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Re: Rogers was fired

PostPosted: Fri Sep 16, 2011 7:54 pm
by angrychicken
h2o {l Wrote}:
eagle216 {l Wrote}:I thought Gene went out of his way to say that he played no role in the Rogers hire. If so, than Rogers is not his guy. So if Rogers is also not Spaz' guy, than whose guy was he? If this is true that Gene is even more or a dick than I thought.


Gene did go out of his way to say he had no role in the Rodgers hiring. Gene is a much more of dick than you thought.

If anybody has any belief in what Gene says, please leave the room. This has gotten rediculous.

Re: Rogers was fired

PostPosted: Fri Sep 16, 2011 7:55 pm
by billyshelby
ATL, are you done writing about the Rogers situation, or will there be followup?

Re: Rogers was fired

PostPosted: Fri Sep 16, 2011 8:04 pm
by DomingoOrtiz
billyshelby {l Wrote}:ATL, are you done writing about the Rogers situation, or will there be followup?



ATL, I hope you don't own a horse.

Re: Rogers was fired

PostPosted: Fri Sep 16, 2011 8:28 pm
by ATLeagle
BCFAN94 {l Wrote}:
bcnyceagle {l Wrote}:
BCFAN94 {l Wrote}:
ATLeagle {l Wrote}:It is pretty well known who I am. I used to cover the team as a student. Since I have worked freelance for various sites. I've said from the beginning on this that I cannot prove it beyond saying it is what happened.


Nothing personal, I know you don't hide your identity but why don't you have to substantiate these statements you make? Gene DeFillipo and Frank Spaziani are real people with families, responsibilities and reputations. How can you or I come along and make statements about them that may not be true with out any proof? This is the whole problem with the media. Someone makes a statement about someone that may not be accurate and the burden of proof is on the accused instead of the accuser.


Because he can't publicize his sources... this isn't rocket science.


No, it's not rocket science, it's unsubstantiated irresponsible character assassination of employees of Boston College that reflects poorly on the institution as a whole. It's the old "when did you stop beating your wife?" question. ATL definitly has something to gain by riding this wave. I am sure he gets more eyes on his blog, name and advances his career dreams of being the next Mike Farrell by publicizing these "facts". Put up or shut up!


I don't even know where to start with this, but let me first state that Gene, Spaz and Rogers are all public figures. I am not a lawyer but commenting on their job performance and challenging their public statements is pretty fair game. As for the "real people, with real lives" argument Jags, Skinner, Inglese, Jim Turner, and Jack Bicknell Jr are all real people, with real live and real families, whom Gene D lied about publicly and privately to serve his own agenda.

If I was unwelcome, unwanted or doing harm to BC, then the school would not come to visit me at my home in Atlanta every year, would not to take my money and would certainly not host me at events and ask me to be part of committees.

I have no desire to be Mike Farrell. If anything one of the reasons Scout was such a flame out for me was my unwillingness to chase recruits.

I would love to say who told me. It is not the same person who told me about Ryan Day if that makes any difference. Do these people have agendas? Of course. Am I being used by people who don't like the current situation? Of course.

The situation sucked from the beginning and is only getting worse. The two guys most responsible for this screwed up situation are the co-dependents running our football program.

The reason I started blogging is because I was disgusted how much the media (including EA) covered for TOB after the Syracuse loss. So my MO hasn't really changed -- when something stinks I will say it does. Blauds wrote as scathing an article as he could given his relationship with Spaz and his need to fly on BC's planes. If you think this situation is not fucked up, you are wearing blinders.

Re: Rogers was fired

PostPosted: Fri Sep 16, 2011 8:37 pm
by cvilleagle
This thread has reached a good point for TRE to post "child pornography" to shut it down.

Re: Rogers was fired

PostPosted: Fri Sep 16, 2011 8:49 pm
by flyingelvii
BCFAN94 {l Wrote}:
bcnyceagle {l Wrote}:
BCFAN94 {l Wrote}:
ATLeagle {l Wrote}:It is pretty well known who I am. I used to cover the team as a student. Since I have worked freelance for various sites. I've said from the beginning on this that I cannot prove it beyond saying it is what happened.


Nothing personal, I know you don't hide your identity but why don't you have to substantiate these statements you make? Gene DeFillipo and Frank Spaziani are real people with families, responsibilities and reputations. How can you or I come along and make statements about them that may not be true with out any proof? This is the whole problem with the media. Someone makes a statement about someone that may not be accurate and the burden of proof is on the accused instead of the accuser.


Because he can't publicize his sources... this isn't rocket science.


