC(east) - Ray Tanner, former job: USC baseball coach
Tennessee - Dave Hart, former job" "executive" AD at Bama (I think this is worse than AD)
Vandy - David Williams II, former job, this is confusing but he was an internal hire

Bama - Mal Moore, former job, Bama asst. AD
Arkansas - Jeff Long, former job, AD at Pitt
Auburn - Jay Jacobs, former job, Auburn asst. AD
LSU - Joe Alleva, former job, Duke AD
MSU- Scott Stricklin, former job, MSU Senior Associate Athletics Director for External Affairs
Ole Miss - Ross Bjork, former job, AD at Western Kentucky
TAMU - Eric Hyman, former job, TCU AD.

by **eagletx** on Tue Oct 09, 2012 4:23 pm

RegalBCeagle {l Wrote}:I don't care what (insert Boo, Williams, Bobinski, and Bates here) did before he became our AD, so long as he fires Spaz at the right moment, hires the right head coach, and then makes efforts to improve gameday experience. If he fucks those things up, then I'll be freaking irate. At the end of the day, there's no guarantee, based on their resumes, that one would do this properly and the other wouldn't. Time will tell if Bates is the right AD for BC.

Geez, in one succinct post you discarded all the expert, unique insider intelligence that this board has to offer.

by **BCEaglesFan** on Tue Oct 09, 2012 5:32 pm

A lot of Miami fans thought he was a pretty good fundraiser and marketer, so there's that. But he apparently wanted to use Miami as a stepping stone the day he got there. He was a finalist for a lot of BCS AD Jobs.

by **eagle216** on Tue Oct 09, 2012 6:01 pm

eagle9903 {l Wrote}:Here's the SEC:

UF - Jeremy N. Foley, former job: Florida (Assoc. AD)
Kentucky - Mitch Barnhart, former job: Oregon St. AD
UGA - Greg McGarity, former job: Florida (Asst. AD)
Mizzou - Mike Alden, former job: I can't find this easily
USC(east) - Ray Tanner, former job: USC baseball coach
Tennessee - Dave Hart, former job" "executive" AD at Bama (I think this is worse than AD)
Vandy - David Williams II, former job, this is confusing but he was an internal hire

Bama - Mal Moore, former job, Bama asst. AD
Arkansas - Jeff Long, former job, AD at Pitt
Auburn - Jay Jacobs, former job, Auburn asst. AD
LSU - Joe Alleva, former job, Duke AD
MSU- Scott Stricklin, former job, MSU Senior Associate Athletics Director for External Affairs
Ole Miss - Ross Bjork, former job, AD at Western Kentucky
TAMU - Eric Hyman, former job, TCU AD.

Based on this, plus the handful of ACC schools mentioned above, it appears that Bates' resume (coming from the AD position at Miami U) is of the type people would expect from out new AD. (The SEC trends a little higher, but that is the SEC). People who are bitching SOLELY because he is coming from a MAC school are talking out of their arse. He may turn out to be clownshoes, but he has the typical resume, that's for sure.

by **talon** on Tue Oct 09, 2012 6:19 pm

Also, there was that thread on the miamihawktalk message board (a board that's deader than EagleInsider) where some people kinda liked Bates and some people weren't too unhappy to see him go.

Which makes me wonder: how many schools' fans overwhelmingly love their athletic directors?

Even here at BC, between 2004 and 2008 (after he got us into the ACC, but before he issued the Jets-interview-ultimatum), how many people would have been devastated if GDF left?

by **claver2010** on Tue Oct 09, 2012 6:32 pm

He'll be on Dennis & Callahan at 8:30 tomorrow

by **DavidGordonsFoot** on Tue Oct 09, 2012 7:19 pm

claver2010 {l Wrote}:He'll be on Dennis & Callahan at 8:30 tomorrow

They'll ask the questions we wanted asked at the press conference today. BB will talk around them, but they will be asked. Dennis doesn't give a crap, but Callahan has some affinity for the school. I saw him in the Plex lot before the Clemson game in '09. He was tailgating and did not look like he was there for work.

by **QuailMan** on Tue Oct 09, 2012 7:38 pm

DavidGordonsFoot {l Wrote}:
claver2010 {l Wrote}:He'll be on Dennis & Callahan at 8:30 tomorrow

They'll ask the questions we wanted asked at the press conference today. BB will talk around them, but they will be asked. Dennis doesn't give a crap, but Callahan has some affinity for the school. I saw him in the Plex lot before the Clemson game in '09. He was tailgating and did not look like he was there for work.

