innocentbystander {l Wrote}:The only thing that matters in college football, is recruiting. We haven't had any recruiting sinceOn recruiting alone (nothing else, since his coaching was incompetence)
= 9 wins per year.
Bring in whoever recruits the best. Fuck everything else. I don't care if he bitches and moans about how hard it is to recruit for BC, as long as he recruits. I don't care how much BC pays him, as long as he recruits. I don't care what kind of offense or defense BC runs (or what coordinators he hires) as long as he recruits like a mofo. I don't even care if he gives radio or talk show interviews where he denigrates BC as his employer the way the Ginger coach did, provided we get the kind of players Ginger gave us. We need a salesman, not a talker or a politician.
durkcal {l Wrote}:innocentbystander {l Wrote}:The only thing that matters in college football, is recruiting. We haven't had any recruiting sinceOn recruiting alone (nothing else, since his coaching was incompetence)
= 9 wins per year.
Bring in whoever recruits the best. Fuck everything else. I don't care if he bitches and moans about how hard it is to recruit for BC, as long as he recruits. I don't care how much BC pays him, as long as he recruits. I don't care what kind of offense or defense BC runs (or what coordinators he hires) as long as he recruits like a mofo. I don't even care if he gives radio or talk show interviews where he denigrates BC as his employer the way the Ginger coach did, provided we get the kind of players Ginger gave us. We need a salesman, not a talker or a politician.
You must pay like zero attention to college football. This is the worst take ever. Hafley was a recruiter. Ron Zook was an amazing recruiter. Good coaches hire strong recruiting assistants, and motivate them. Good BC football head coaches lead, demand accountability and develop players.
innocentbystander {l Wrote}:durkcal {l Wrote}:innocentbystander {l Wrote}:The only thing that matters in college football, is recruiting. We haven't had any recruiting sinceOn recruiting alone (nothing else, since his coaching was incompetence)
= 9 wins per year.
Bring in whoever recruits the best. Fuck everything else. I don't care if he bitches and moans about how hard it is to recruit for BC, as long as he recruits. I don't care how much BC pays him, as long as he recruits. I don't care what kind of offense or defense BC runs (or what coordinators he hires) as long as he recruits like a mofo. I don't even care if he gives radio or talk show interviews where he denigrates BC as his employer the way the Ginger coach did, provided we get the kind of players Ginger gave us. We need a salesman, not a talker or a politician.
You must pay like zero attention to college football. This is the worst take ever. Hafley was a recruiter. Ron Zook was an amazing recruiter. Good coaches hire strong recruiting assistants, and motivate them. Good BC football head coaches lead, demand accountability and develop players.
Toby had 3 or 4 recruiting classes where his recruits collectively ranked number one in the Big East conference (including his last class when he knew he was quitting!) How did we get Matt Ryan, William Green, or Damian Woody? How did we get Kiwanuka? Did Hafley ever bring in players even close to the ability of those guys? All 4 of them were number one at their positions in college football the years that they played, all at BC, all due to Toby. Hafley had two recruiting classes (including his last one) that ranked dead last (14 out of 14) in the ACC. What the fuck could you possibly be talking about?
Its great that we have Bob O'Brien. But this forum is supposed to be the BC Eagles no spin zone. You don't have to be sensitive or tender hearted toward BC and what it is and what it isn't, here. This is not Hockeyruption or Eagle Insider where we can't be honest about reality.
ATLeagle {l Wrote}:innocentbystander {l Wrote}:durkcal {l Wrote}:innocentbystander {l Wrote}:The only thing that matters in college football, is recruiting. We haven't had any recruiting sinceOn recruiting alone (nothing else, since his coaching was incompetence)
= 9 wins per year.
Bring in whoever recruits the best. Fuck everything else. I don't care if he bitches and moans about how hard it is to recruit for BC, as long as he recruits. I don't care how much BC pays him, as long as he recruits. I don't care what kind of offense or defense BC runs (or what coordinators he hires) as long as he recruits like a mofo. I don't even care if he gives radio or talk show interviews where he denigrates BC as his employer the way the Ginger coach did, provided we get the kind of players Ginger gave us. We need a salesman, not a talker or a politician.
You must pay like zero attention to college football. This is the worst take ever. Hafley was a recruiter. Ron Zook was an amazing recruiter. Good coaches hire strong recruiting assistants, and motivate them. Good BC football head coaches lead, demand accountability and develop players.
Toby had 3 or 4 recruiting classes where his recruits collectively ranked number one in the Big East conference (including his last class when he knew he was quitting!) How did we get Matt Ryan, William Green, or Damian Woody? How did we get Kiwanuka? Did Hafley ever bring in players even close to the ability of those guys? All 4 of them were number one at their positions in college football the years that they played, all at BC, all due to Toby. Hafley had two recruiting classes (including his last one) that ranked dead last (14 out of 14) in the ACC. What the fuck could you possibly be talking about?
Its great that we have Bob O'Brien. But this forum is supposed to be the BC Eagles no spin zone. You don't have to be sensitive or tender hearted toward BC and what it is and what it isn't, here. This is not Hockeyruption or Eagle Insider where we can't be honest about reality.