No, it's not rocket science, it's unsubstantiated irresponsible character assassination of employees of Boston College that reflects poorly on the institution as a whole. It's the old "when did you stop beating your wife?" question. ATL definitly has something to gain by riding this wave. I am sure he gets more eyes on his blog, name and advances his career dreams of being the next Mike Farrell by publicizing these "facts". Put up or shut up!

Not a big Scott Templeton fan, I see?

Re: Rogers was fired

PostPosted: Fri Sep 16, 2011 8:58 pm
by DomingoOrtiz
ATLeagle {l Wrote}:
BCFAN94 {l Wrote}:
bcnyceagle {l Wrote}:
BCFAN94 {l Wrote}:
ATLeagle {l Wrote}:It is pretty well known who I am. I used to cover the team as a student. Since I have worked freelance for various sites. I've said from the beginning on this that I cannot prove it beyond saying it is what happened.


Nothing personal, I know you don't hide your identity but why don't you have to substantiate these statements you make? Gene DeFillipo and Frank Spaziani are real people with families, responsibilities and reputations. How can you or I come along and make statements about them that may not be true with out any proof? This is the whole problem with the media. Someone makes a statement about someone that may not be accurate and the burden of proof is on the accused instead of the accuser.


Because he can't publicize his sources... this isn't rocket science.


No, it's not rocket science, it's unsubstantiated irresponsible character assassination of employees of Boston College that reflects poorly on the institution as a whole. It's the old "when did you stop beating your wife?" question. ATL definitly has something to gain by riding this wave. I am sure he gets more eyes on his blog, name and advances his career dreams of being the next Mike Farrell by publicizing these "facts". Put up or shut up!


As for the "real people, with real lives" argument Jags, Skinner, Inglese, Jim Turner, and Jack Bicknell Jr are all real people, with real live and real families, whom Gene D lied about publicly and privately to serve his own agenda.


I would love to hear more about this, well except for Inglese because I don't give a shit about nag hoops.

Re: Rogers was fired

PostPosted: Fri Sep 16, 2011 8:58 pm
by NorthEndEagle
bcnyceagle {l Wrote}:
BCFAN94 {l Wrote}:
ATLeagle {l Wrote}:It is pretty well known who I am. I used to cover the team as a student. Since I have worked freelance for various sites. I've said from the beginning on this that I cannot prove it beyond saying it is what happened.


Nothing personal, I know you don't hide your identity but why don't you have to substantiate these statements you make? Gene DeFillipo and Frank Spaziani are real people with families, responsibilities and reputations. How can you or I come along and make statements about them that may not be true with out any proof? This is the whole problem with the media. Someone makes a statement about someone that may not be accurate and the burden of proof is on the accused instead of the accuser.


Because he can't publicize his sources... this isn't rocket science. Take unsubstantiated rumors for what their worth. They're coming from a guy without an agenda, whose been generally accurate in the past (with admitted notable exceptions). Judge for yourself, don't shoot the messenger.


Coming from "a guy without an agenda"?!!!!? ATL's whole anti GDF/Spaz campaign he has been pushing for 2+ years is 100% because of his agenda. He had a very close conection to Jags. He will never forgive GDF for letting Jags go, no matter what the reason was. And he has been very wrong recently. I would say his breaking the news that Day was the new OC lost him a little cred.

ATL does a great job. He runs the best BC blog out there. He's a BC guy all the way, but he absolutely has an agenda! It is what it is. However, I'm sure he believes he has the BCs best interest in mind.

Fact is there is probably more to the Rogers thing than meets the eye but I do not for one sec believe or think he was fired. Was it a mutual parting of the ways maybe, was his heart not in it maybe, was he sick maybe, or maybe it's some combination. Who knows?

Re: Rogers was fired

PostPosted: Fri Sep 16, 2011 9:01 pm
by billyshelby
In another subplot, does anyone have anything on Day?

Re: Rogers was fired

PostPosted: Fri Sep 16, 2011 9:07 pm
by ATLeagle
NorthEndEagle {l Wrote}:
bcnyceagle {l Wrote}:
BCFAN94 {l Wrote}:
ATLeagle {l Wrote}:It is pretty well known who I am. I used to cover the team as a student. Since I have worked freelance for various sites. I've said from the beginning on this that I cannot prove it beyond saying it is what happened.


Nothing personal, I know you don't hide your identity but why don't you have to substantiate these statements you make? Gene DeFillipo and Frank Spaziani are real people with families, responsibilities and reputations. How can you or I come along and make statements about them that may not be true with out any proof? This is the whole problem with the media. Someone makes a statement about someone that may not be accurate and the burden of proof is on the accused instead of the accuser.


Because he can't publicize his sources... this isn't rocket science. Take unsubstantiated rumors for what their worth. They're coming from a guy without an agenda, whose been generally accurate in the past (with admitted notable exceptions). Judge for yourself, don't shoot the messenger.


