TobaccoRoadEagle {l Wrote}:how have bcnathanlane, budcollins, endlessmike, theeaglesnestpornokid, or mo j not posted in this thread yet?
twballgame9 {l Wrote}:2001Eagle {l Wrote}:twballgame9 {l Wrote}:2001Eagle {l Wrote}:jhiggi02 {l Wrote}:angrychicken {l Wrote}:jhiggi02 {l Wrote}:
And to AC's comments, its nice to see that BC's "phenomenal" education has churned out so many socially aware alums.
Ahhhh...now I see what the problem is here.
Again, look through other posts and you will realize that I took my talents to a University around the Cambridge area instead of BC.... So I have no clue where you view the problem as coming from?
Congrats! Did you know Sean? or Will?
Point of order, that's in Boston. But funny nonetheless.
Demurrer: he said "around the Cambridge area." BHCC definitely qualifies.
I was going to make a point of order on your arcane procedural use of a pleading that only exists in two states anymore, but I will let it slide since your point is correct. AFFIRMED ON OTHER GROUNDS.
angrychicken {l Wrote}:TobaccoRoadEagle {l Wrote}:how have bcnathanlane, budcollins, endlessmike, theeaglesnestpornokid, or mo j not posted in this thread yet?
Campion must be busy and 'moj is trying to figure out how to get the Rutgers QB out of jail.
TobaccoRoadEagle {l Wrote}:angrychicken {l Wrote}:TobaccoRoadEagle {l Wrote}:how have bcnathanlane, budcollins, endlessmike, theeaglesnestpornokid, or mo j not posted in this thread yet?
Campion must be busy and 'moj is trying to figure out how to get the Rutgers QB out of jail.
do you think michael sam could help break down the walls of stereotype AND prison?
angrychicken {l Wrote}:TobaccoRoadEagle {l Wrote}:angrychicken {l Wrote}:TobaccoRoadEagle {l Wrote}:how have bcnathanlane, budcollins, endlessmike, theeaglesnestpornokid, or mo j not posted in this thread yet?
Campion must be busy and 'moj is trying to figure out how to get the Rutgers QB out of jail.
do you think michael sam could help break down the walls of stereotype AND prison?
Minimum security or maximum?
TobaccoRoadEagle {l Wrote}:angrychicken {l Wrote}:TobaccoRoadEagle {l Wrote}:angrychicken {l Wrote}:TobaccoRoadEagle {l Wrote}:how have bcnathanlane, budcollins, endlessmike, theeaglesnestpornokid, or mo j not posted in this thread yet?
Campion must be busy and 'moj is trying to figure out how to get the Rutgers QB out of jail.
do you think michael sam could help break down the walls of stereotype AND prison?
Minimum security or maximum?
depends. where's the rutgres qb?
angrychicken {l Wrote}:TobaccoRoadEagle {l Wrote}:angrychicken {l Wrote}:TobaccoRoadEagle {l Wrote}:angrychicken {l Wrote}:TobaccoRoadEagle {l Wrote}:how have bcnathanlane, budcollins, endlessmike, theeaglesnestpornokid, or mo j not posted in this thread yet?
Campion must be busy and 'moj is trying to figure out how to get the Rutgers QB out of jail.
do you think michael sam could help break down the walls of stereotype AND prison?
Minimum security or maximum?
depends. where's the rutgres qb?
What does that have to do with Social Activist Michael Sam (SAMS)?
TobaccoRoadEagle {l Wrote}:twballgame9 {l Wrote}:2001Eagle {l Wrote}:twballgame9 {l Wrote}:2001Eagle {l Wrote}:jhiggi02 {l Wrote}:angrychicken {l Wrote}:jhiggi02 {l Wrote}:
And to AC's comments, its nice to see that BC's "phenomenal" education has churned out so many socially aware alums.
Ahhhh...now I see what the problem is here.