Woody was recruited by Henning. Neither Ryan nor Kiwi were top recruits. The early TOB years were overrated by Rivals as Farrell was starting out, worked for EA and bumped up ratings for tips and access.
innocentbystander {l Wrote}:ATLeagle {l Wrote}:innocentbystander {l Wrote}:durkcal {l Wrote}:innocentbystander {l Wrote}:The only thing that matters in college football, is recruiting. We haven't had any recruiting sinceOn recruiting alone (nothing else, since his coaching was incompetence)
= 9 wins per year.
Bring in whoever recruits the best. Fuck everything else. I don't care if he bitches and moans about how hard it is to recruit for BC, as long as he recruits. I don't care how much BC pays him, as long as he recruits. I don't care what kind of offense or defense BC runs (or what coordinators he hires) as long as he recruits like a mofo. I don't even care if he gives radio or talk show interviews where he denigrates BC as his employer the way the Ginger coach did, provided we get the kind of players Ginger gave us. We need a salesman, not a talker or a politician.
You must pay like zero attention to college football. This is the worst take ever. Hafley was a recruiter. Ron Zook was an amazing recruiter. Good coaches hire strong recruiting assistants, and motivate them. Good BC football head coaches lead, demand accountability and develop players.
Toby had 3 or 4 recruiting classes where his recruits collectively ranked number one in the Big East conference (including his last class when he knew he was quitting!) How did we get Matt Ryan, William Green, or Damian Woody? How did we get Kiwanuka? Did Hafley ever bring in players even close to the ability of those guys? All 4 of them were number one at their positions in college football the years that they played, all at BC, all due to Toby. Hafley had two recruiting classes (including his last one) that ranked dead last (14 out of 14) in the ACC. What the fuck could you possibly be talking about?
Its great that we have Bob O'Brien. But this forum is supposed to be the BC Eagles no spin zone. You don't have to be sensitive or tender hearted toward BC and what it is and what it isn't, here. This is not Hockeyruption or Eagle Insider where we can't be honest about reality.
Woody was recruited by Henning. Neither Ryan nor Kiwi were top recruits. The early TOB years were overrated by Rivals as Farrell was starting out, worked for EA and bumped up ratings for tips and access.
Ryan and Kiwi were not top recruits but they ended up being super high draft picks because Toby found diamonds that no one else valued. THAT is what we need from recruiters and head coaches at Boston College. We haven't had that since 2006. That is 18 years. Maybe BOB will be different and get us back where we once were?
We want the same things here Atlanta. I know how much you guys hate Toby and why you hate him, and I am with you. He denigrated his own employer and whined all the time about how hard this job was. But years later, I have missed what he gave us that we haven't had in almost 2 decades: relevance.
twballgame9 {l Wrote}:innocentbystander {l Wrote}:ATLeagle {l Wrote}:innocentbystander {l Wrote}:durkcal {l Wrote}:innocentbystander {l Wrote}:The only thing that matters in college football, is recruiting. We haven't had any recruiting sinceOn recruiting alone (nothing else, since his coaching was incompetence)
= 9 wins per year.
Bring in whoever recruits the best. Fuck everything else. I don't care if he bitches and moans about how hard it is to recruit for BC, as long as he recruits. I don't care how much BC pays him, as long as he recruits. I don't care what kind of offense or defense BC runs (or what coordinators he hires) as long as he recruits like a mofo. I don't even care if he gives radio or talk show interviews where he denigrates BC as his employer the way the Ginger coach did, provided we get the kind of players Ginger gave us. We need a salesman, not a talker or a politician.
You must pay like zero attention to college football. This is the worst take ever. Hafley was a recruiter. Ron Zook was an amazing recruiter. Good coaches hire strong recruiting assistants, and motivate them. Good BC football head coaches lead, demand accountability and develop players.
Toby had 3 or 4 recruiting classes where his recruits collectively ranked number one in the Big East conference (including his last class when he knew he was quitting!) How did we get Matt Ryan, William Green, or Damian Woody? How did we get Kiwanuka? Did Hafley ever bring in players even close to the ability of those guys? All 4 of them were number one at their positions in college football the years that they played, all at BC, all due to Toby. Hafley had two recruiting classes (including his last one) that ranked dead last (14 out of 14) in the ACC. What the fuck could you possibly be talking about?
Its great that we have Bob O'Brien. But this forum is supposed to be the BC Eagles no spin zone. You don't have to be sensitive or tender hearted toward BC and what it is and what it isn't, here. This is not Hockeyruption or Eagle Insider where we can't be honest about reality.
Woody was recruited by Henning. Neither Ryan nor Kiwi were top recruits. The early TOB years were overrated by Rivals as Farrell was starting out, worked for EA and bumped up ratings for tips and access.
Ryan and Kiwi were not top recruits but they ended up being super high draft picks because Toby found diamonds that no one else valued. THAT is what we need from recruiters and head coaches at Boston College. We haven't had that since 2006. That is 18 years. Maybe BOB will be different and get us back where we once were?
We want the same things here Atlanta. I know how much you guys hate Toby and why you hate him, and I am with you. He denigrated his own employer and whined all the time about how hard this job was. But years later, I have missed what he gave us that we haven't had in almost 2 decades: relevance.
You've logic boxed yourself. Accepting your premise that recruiting is everything and coaching means little and Toby was a great recruiter, why did he have a mediocre result ceiling immediately exceeded by his successor with the same players?
Oh yeah, coaching.
innocentbystander {l Wrote}:Okay 52, and its Bill. Sue me counsellor. Oh I forgot, you don't do that anymore. You just sell your firm's ability to practice law instead of practicing it yourself.
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