Coming from "a guy without an agenda"?!!!!? ATL's whole anti GDF/Spaz campaign he has been pushing for 2+ years is 100% because of his agenda. He had a very close conection to Jags. He will never forgive GDF for letting Jags go, no matter what the reason was. And he has been very wrong recently. I would say his breaking the news that Day was the new OC lost him a little cred.

ATL does a great job. He runs the best BC blog out there. He's a BC guy all the way, but he absolutely has an agenda! It is what it is. However, I'm sure he believes he has the BCs best interest in mind.

Fact is there is probably more to the Rogers thing than meets the eye but I do not for one sec believe or think he was fired. Was it a mutual parting of the ways maybe, was his heart not in it maybe, was he sick maybe, or maybe it's some combination. Who knows?



Northend is well meaning too, but Gene signs his paychecks so take that for what it is worth. Do you want to split hairs on firing/losing his job. Northend, answer the following questions since you are there in the building:

1. Did Kevin Rogers know he was losing his job when he entered the meeting?
2. Did Kevin Rogers want to leave BC prior to that meeting?
3. Did Kevin Rogers "health" have anything to do with why he is no longer the OC at BC?

You can spin it and say it was mutual, but Rogers didn't know he was losing his job and didn't want to leave prior to that meeting.

Re: Rogers was fired

PostPosted: Fri Sep 16, 2011 9:39 pm
by billyshelby
This thread just gets better and better. So Northend works for Gene? I assume ATL isn't giving us all the details he knows about what happened to protect his source, but I hope this story will eventually come out.

Re: Rogers was fired

PostPosted: Fri Sep 16, 2011 9:41 pm
by DomingoOrtiz
billyshelby {l Wrote}:This thread just gets better and better. So Northend works for Gene? I assume ATL isn't giving us all the details he knows about what happened to protect his source, but I hope this story will eventually come out.



A minion among us!

Re: Rogers was fired

PostPosted: Fri Sep 16, 2011 9:48 pm
by billyshelby
DomingoOrtiz {l Wrote}:
billyshelby {l Wrote}:This thread just gets better and better. So Northend works for Gene? I assume ATL isn't giving us all the details he knows about what happened to protect his source, but I hope this story will eventually come out.



A minion among us!


I just want the story. For the record, my dream is pictures of Gene and Spaz come to light that even TRE won't post.

Re: Rogers was fired

PostPosted: Fri Sep 16, 2011 9:58 pm
by bcnyceagle
DomingoOrtiz {l Wrote}:
billyshelby {l Wrote}:This thread just gets better and better. So Northend works for Gene? I assume ATL isn't giving us all the details he knows about what happened to protect his source, but I hope this story will eventually come out.



A minion among us!


What, you thought Big Brother would let this place go unfettered? GDF and the merrymen are compiling his list of thoughtcrime indictments as we speak.

Re: Rogers was fired

PostPosted: Fri Sep 16, 2011 10:03 pm
by bigmoneysox
billyshelby {l Wrote}:In another subplot, does anyone have anything on Day?


Ryan Day is still the Wide Receivers coach, he has not resigned

Re: Rogers was fired

PostPosted: Fri Sep 16, 2011 10:40 pm
by claver2010
billyshelby {l Wrote}:This thread just gets better and better. So Northend works for Gene? I assume ATL isn't giving us all the details he knows about what happened to protect his source, but I hope this story will eventually come out.


You didn't know that NorthEnd/BeaconFavre/BlueEnigma/FlyingTomato/Sahonte is the video coordinator for BC?

Re: Rogers was fired

PostPosted: Fri Sep 16, 2011 11:02 pm
by billyshelby
claver2010 {l Wrote}:
billyshelby {l Wrote}:This thread just gets better and better. So Northend works for Gene? I assume ATL isn't giving us all the details he knows about what happened to protect his source, but I hope this story will eventually come out.


You didn't know that NorthEnd/BeaconFavre/BlueEnigma/FlyingTomato/Sahonte is the video coordinator for BC?


No. What do I win?

Re: Rogers was fired

PostPosted: Fri Sep 16, 2011 11:35 pm
by eagle216
NorthEndEagle {l Wrote}:
bcnyceagle {l Wrote}:
BCFAN94 {l Wrote}:
ATLeagle {l Wrote}:It is pretty well known who I am. I used to cover the team as a student. Since I have worked freelance for various sites. I've said from the beginning on this that I cannot prove it beyond saying it is what happened.


Nothing personal, I know you don't hide your identity but why don't you have to substantiate these statements you make? Gene DeFillipo and Frank Spaziani are real people with families, responsibilities and reputations. How can you or I come along and make statements about them that may not be true with out any proof? This is the whole problem with the media. Someone makes a statement about someone that may not be accurate and the burden of proof is on the accused instead of the accuser.