Again, look through other posts and you will realize that I took my talents to a University around the Cambridge area instead of BC.... So I have no clue where you view the problem as coming from?
Congrats! Did you know Sean? or Will?
Point of order, that's in Boston. But funny nonetheless.
Demurrer: he said "around the Cambridge area." BHCC definitely qualifies.
I was going to make a point of order on your arcane procedural use of a pleading that only exists in two states anymore, but I will let it slide since your point is correct. AFFIRMED ON OTHER GROUNDS.
does that make his use of demurrer ironic?
TobaccoRoadEagle {l Wrote}:angrychicken {l Wrote}:TobaccoRoadEagle {l Wrote}:angrychicken {l Wrote}:TobaccoRoadEagle {l Wrote}:angrychicken {l Wrote}:TobaccoRoadEagle {l Wrote}:how have bcnathanlane, budcollins, endlessmike, theeaglesnestpornokid, or mo j not posted in this thread yet?
Campion must be busy and 'moj is trying to figure out how to get the Rutgers QB out of jail.
do you think michael sam could help break down the walls of stereotype AND prison?
Minimum security or maximum?
depends. where's the rutgres qb?
What does that have to do with Social Activist Michael Sam (SAMS)?
i figured he could use some of the goodwill he's earned by being the gayest football player ever to help bust the rutgres qb out of jail.
by the way, higgy will likely have a problem with this designation but i'm not trying to be disrespectful. we've already established that SAMS is not the first gay player so all this hype must be because he's the gayest player ever. that's all i'm trying to say
twballgame9 {l Wrote}:TobaccoRoadEagle {l Wrote}:twballgame9 {l Wrote}:2001Eagle {l Wrote}:twballgame9 {l Wrote}:2001Eagle {l Wrote}:jhiggi02 {l Wrote}:angrychicken {l Wrote}:jhiggi02 {l Wrote}:
And to AC's comments, its nice to see that BC's "phenomenal" education has churned out so many socially aware alums.
Ahhhh...now I see what the problem is here.
Again, look through other posts and you will realize that I took my talents to a University around the Cambridge area instead of BC.... So I have no clue where you view the problem as coming from?
Congrats! Did you know Sean? or Will?
Point of order, that's in Boston. But funny nonetheless.
Demurrer: he said "around the Cambridge area." BHCC definitely qualifies.
I was going to make a point of order on your arcane procedural use of a pleading that only exists in two states anymore, but I will let it slide since your point is correct. AFFIRMED ON OTHER GROUNDS.
does that make his use of demurrer ironic?
You'd have to ask him
angrychicken {l Wrote}:pick6pedro {l Wrote}:jhiggi02 {l Wrote}:twballgame9 {l Wrote}:jhiggi02 {l Wrote}:twballgame9 {l Wrote}:jhiggi02 {l Wrote}:The Sam event is a historic event that is similar to an athlete breaking the color barrier and should be respected at that same level.
No it is not. Gay athletes were in the NFL before Michael Sam. There were no black players in MLB before Jackie Robinson (other than some dude from the 1880s).
Not openly Gay(acknowledged by the public as being gay), so therefore it is the same thing as Jackie Robinson...
Using your logic, then Jackie Robinson was not the first black baseball player as there are numerous players that were of mixed race but appeared to be white.....
I'm not getting that deep into this debate, but it is not remotely close to being the same. Let's just say there is ZERO chance Michael Sam's number ends up retired in every stadium in football.
Agreed. It's not equivalent in scope as the gay community or lgbt or whatever are not segregated from the rest of society. All that I am saying is that it is similar in that it is a historic event that hopefully will aim to reduce one form of systematic oppression. Not trying to split hairs on whether or not this is LITERALLY the same thing as the Jackie Robinson event.
Gays were systematically opressed from jobs in the NFL? news to me.
