TobaccoRoadEagle {l Wrote}:so they rejected your request for a rainbow hot tub again this year, eh bme?
They keep saying there is insufficient water pressure on Shea. F'ing bullshit. I've seen the sprinklers.
TobaccoRoadEagle {l Wrote}:so they rejected your request for a rainbow hot tub again this year, eh bme?
HJS {l Wrote}:dtwalrus {l Wrote}:I'm going to preface this by saying that I was always the type of person that would immediately dismiss anyone that complained about BC's move to the ACC, but after looking at the attendance numbers in detail over the last few days I'm really starting to think that the move from the Big East to the ACC is the biggest precipitant of the drop off.
Here are attendance numbers by year with the corresponding home schedule (OOC in parentheses):
Before:
1998 - 41,200 - Rutgers, Temple, Virginia Tech, Syracuse, (Navy, Notre Dame)
1999 - 41,347 - Pittsburgh, Miami, West Virginia, (Baylor, Northeastern)
2000 - 39,327 - Virginia Tech, Syracuse, Rutgers, Temple, (Navy, Uconn)
2001 - 42,640 - West Virginia, Temple, Pittsburgh, Miami, (Stanford, Army, Notre Dame)
2002 - 41,106 - Virginia Tech, Syracuse, Rutgers, (UConn, Stanford, Central Michigan, Navy)
2003 - 42,604 - Miami, Pittsburgh, West Virginia, (Wake Forest, Ball State, Notre Dame)
2004 - 43,190 - Uconn, Rutgers, Syracuse (Penn State, UMass)
After:
2005 - 39,429 - FSU, Virginia, Wake Forest, NCST, (Army, Ball State)
2006 - 38,843 - Clemson, Virginia Tech, Duke, Maryland, (BYU, Maine, Buffalo)
2007 - 41,990 - Wake Forest, NCST, FSU, Miami, (Army, UMass, Bowling Green)
2008 - 41,037 - Georgia Tech, Virginia Tech, Clemson, Maryland, (Central Florida, Rhode Island, Notre Dame)
2009 - 35,716 - Wake Forest, Florida State, NC State, North Carolina, (Northeastern, Kent State, Central Michigan)
2010 - 38,369 - Virginia Tech, Maryland, Clemson, Virginia, (Weber State, Kent State, Notre Dame)
2011 - 35,709 - Duke, Wake Forest, FSU, NC State, (Northwestern, UMass)
2012 - 37,020 - Miami, Clemson, Maryland, Virginia Tech, (Maine, Notre Dame)
2013 - 33,006 - Wake Forest, FSU, Virginia Tech, NC State, (Villanova, Army)
2014 - 34,270 - Pittsburgh, Clemson, Louisville, Syracuse, (USC, Maine, Colorado State)
You spent all that time analyzing the data, but missed the biggest factor. 2005 was the first year BC started scanning tickets... and, as a result, is the first year they started reporting actual attendance (i.e. tickets used). Before 2005, BC only reported tickets sold. Essentially, any comparison between pre- and post-2005 is apples vs. oranges.
dtwalrus {l Wrote}:HJS {l Wrote}:dtwalrus {l Wrote}:I'm going to preface this by saying that I was always the type of person that would immediately dismiss anyone that complained about BC's move to the ACC, but after looking at the attendance numbers in detail over the last few days I'm really starting to think that the move from the Big East to the ACC is the biggest precipitant of the drop off.
Here are attendance numbers by year with the corresponding home schedule (OOC in parentheses):
Before:
1998 - 41,200 - Rutgers, Temple, Virginia Tech, Syracuse, (Navy, Notre Dame)
1999 - 41,347 - Pittsburgh, Miami, West Virginia, (Baylor, Northeastern)
2000 - 39,327 - Virginia Tech, Syracuse, Rutgers, Temple, (Navy, Uconn)
2001 - 42,640 - West Virginia, Temple, Pittsburgh, Miami, (Stanford, Army, Notre Dame)
2002 - 41,106 - Virginia Tech, Syracuse, Rutgers, (UConn, Stanford, Central Michigan, Navy)
2003 - 42,604 - Miami, Pittsburgh, West Virginia, (Wake Forest, Ball State, Notre Dame)
2004 - 43,190 - Uconn, Rutgers, Syracuse (Penn State, UMass)
After:
2005 - 39,429 - FSU, Virginia, Wake Forest, NCST, (Army, Ball State)
2006 - 38,843 - Clemson, Virginia Tech, Duke, Maryland, (BYU, Maine, Buffalo)
2007 - 41,990 - Wake Forest, NCST, FSU, Miami, (Army, UMass, Bowling Green)
2008 - 41,037 - Georgia Tech, Virginia Tech, Clemson, Maryland, (Central Florida, Rhode Island, Notre Dame)
2009 - 35,716 - Wake Forest, Florida State, NC State, North Carolina, (Northeastern, Kent State, Central Michigan)
2010 - 38,369 - Virginia Tech, Maryland, Clemson, Virginia, (Weber State, Kent State, Notre Dame)
2011 - 35,709 - Duke, Wake Forest, FSU, NC State, (Northwestern, UMass)
2012 - 37,020 - Miami, Clemson, Maryland, Virginia Tech, (Maine, Notre Dame)
2013 - 33,006 - Wake Forest, FSU, Virginia Tech, NC State, (Villanova, Army)
2014 - 34,270 - Pittsburgh, Clemson, Louisville, Syracuse, (USC, Maine, Colorado State)
You spent all that time analyzing the data, but missed the biggest factor. 2005 was the first year BC started scanning tickets... and, as a result, is the first year they started reporting actual attendance (i.e. tickets used). Before 2005, BC only reported tickets sold. Essentially, any comparison between pre- and post-2005 is apples vs. oranges.