Because he can't publicize his sources... this isn't rocket science. Take unsubstantiated rumors for what their worth. They're coming from a guy without an agenda, whose been generally accurate in the past (with admitted notable exceptions). Judge for yourself, don't shoot the messenger.


Coming from "a guy without an agenda"?!!!!? ATL's whole anti GDF/Spaz campaign he has been pushing for 2+ years is 100% because of his agenda. He had a very close conection to Jags. He will never forgive GDF for letting Jags go, no matter what the reason was. And he has been very wrong recently. I would say his breaking the news that Day was the new OC lost him a little cred.

ATL does a great job. He runs the best BC blog out there. He's a BC guy all the way, but he absolutely has an agenda! It is what it is. However, I'm sure he believes he has the BCs best interest in mind.

Fact is there is probably more to the Rogers thing than meets the eye but I do not for one sec believe or think he was fired. Was it a mutual parting of the ways maybe, was his heart not in it maybe, was he sick maybe, or maybe it's some combination. Who knows?


This is what I hate about people who sloppily play the "agenda" card. Atleagle does not have an agenda against Spaz/Gene. He has an agenda against people who are fucking up his beloved football team. When Spaz/Gene stop fucking up his football team, Atleagle will STFU about Spaz/Gene.

If Gene woke up, fired Spaz, hired Urban Meyer, and got out of the way, than Atleagle would remove his foot from Gene's ass. I don't seem to recall Atleagle spewing much negativity towards Spaz when he was hummin' along as a successful d-coordinator.

Re: Rogers was fired

PostPosted: Fri Sep 16, 2011 11:42 pm
by bosa90
NorthEndEagle {l Wrote}:
bcnyceagle {l Wrote}:
BCFAN94 {l Wrote}:
ATLeagle {l Wrote}:It is pretty well known who I am. I used to cover the team as a student. Since I have worked freelance for various sites. I've said from the beginning on this that I cannot prove it beyond saying it is what happened.


Nothing personal, I know you don't hide your identity but why don't you have to substantiate these statements you make? Gene DeFillipo and Frank Spaziani are real people with families, responsibilities and reputations. How can you or I come along and make statements about them that may not be true with out any proof? This is the whole problem with the media. Someone makes a statement about someone that may not be accurate and the burden of proof is on the accused instead of the accuser.


Because he can't publicize his sources... this isn't rocket science. Take unsubstantiated rumors for what their worth. They're coming from a guy without an agenda, whose been generally accurate in the past (with admitted notable exceptions). Judge for yourself, don't shoot the messenger.


Coming from "a guy without an agenda"?!!!!? ATL's whole anti GDF/Spaz campaign he has been pushing for 2+ years is 100% because of his agenda. He had a very close conection to Jags. He will never forgive GDF for letting Jags go, no matter what the reason was. And he has been very wrong recently. I would say his breaking the news that Day was the new OC lost him a little cred.

ATL does a great job. He runs the best BC blog out there. He's a BC guy all the way, but he absolutely has an agenda! It is what it is. However, I'm sure he believes he has the BCs best interest in mind.

Fact is there is probably more to the Rogers thing than meets the eye but I do not for one sec believe or think he was fired. Was it a mutual parting of the ways maybe, was his heart not in it maybe, was he sick maybe, or maybe it's some combination. Who knows?


ATL's agenda? DIAF you dumb shit. ATL's agenda is the same as mine - to watch our school excel. God bless him for doing what he does.

In short, go ATl. And suck it, dickless.



:dildodog

Re: Rogers was fired

PostPosted: Fri Sep 16, 2011 11:46 pm
by weinerdog
angrychicken {l Wrote}:
h2o {l Wrote}:
eagle216 {l Wrote}:I thought Gene went out of his way to say that he played no role in the Rogers hire. If so, than Rogers is not his guy. So if Rogers is also not Spaz' guy, than whose guy was he? If this is true that Gene is even more or a dick than I thought.


Gene did go out of his way to say he had no role in the Rodgers hiring. Gene is a much more of dick than you thought.

If anybody has any credibility in what Gene says, please leave the room. This has gotten rediculous.


Well now, hold on just a minute there. My best friend's sister's boyfriend's brother's girlfriend heard from this guy who knows this kid who's going with the girl who saw Rogers pass out at 31 Flavors last night. I guess it's pretty serious.

I believe Gene...is a lying liar who lies.

Re: Rogers was fired

PostPosted: Sat Sep 17, 2011 6:19 am
by BCFAN94
ATLeagle {l Wrote}:
BCFAN94 {l Wrote}:
bcnyceagle {l Wrote}:
BCFAN94 {l Wrote}:
ATLeagle {l Wrote}:It is pretty well known who I am. I used to cover the team as a student. Since I have worked freelance for various sites. I've said from the beginning on this that I cannot prove it beyond saying it is what happened.