Seriously. How do you explain Troy Aikman?
pick6pedro {l Wrote}:jhiggi02 {l Wrote}:twballgame9 {l Wrote}:jhiggi02 {l Wrote}:twballgame9 {l Wrote}:jhiggi02 {l Wrote}:The Sam event is a historic event that is similar to an athlete breaking the color barrier and should be respected at that same level.
No it is not. Gay athletes were in the NFL before Michael Sam. There were no black players in MLB before Jackie Robinson (other than some dude from the 1880s).
Not openly Gay(acknowledged by the public as being gay), so therefore it is the same thing as Jackie Robinson...
Using your logic, then Jackie Robinson was not the first black baseball player as there are numerous players that were of mixed race but appeared to be white.....
I'm not getting that deep into this debate, but it is not remotely close to being the same. Let's just say there is ZERO chance Michael Sam's number ends up retired in every stadium in football.
Agreed. It's not equivalent in scope as the gay community or lgbt or whatever are not segregated from the rest of society. All that I am saying is that it is similar in that it is a historic event that hopefully will aim to reduce one form of systematic oppression. Not trying to split hairs on whether or not this is LITERALLY the same thing as the Jackie Robinson event.
Gays were systematically opressed from jobs in the NFL? news to me.
pick6pedro {l Wrote}:Most historic events prompt documentaries. This one prompts an Oprah-produced reality show that has apparently been taping (and paying $) for weeks.
claver2010 {l Wrote}:pick6pedro {l Wrote}:Most historic events prompt documentaries. This one prompts an Oprah-produced reality show that has apparently been taping (and paying $) for weeks.
but it's all about football for a 7th round pick right?
jhiggi02 {l Wrote}:twballgame9 {l Wrote}:jhiggi02 {l Wrote}:twballgame9 {l Wrote}:jhiggi02 {l Wrote}:twballgame9 {l Wrote}:jhiggi02 {l Wrote}:twballgame9 {l Wrote}:jhiggi02 {l Wrote}:twballgame9 {l Wrote}:jhiggi02 {l Wrote}:The Sam event is a historic event that is similar to an athlete breaking the color barrier and should be respected at that same level.
No it is not. Gay athletes were in the NFL before Michael Sam. There were no black players in MLB before Jackie Robinson (other than some dude from the 1880s).
Not openly Gay(acknowledged by the public as being gay), so therefore it is the same thing as Jackie Robinson...
Using your logic, then Jackie Robinson was not the first black baseball player as there are numerous players that were of mixed race but appeared to be white.....
I'm not getting that deep into this debate, but it is not remotely close to being the same. Let's just say there is ZERO chance Michael Sam's number ends up retired in every stadium in football.
Agreed. It's not equivalent in scope as the gay community or lgbt or whatever are not segregated from the rest of society. All that I am saying is that it is similar in that it is a historic event that hopefully will aim to reduce one form of systematic oppression. Not trying to split hairs on whether or not this is LITERALLY the same thing as the Jackie Robinson event.
The definitions of "oppression" have changed dramatically in the past 70 years.
The definition of almost every word changes through out time. Just because it has changed doesn't mean that it has vanished and is no longer a problem.
Yes, but this change means that oppression for Michael Sam doesn't mean not being able to eat or piss anywhere in half of the country. Those differences in definition, when combined with the fact that everyone knows that there are already many gay players in the locker room, are why his situation isn't remotely in the ballpark of that of Jackie Robinson.
completely disagree. Everything is relative, so while the oppression gays experience today does not literally compare to the levels of oppression seen 70 years ago, relatively speaking to the oppression other groups face throughout society the gays are still extremely oppressed. Because everything is relative the Sam event is in the ballpark of the Jackie Robinson event, just not to the same extent of the Robinson event.
There are many other reasons why Robinson's event was more impressive, but make no mistake, the Sam event is in the same realm.
So you agree, but you are going to say you don't agree just to keep up appearances. Got it.