Well, if true, that's a depressing revelation. That would change everything...
Bryn Mawr Eagle {l Wrote}:twballgame9 {l Wrote}:dtwalrus {l Wrote}:DavidGordonsFoot {l Wrote}:dtwalrus {l Wrote}:When was there an escalation in BCPD gameday crackdowns?
The first escalation was in '94 after the stadium expansion. I have been lead to believe there were practically no rules enforced prior to this time.
The second escalation was '06 when they first instituted the policy of shutting down tailgates 30 minutes before kickoff.
Shutting down tailgates was really badly received. This does also correspond to the timing of the dropoff.
It was poorly received because BC fans don't give a shit about the football team. Shouldn't have to shut down tailgates 30 minutes before kickoff, as everyone should be in the stadium to support the team.
That sounds great in theory, but because of the tailgaiting time restrictions it just isn't reality. It's a f'ing college football game, and since I live 300 miles from campus, have a job, three kids, and lots of shit going on every weekend in the Fall, when I go up it is probably my one chance a year to see my friends and their families, and catch a BC football game on the Heights. I'm there to reconnect with people and take in a game; if all I cared about was the game itself I'd watch it on TV or the computer and not be interrupted by, like, real people and shit. If I want to be able to hang out and tailgate a bit to do so into the 1st quarter, well this is f'ing America and I ought to be able to do so. The jackbooted thugs forcing me to close shop after 2 hours of tailgaiting (since it takes an hour just to get in and set up the tent, grill and food) after dropping almost a thousand bucks on the Shea parking pass, tickets, food, beer, etc., f'ing suck. I should be able to go in (or not go in) when I want.
And fuck all of you who give me shit about this. Go live in North Korea. I'm an American and should be able to do what I want. Fuck yeah.
twballgame9 {l Wrote}:Bryn Mawr Eagle {l Wrote}:twballgame9 {l Wrote}:dtwalrus {l Wrote}:DavidGordonsFoot {l Wrote}:dtwalrus {l Wrote}:When was there an escalation in BCPD gameday crackdowns?
The first escalation was in '94 after the stadium expansion. I have been lead to believe there were practically no rules enforced prior to this time.
The second escalation was '06 when they first instituted the policy of shutting down tailgates 30 minutes before kickoff.
Shutting down tailgates was really badly received. This does also correspond to the timing of the dropoff.
It was poorly received because BC fans don't give a shit about the football team. Shouldn't have to shut down tailgates 30 minutes before kickoff, as everyone should be in the stadium to support the team.
That sounds great in theory, but because of the tailgaiting time restrictions it just isn't reality. It's a f'ing college football game, and since I live 300 miles from campus, have a job, three kids, and lots of shit going on every weekend in the Fall, when I go up it is probably my one chance a year to see my friends and their families, and catch a BC football game on the Heights. I'm there to reconnect with people and take in a game; if all I cared about was the game itself I'd watch it on TV or the computer and not be interrupted by, like, real people and shit. If I want to be able to hang out and tailgate a bit to do so into the 1st quarter, well this is f'ing America and I ought to be able to do so. The jackbooted thugs forcing me to close shop after 2 hours of tailgaiting (since it takes an hour just to get in and set up the tent, grill and food) after dropping almost a thousand bucks on the Shea parking pass, tickets, food, beer, etc., f'ing suck. I should be able to go in (or not go in) when I want.