Nothing personal, I know you don't hide your identity but why don't you have to substantiate these statements you make? Gene DeFillipo and Frank Spaziani are real people with families, responsibilities and reputations. How can you or I come along and make statements about them that may not be true with out any proof? This is the whole problem with the media. Someone makes a statement about someone that may not be accurate and the burden of proof is on the accused instead of the accuser.


Because he can't publicize his sources... this isn't rocket science.


No, it's not rocket science, it's unsubstantiated irresponsible character assassination of employees of Boston College that reflects poorly on the institution as a whole. It's the old "when did you stop beating your wife?" question. ATL definitly has something to gain by riding this wave. I am sure he gets more eyes on his blog, name and advances his career dreams of being the next Mike Farrell by publicizing these "facts". Put up or shut up!


I don't even know where to start with this, but let me first state that Gene, Spaz and Rogers are all public figures. I am not a lawyer but commenting on their job performance and challenging their public statements is pretty fair game. As for the "real people, with real lives" argument Jags, Skinner, Inglese, Jim Turner, and Jack Bicknell Jr are all real people, with real live and real families, whom Gene D lied about publicly and privately to serve his own agenda.

If I was unwelcome, unwanted or doing harm to BC, then the school would not come to visit me at my home in Atlanta every year, would not to take my money and would certainly not host me at events and ask me to be part of committees.

I have no desire to be Mike Farrell. If anything one of the reasons Scout was such a flame out for me was my unwillingness to chase recruits.

I would love to say who told me. It is not the same person who told me about Ryan Day if that makes any difference. Do these people have agendas? Of course. Am I being used by people who don't like the current situation? Of course.

The situation sucked from the beginning and is only getting worse. The two guys most responsible for this screwed up situation are the co-dependents running our football program.

The reason I started blogging is because I was disgusted how much the media (including EA) covered for TOB after the Syracuse loss. So my MO hasn't really changed -- when something stinks I will say it does. Blauds wrote as scathing an article as he could given his relationship with Spaz and his need to fly on BC's planes. If you think this situation is not fucked up, you are wearing blinders.


I am not wearing blinders, I know the program is not being well run, I am not a fan of Gene and believe Spaz has had his fair chance. The performance on the field shows it. I don't need to start making unsubstantiated personal attacks on them to make it look worse than it is, it's bad and should be fixed, they can't hide two national TV losses that would have been 20 point wins four years ago. Public figures or not, it ain't right to float shit out there that you are not willing to back up especially if you tout yourself some kind of insider quasi-journalist that is not bound journalistic rules or by "having" to ride on a plane with the team and staff.

You tweet and post that Rodgers was fired without comment. You then re-tweet Gene's response with no comment, no blog entry and no post that I see. Now when I ask for proof or some substantiation, you give me your resume and say you do this stuff for the good of BC while trying to say that I don't believe the situation is screwed up, which I have never said. Just look at the comments in this thread that resulted from your tweet/post. One sentence-"Rodgers was fired" and read some of the 200 conclusion jumping posts. Like I have said, I am no fan of the current AD or HC but I can't imagine they are bad people, they dedicate a lot of time and effort to BC, if they are not doing the job, they should be let go. I don't see any need to try to ruin their lives on the way out.

All I am asking for is some substantiation other than "because I love BC and because I said so" before you drop bombs and walk away.

Gene said publically that he has fired people before and if he fired someone he would admit it. You retweeted it without comment, What is your and/or your sources response to that?

Re: Rogers was fired

PostPosted: Sat Sep 17, 2011 8:09 am
by rktbrkr
BC football is in a deathspiral, they're fighting it out for ACC anchorman with Dook and Wake now. A loss to UMass makes them a NE laughing stock that is already dodging UConn. BC needs to make a decision at the top quickly if they are contented to be a good school with a bad football team because inaction will make the decision for them. They have difficulty recruiting good players now as a 7-5,8-4 team and that will be a lot more of a problem as a 2-10 team with coaching chaos.

Recruiting the players they need to win will force them to reach deeper into the questionable recruit bucket but academics alone isn't a strong recruiting tool - just look at the results at Duke,WF,Vandy etc. BC needs to make a commitment to devote the $$$ resources necessary to hire and keep competent coaches who can recruit players who can compete at a high level and fill the stadium and build a strong TV market. In the long run it will cost them less than what is happening now but I think they're really comfortable being a Jesuit Wake Forest.

We don't know Rogers situation but I don't think he'd abruptly leave a 2-0 team with a bad back. Whether he jumped or was pushed is a footnote in the developing drama.