No, not at all. While Robinsons event was more impressive, I still believe that the Sam event is also important and will hopefully help the gay community be more widely accepted in society. I did not start this discussion to state that it is equivalent to the Rpbinson event, rather started this discussion because I think it's classless to rip on Sam (who is displaying courage) as he is an easy target. I used the Robinson event to draw a parallel between the prejudice that was prevalent during Robinsons time and Sam's time; while Robinson faced more imminent danger and hatred, Sam is also dealing with hatred and simple minded bigots.
jhiggi02 {l Wrote}:I believe that the Sam event is important and will hopefully help the gay community be more widely accepted in society. I think it's classless to rip on Sam (who is displaying courage) as he is an easy target. Sam is also dealing with hatred and simple minded bigots.
jhiggi02 {l Wrote}:For you to make this a black and white issue is comical.
jhiggi02 {l Wrote}:gallopingghost {l Wrote}:jhiggi02 {l Wrote}:angrychicken {l Wrote}:TobaccoRoadEagle {l Wrote}:
PS - to clarify, huang is calling you gay
I'm not calling him anything. I'm just trying to figure out why he thinks that Michael Sam was "ripped" (his word) here. All I see is a lame joke about Sam's gayness and a couple of other little shots. Nobody really made a statement for or against the fact that Sam is an openly gay football player. I feel like jhiggi is making overly broad accusations about the people that post here, and I feel like it is my duty to stand up for the community that I represent. His statements reek of the pot painting the kettle in the glass house a hypocrite.
p.s. - tre is not calling you gay, as he is sensitive to the subject (his brother, Ping Jang, has been known to dabble)
I view the little gay jokes and few shots that you reference as Sam being ripped. Not only is it not funny, nor original to rip on Sam for being gay, I think that it is also inappropriate due to the significance of this event.
In no way, shape or form am I being hypocritical, I am just saying that I am disappointed in the ignorance displayed by some posters here.
So how did you feel about all of the jokes about Tim Tebow and his faith? Was Tebow being ripped?
You need to stop being humorless.
The Christian Right (one of the most powerful factions in the history of the world) and the lgbt community have nothing in common regarding this argument. Are you fucking serious? I sincerely hope that you did not grab a bc diploma.
jhiggi02 {l Wrote}:While the Rams may have drafted Sam for the publicity, in no way were they or any other team coerced into drafting Sam.
pick6pedro {l Wrote}:jhiggi02 {l Wrote}:While the Rams may have drafted Sam for the publicity, in no way were they or any other team coerced into drafting Sam.
I'm still wondering where this great "ripping" is that set you off. and I'm sure I'll still be wondering after you dodge this post directly or indirectly.
jhiggi02 {l Wrote}:Nah No Hampshire or Brown.
and I just read about the Sam reality TV show. I think that he is making a mistake with that.
jhiggi02 {l Wrote}:DomingoOrtiz {l Wrote}:pick6pedro {l Wrote}:jhiggi02 {l Wrote}:While the Rams may have drafted Sam for the publicity, in no way were they or any other team coerced into drafting Sam.
I'm still wondering where this great "ripping" is that set you off. and I'm sure I'll still be wondering after you dodge this post directly or indirectly.
Like asking 74 to explain fagtagging. We may never know...
The ripping of Sam was the combination of TW's joke and the preceding comment that prompted TW's joke.
jhiggi02 {l Wrote}:DavidGordonsFoot {l Wrote}:jhiggi02 {l Wrote}:twballgame9 {l Wrote}:gallopingghost {l Wrote}:Endless Mike {l Wrote}:I was really hoping they'd pick up a tight end so they can be more prepared when Gronk goes down with his next season-ending injury.
They missed a golden opportunity when they did not draft Michael Sam, and they could have made history at the same time.
This probably deserves a rimshot.
What originality displayed by TW..... A Michael Sam joke.
Fucking brilliant big guy, way to think outside the box
Wait. Wasn't ghost the one who made the joke? TW just mocked the lame joke.
I completely missed that My bad TW. Ghost your a pos.
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