Haven't listened to that show since the Schilling came on after the Rhode Island debacle, you would've though Schilling was the victim

by **maxwell22** on Tue Oct 09, 2012 9:12 pm

I miss Quentin Williams . . . and Boo,too!

by **claver2010** on Tue Oct 09, 2012 9:18 pm

DavidGordonsFoot {l Wrote}:
claver2010 {l Wrote}:He'll be on Dennis & Callahan at 8:30 tomorrow

They'll ask the questions we wanted asked at the press conference today. BB will talk around them, but they will be asked. Dennis doesn't give a crap, but Callahan has some affinity for the school. I saw him in the Plex lot before the Clemson game in '09. He was tailgating and did not look like he was there for work.

Granted I never listen to Boston sports radio, but it sounds like BC gets more pub on the NY morning show than the Boston

by **2008Eagle** on Tue Oct 09, 2012 9:27 pm

claver2010 {l Wrote}:
DavidGordonsFoot {l Wrote}:
claver2010 {l Wrote}:He'll be on Dennis & Callahan at 8:30 tomorrow

They'll ask the questions we wanted asked at the press conference today. BB will talk around them, but they will be asked. Dennis doesn't give a crap, but Callahan has some affinity for the school. I saw him in the Plex lot before the Clemson game in '09. He was tailgating and did not look like he was there for work.

Granted I never listen to Boston sports radio, but it sounds like BC gets more pub on the NY morning show than the Boston

IIRC, Boomer Esiason's kid goes to BC so that's probably why. Point taken though about Boston media usually not giving a shit.

by **claver2010** on Tue Oct 09, 2012 9:29 pm

Yeah 2 kids (son & daughter).

Went to about 10+ hockey games last year and would always talk about Kreider as the Rangers were waiting for him.
Also goes to a bunch of football games including Saturday at Army

by **hansen** on Tue Oct 09, 2012 11:02 pm

twballgame9 {l Wrote}:
ConcernedEagle {l Wrote}:
Clown shoes just grew. We are just completely 100% fucked. Was going to try to give Boo a chance. No such stipulations for this fuckface. Fucking clown. fucking shoes. I'm finishing out this football season and then I'm over it. Last straw for this old boy.

Damn, just when we were beginning to like you.

Wait, I missed this.

When did THAT happen?

by **Casey** on Wed Oct 10, 2012 2:05 am

eagle9903 {l Wrote}:Here's the SEC:

UF - Jeremy N. Foley, former job: Florida (Assoc. AD)
Kentucky - Mitch Barnhart, former job: Oregon St. AD
UGA - Greg McGarity, former job: Florida (Asst. AD)
Mizzou - Mike Alden, former job: I can't find this easily
USC(east) - Ray Tanner, former job: USC baseball coach
Tennessee - Dave Hart, former job" "executive" AD at Bama (I think this is worse than AD)
Vandy - David Williams II, former job, this is confusing but he was an internal hire

Bama - Mal Moore, former job, Bama asst. AD
Arkansas - Jeff Long, former job, AD at Pitt
Auburn - Jay Jacobs, former job, Auburn asst. AD
LSU - Joe Alleva, former job, Duke AD
MSU- Scott Stricklin, former job, MSU Senior Associate Athletics Director for External Affairs
Ole Miss - Ross Bjork, former job, AD at Western Kentucky
TAMU - Eric Hyman, former job, TCU AD.

I'm convinced that the optimal skill set/pedigree/attributes that make a quality AD are formed at all levels of college ball, and Do not require first-hand experience at a peer BCS school.

Consider that Stanford's legendary AD, who presided over 20+ Sears Director cups, and unparalleled success across the broadest range of men's/women's sports, hand picked his successor from University of Delaware, a good 1-AA football program, with no experience in TV contracts, BCS politics, or World-class Non-revenue spits. Programs that feed our Olympic team.

Minnesota hired VCU's AD ... Which doesn't have football or hockey.

Bottom line, Hiring an AD is nothing like hiring a BCS level football coach ( which does require exposure toNFl/BCS competition ... Or a proven track record as HC t 1-AA)

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