Re: Rogers was fired

PostPosted: Sat Sep 17, 2011 8:55 am
by Snooptonydog
IMO someone was really sucking big time and Spaz's forte is defense, not offense. Therefore, ergo cogito sum, Rogers was the one that had to go. If the season goes south very badly, then it twill be Spaz's turn.

And if the next FB hire is crappy, then I do believe GDF should go. ALL MUST GO.

Re: Rogers was fired

PostPosted: Sat Sep 17, 2011 9:14 am
by RegalBCeagle
BCFAN94 {l Wrote}:I am not wearing blinders, I know the program is not being well run, I am not a fan of Gene and believe Spaz has had his fair chance. The performance on the field shows it. I don't need to start making unsubstantiated personal attacks on them to make it look worse than it is, it's bad and should be fixed, they can't hide two national TV losses that would have been 20 point wins four years ago. Public figures or not, it ain't right to float shit out there that you are not willing to back up especially if you tout yourself some kind of insider quasi-journalist that is not bound journalistic rules or by "having" to ride on a plane with the team and staff.

You tweet and post that Rodgers was fired without comment. You then re-tweet Gene's response with no comment, no blog entry and no post that I see. Now when I ask for proof or some substantiation, you give me your resume and say you do this stuff for the good of BC while trying to say that I don't believe the situation is screwed up, which I have never said. Just look at the comments in this thread that resulted from your tweet/post. One sentence-"Rodgers was fired" and read some of the 200 conclusion jumping posts. Like I have said, I am no fan of the current AD or HC but I can't imagine they are bad people, they dedicate a lot of time and effort to BC, if they are not doing the job, they should be let go. I don't see any need to try to ruin their lives on the way out.

All I am asking for is some substantiation other than "because I love BC and because I said so" before you drop bombs and walk away.

Gene said publically that he has fired people before and if he fired someone he would admit it. You retweeted it without comment, What is your and/or your sources response to that?


You are a stupid fuckface. In case you haven't noticed, times have changed. Look at any news outlet and you'll see the latest news scrolled on tickers, tweeted on Twitter, posted on Facebook. Gone are the days of researching a lead for days or months to have it 100% straight. Also gone are the days when the news-makers actually tell the truth when questioned about something. You have what appears to be a story and you run with it. I don't fault ATL for doing this - it's clear someone closer to the situation than any of us passed this info along and ATL felt it was credible enough to report it - full details aside at that point.

Gene is clearly a smarmy, self-important, egomaniacal ballbag. You clearly want to lick this ballbag. I will give a lot of credence to the notion that Rogers was in essence fired, or at least told he was no longer wanted around here as opposed to Gene and Spaz's story that he was taking a leave of absence for health reasons and that we should all respect his privacy. Which story sounds more bogus? To a 74, liberal, whalepant-wearing ballwasher like yourself, I'm sure you'll go with the crap spewed forth by the very individuals that are responsible for the downward spiral this football team is in. When BC loses to Duke today, I'd love to see your comments then.

Re: Rogers was fired

PostPosted: Sat Sep 17, 2011 9:15 am
by angrychicken
BCFAN94 {l Wrote}:
ATLeagle {l Wrote}:
BCFAN94 {l Wrote}:
bcnyceagle {l Wrote}:
BCFAN94 {l Wrote}:
ATLeagle {l Wrote}:It is pretty well known who I am. I used to cover the team as a student. Since I have worked freelance for various sites. I've said from the beginning on this that I cannot prove it beyond saying it is what happened.


Nothing personal, I know you don't hide your identity but why don't you have to substantiate these statements you make? Gene DeFillipo and Frank Spaziani are real people with families, responsibilities and reputations. How can you or I come along and make statements about them that may not be true with out any proof? This is the whole problem with the media. Someone makes a statement about someone that may not be accurate and the burden of proof is on the accused instead of the accuser.


Because he can't publicize his sources... this isn't rocket science.


No, it's not rocket science, it's unsubstantiated irresponsible character assassination of employees of Boston College that reflects poorly on the institution as a whole. It's the old "when did you stop beating your wife?" question. ATL definitly has something to gain by riding this wave. I am sure he gets more eyes on his blog, name and advances his career dreams of being the next Mike Farrell by publicizing these "facts". Put up or shut up!


I don't even know where to start with this, but let me first state that Gene, Spaz and Rogers are all public figures. I am not a lawyer but commenting on their job performance and challenging their public statements is pretty fair game. As for the "real people, with real lives" argument Jags, Skinner, Inglese, Jim Turner, and Jack Bicknell Jr are all real people, with real live and real families, whom Gene D lied about publicly and privately to serve his own agenda.

If I was unwelcome, unwanted or doing harm to BC, then the school would not come to visit me at my home in Atlanta every year, would not to take my money and would certainly not host me at events and ask me to be part of committees.