And fuck all of you who give me shit about this. Go live in North Korea. I'm an American and should be able to do what I want. Fuck yeah.
No one is saying you shouldn't be allowed to be a terrible football fan, just that you are one.
eagle9903 {l Wrote}:twballgame9 {l Wrote}:Bryn Mawr Eagle {l Wrote}:twballgame9 {l Wrote}:dtwalrus {l Wrote}:DavidGordonsFoot {l Wrote}:dtwalrus {l Wrote}:When was there an escalation in BCPD gameday crackdowns?
The first escalation was in '94 after the stadium expansion. I have been lead to believe there were practically no rules enforced prior to this time.
The second escalation was '06 when they first instituted the policy of shutting down tailgates 30 minutes before kickoff.
Shutting down tailgates was really badly received. This does also correspond to the timing of the dropoff.
It was poorly received because BC fans don't give a shit about the football team. Shouldn't have to shut down tailgates 30 minutes before kickoff, as everyone should be in the stadium to support the team.
That sounds great in theory, but because of the tailgaiting time restrictions it just isn't reality. It's a f'ing college football game, and since I live 300 miles from campus, have a job, three kids, and lots of shit going on every weekend in the Fall, when I go up it is probably my one chance a year to see my friends and their families, and catch a BC football game on the Heights. I'm there to reconnect with people and take in a game; if all I cared about was the game itself I'd watch it on TV or the computer and not be interrupted by, like, real people and shit. If I want to be able to hang out and tailgate a bit to do so into the 1st quarter, well this is f'ing America and I ought to be able to do so. The jackbooted thugs forcing me to close shop after 2 hours of tailgaiting (since it takes an hour just to get in and set up the tent, grill and food) after dropping almost a thousand bucks on the Shea parking pass, tickets, food, beer, etc., f'ing suck. I should be able to go in (or not go in) when I want.
And fuck all of you who give me shit about this. Go live in North Korea. I'm an American and should be able to do what I want. Fuck yeah.
No one is saying you shouldn't be allowed to be a terrible football fan, just that you are one.
we can't all be 40 year old virgins (thank tedwardita for this number not being higher), watching space operas and living the dream.
twballgame9 {l Wrote}:eagle9903 {l Wrote}:twballgame9 {l Wrote}:Bryn Mawr Eagle {l Wrote}:twballgame9 {l Wrote}:dtwalrus {l Wrote}:DavidGordonsFoot {l Wrote}:dtwalrus {l Wrote}:When was there an escalation in BCPD gameday crackdowns?
The first escalation was in '94 after the stadium expansion. I have been lead to believe there were practically no rules enforced prior to this time.
The second escalation was '06 when they first instituted the policy of shutting down tailgates 30 minutes before kickoff.
Shutting down tailgates was really badly received. This does also correspond to the timing of the dropoff.
It was poorly received because BC fans don't give a shit about the football team. Shouldn't have to shut down tailgates 30 minutes before kickoff, as everyone should be in the stadium to support the team.
That sounds great in theory, but because of the tailgaiting time restrictions it just isn't reality. It's a f'ing college football game, and since I live 300 miles from campus, have a job, three kids, and lots of shit going on every weekend in the Fall, when I go up it is probably my one chance a year to see my friends and their families, and catch a BC football game on the Heights. I'm there to reconnect with people and take in a game; if all I cared about was the game itself I'd watch it on TV or the computer and not be interrupted by, like, real people and shit. If I want to be able to hang out and tailgate a bit to do so into the 1st quarter, well this is f'ing America and I ought to be able to do so. The jackbooted thugs forcing me to close shop after 2 hours of tailgaiting (since it takes an hour just to get in and set up the tent, grill and food) after dropping almost a thousand bucks on the Shea parking pass, tickets, food, beer, etc., f'ing suck. I should be able to go in (or not go in) when I want.
And fuck all of you who give me shit about this. Go live in North Korea. I'm an American and should be able to do what I want. Fuck yeah.
No one is saying you shouldn't be allowed to be a terrible football fan, just that you are one.
we can't all be 40 year old virgins (thank tedwardita for this number not being higher), watching space operas and living the dream.
Not a real good effort. Take your time, step out of the box and look for your pitch.
TobaccoRoadEagle {l Wrote}:twballgame9 {l Wrote}:eagle9903 {l Wrote}:twballgame9 {l Wrote}:Bryn Mawr Eagle {l Wrote}:twballgame9 {l Wrote}:dtwalrus {l Wrote}:DavidGordonsFoot {l Wrote}:dtwalrus {l Wrote}:When was there an escalation in BCPD gameday crackdowns?