I have no desire to be Mike Farrell. If anything one of the reasons Scout was such a flame out for me was my unwillingness to chase recruits.

I would love to say who told me. It is not the same person who told me about Ryan Day if that makes any difference. Do these people have agendas? Of course. Am I being used by people who don't like the current situation? Of course.

The situation sucked from the beginning and is only getting worse. The two guys most responsible for this screwed up situation are the co-dependents running our football program.

The reason I started blogging is because I was disgusted how much the media (including EA) covered for TOB after the Syracuse loss. So my MO hasn't really changed -- when something stinks I will say it does. Blauds wrote as scathing an article as he could given his relationship with Spaz and his need to fly on BC's planes. If you think this situation is not fucked up, you are wearing blinders.


I am not wearing blinders, I know the program is not being well run, I am not a fan of Gene and believe Spaz has had his fair chance. The performance on the field shows it. I don't need to start making unsubstantiated personal attacks on them to make it look worse than it is, it's bad and should be fixed, they can't hide two national TV losses that would have been 20 point wins four years ago. Public figures or not, it ain't right to float shit out there that you are not willing to back up especially if you tout yourself some kind of insider quasi-journalist that is not bound journalistic rules or by "having" to ride on a plane with the team and staff.

You tweet and post that Rodgers was fired without comment. You then re-tweet Gene's response with no comment, no blog entry and no post that I see. Now when I ask for proof or some substantiation, you give me your resume and say you do this stuff for the good of BC while trying to say that I don't believe the situation is screwed up, which I have never said. Just look at the comments in this thread that resulted from your tweet/post. One sentence-"Rodgers was fired" and read some of the 200 conclusion jumping posts. Like I have said, I am no fan of the current AD or HC but I can't imagine they are bad people, they dedicate a lot of time and effort to BC, if they are not doing the job, they should be let go. I don't see any need to try to ruin their lives on the way out.

All I am asking for is some substantiation other than "because I love BC and because I said so" before you drop bombs and walk away.

Gene said publically that he has fired people before and if he fired someone he would admit it. You retweeted it without comment, What is your and/or your sources response to that?


Re: Rogers was fired

PostPosted: Sat Sep 17, 2011 9:38 am
by Snooptonydog
I blame everybody really for this disastrous season. The OC, the HC, the QB etc.....

ALL MUST GO - that includes GDF, Spaz, Rogers, Rettig, EagleCaddy, Kuechly, the entire freshman student body... ALL MUST GO!

Re: Rogers was fired

PostPosted: Sat Sep 17, 2011 9:54 am
by weinerdog
BCFAN94 {l Wrote}:
ATLeagle {l Wrote}:
BCFAN94 {l Wrote}:
bcnyceagle {l Wrote}:
BCFAN94 {l Wrote}:
ATLeagle {l Wrote}:It is pretty well known who I am. I used to cover the team as a student. Since I have worked freelance for various sites. I've said from the beginning on this that I cannot prove it beyond saying it is what happened.


Nothing personal, I know you don't hide your identity but why don't you have to substantiate these statements you make? Gene DeFillipo and Frank Spaziani are real people with families, responsibilities and reputations. How can you or I come along and make statements about them that may not be true with out any proof? This is the whole problem with the media. Someone makes a statement about someone that may not be accurate and the burden of proof is on the accused instead of the accuser.


Because he can't publicize his sources... this isn't rocket science.


No, it's not rocket science, it's unsubstantiated irresponsible character assassination of employees of Boston College that reflects poorly on the institution as a whole. It's the old "when did you stop beating your wife?" question. ATL definitly has something to gain by riding this wave. I am sure he gets more eyes on his blog, name and advances his career dreams of being the next Mike Farrell by publicizing these "facts". Put up or shut up!


I don't even know where to start with this, but let me first state that Gene, Spaz and Rogers are all public figures. I am not a lawyer but commenting on their job performance and challenging their public statements is pretty fair game. As for the "real people, with real lives" argument Jags, Skinner, Inglese, Jim Turner, and Jack Bicknell Jr are all real people, with real live and real families, whom Gene D lied about publicly and privately to serve his own agenda.

If I was unwelcome, unwanted or doing harm to BC, then the school would not come to visit me at my home in Atlanta every year, would not to take my money and would certainly not host me at events and ask me to be part of committees.

I have no desire to be Mike Farrell. If anything one of the reasons Scout was such a flame out for me was my unwillingness to chase recruits.

I would love to say who told me. It is not the same person who told me about Ryan Day if that makes any difference. Do these people have agendas? Of course. Am I being used by people who don't like the current situation? Of course.