The first escalation was in '94 after the stadium expansion. I have been lead to believe there were practically no rules enforced prior to this time.
The second escalation was '06 when they first instituted the policy of shutting down tailgates 30 minutes before kickoff.
Shutting down tailgates was really badly received. This does also correspond to the timing of the dropoff.
It was poorly received because BC fans don't give a shit about the football team. Shouldn't have to shut down tailgates 30 minutes before kickoff, as everyone should be in the stadium to support the team.
That sounds great in theory, but because of the tailgaiting time restrictions it just isn't reality. It's a f'ing college football game, and since I live 300 miles from campus, have a job, three kids, and lots of shit going on every weekend in the Fall, when I go up it is probably my one chance a year to see my friends and their families, and catch a BC football game on the Heights. I'm there to reconnect with people and take in a game; if all I cared about was the game itself I'd watch it on TV or the computer and not be interrupted by, like, real people and shit. If I want to be able to hang out and tailgate a bit to do so into the 1st quarter, well this is f'ing America and I ought to be able to do so. The jackbooted thugs forcing me to close shop after 2 hours of tailgaiting (since it takes an hour just to get in and set up the tent, grill and food) after dropping almost a thousand bucks on the Shea parking pass, tickets, food, beer, etc., f'ing suck. I should be able to go in (or not go in) when I want.
And fuck all of you who give me shit about this. Go live in North Korea. I'm an American and should be able to do what I want. Fuck yeah.
No one is saying you shouldn't be allowed to be a terrible football fan, just that you are one.
we can't all be 40 year old virgins (thank tedwardita for this number not being higher), watching space operas and living the dream.
Not a real good effort. Take your time, step out of the box and look for your pitch.
i laughed
twballgame9 {l Wrote}:You're also a member of the US Air executive lounge, so there's that.
DavidGordonsFoot {l Wrote}:twballgame9 {l Wrote}:You're also a member of the US Air executive lounge, so there's that.
Platinum level?
twballgame9 {l Wrote}:DavidGordonsFoot {l Wrote}:twballgame9 {l Wrote}:You're also a member of the US Air executive lounge, so there's that.
Platinum level?
whichever one has the fruity run drinks with the umbrellas, so no, probably not.
TobaccoRoadEagle {l Wrote}:they recently upgraded their well vodka to stoli and i have enjoyed that transition tremendously
DavidGordonsFoot {l Wrote}:TobaccoRoadEagle {l Wrote}:they recently upgraded their well vodka to stoli and i have enjoyed that transition tremendously
I thought you said you stopped drinking when you fly because you were worried all the free booze would make you an alcoholic. Or was that someone else here?
DavidGordonsFoot {l Wrote}:TobaccoRoadEagle {l Wrote}:they recently upgraded their well vodka to stoli and i have enjoyed that transition tremendously
I thought you said you stopped drinking when you fly because you were worried all the free booze would make you an alcoholic. Or was that someone else here?
twballgame9 {l Wrote}:DavidGordonsFoot {l Wrote}:TobaccoRoadEagle {l Wrote}:they recently upgraded their well vodka to stoli and i have enjoyed that transition tremendously
I thought you said you stopped drinking when you fly because you were worried all the free booze would make you an alcoholic. Or was that someone else here?
I figured he would at least drink Ketel One while correcting my typos.
TobaccoRoadEagle {l Wrote}:twballgame9 {l Wrote}:DavidGordonsFoot {l Wrote}:TobaccoRoadEagle {l Wrote}:they recently upgraded their well vodka to stoli and i have enjoyed that transition tremendously
I thought you said you stopped drinking when you fly because you were worried all the free booze would make you an alcoholic. Or was that someone else here?
I figured he would at least drink Ketel One while correcting my typos.
nah - i'm still an accountant at heart so free will always beat netherlands
TobaccoRoadEagle {l Wrote}:DavidGordonsFoot {l Wrote}:TobaccoRoadEagle {l Wrote}:they recently upgraded their well vodka to stoli and i have enjoyed that transition tremendously
I thought you said you stopped drinking when you fly because you were worried all the free booze would make you an alcoholic. Or was that someone else here?
that must have been someone else here or a very shortlived plan for me. or maybe i was inspired by 81 and was pulling a prank.
i most assuredly enjoy the complementary cocktails offered to me in the air. likely as often as you enjoy the complementary front-tails of your latest ladyboyfriend
dtwalrus {l Wrote}:
b0mberMan {l Wrote}:It's because you touch yourself at night
NorthEndEagle {l Wrote}:cat hair pee fire
DavidGordonsFoot {l Wrote}:I would rather talk about filling in the corners than ACC division realignment.
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