The situation sucked from the beginning and is only getting worse. The two guys most responsible for this screwed up situation are the co-dependents running our football program.

The reason I started blogging is because I was disgusted how much the media (including EA) covered for TOB after the Syracuse loss. So my MO hasn't really changed -- when something stinks I will say it does. Blauds wrote as scathing an article as he could given his relationship with Spaz and his need to fly on BC's planes. If you think this situation is not fucked up, you are wearing blinders.


I am not wearing blinders, I know the program is not being well run, I am not a fan of Gene and believe Spaz has had his fair chance. The performance on the field shows it. I don't need to start making unsubstantiated personal attacks on them to make it look worse than it is, it's bad and should be fixed, they can't hide two national TV losses that would have been 20 point wins four years ago. Public figures or not, it ain't right to float shit out there that you are not willing to back up especially if you tout yourself some kind of insider quasi-journalist that is not bound journalistic rules or by "having" to ride on a plane with the team and staff.

You tweet and post that Rodgers was fired without comment. You then re-tweet Gene's response with no comment, no blog entry and no post that I see. Now when I ask for proof or some substantiation, you give me your resume and say you do this stuff for the good of BC while trying to say that I don't believe the situation is screwed up, which I have never said. Just look at the comments in this thread that resulted from your tweet/post. One sentence-"Rodgers was fired" and read some of the 200 conclusion jumping posts. Like I have said, I am no fan of the current AD or HC but I can't imagine they are bad people, they dedicate a lot of time and effort to BC, if they are not doing the job, they should be let go. I don't see any need to try to ruin their lives on the way out.

All I am asking for is some substantiation other than "because I love BC and because I said so" before you drop bombs and walk away.

Gene said publically that he has fired people before and if he fired someone he would admit it. You retweeted it without comment, What is your and/or your sources response to that?


It was fucking Deep Throat, okay?

So, bottom line is you're asking him to publicly naming his sources. Has it ever occurred to you that doing so only would further undermine the work environment within the football program and make a bad situation worse. That's why journalists DON'T publicly reveal sources a lot of the time. What ATL claims HAS substantiation--I can vouch for that--whether or not his/my source is ever identified. Live with it. And shame on you for pressing the matter.

Re: Rogers was fired

PostPosted: Sat Sep 17, 2011 9:58 am
by hansen
someone please post the halloween costume photo... this thread needs to be aborted.

Re: Rogers was fired

PostPosted: Sat Sep 17, 2011 12:33 pm
by HustlinOwl
I love this place. Hugs.

Re: Rogers was fired

PostPosted: Sat Sep 17, 2011 1:16 pm
by eaglecaddy
BCFAN94 {l Wrote}:
ATLeagle {l Wrote}:
BCFAN94 {l Wrote}:
bcnyceagle {l Wrote}:
BCFAN94 {l Wrote}:
ATLeagle {l Wrote}:It is pretty well known who I am. I used to cover the team as a student. Since I have worked freelance for various sites. I've said from the beginning on this that I cannot prove it beyond saying it is what happened.


Nothing personal, I know you don't hide your identity but why don't you have to substantiate these statements you make? Gene DeFillipo and Frank Spaziani are real people with families, responsibilities and reputations. How can you or I come along and make statements about them that may not be true with out any proof? This is the whole problem with the media. Someone makes a statement about someone that may not be accurate and the burden of proof is on the accused instead of the accuser.


Because he can't publicize his sources... this isn't rocket science.


No, it's not rocket science, it's unsubstantiated irresponsible character assassination of employees of Boston College that reflects poorly on the institution as a whole. It's the old "when did you stop beating your wife?" question. ATL definitly has something to gain by riding this wave. I am sure he gets more eyes on his blog, name and advances his career dreams of being the next Mike Farrell by publicizing these "facts". Put up or shut up!


I don't even know where to start with this, but let me first state that Gene, Spaz and Rogers are all public figures. I am not a lawyer but commenting on their job performance and challenging their public statements is pretty fair game. As for the "real people, with real lives" argument Jags, Skinner, Inglese, Jim Turner, and Jack Bicknell Jr are all real people, with real live and real families, whom Gene D lied about publicly and privately to serve his own agenda.

If I was unwelcome, unwanted or doing harm to BC, then the school would not come to visit me at my home in Atlanta every year, would not to take my money and would certainly not host me at events and ask me to be part of committees.

I have no desire to be Mike Farrell. If anything one of the reasons Scout was such a flame out for me was my unwillingness to chase recruits.

I would love to say who told me. It is not the same person who told me about Ryan Day if that makes any difference. Do these people have agendas? Of course. Am I being used by people who don't like the current situation? Of course.

The situation sucked from the beginning and is only getting worse. The two guys most responsible for this screwed up situation are the co-dependents running our football program.

The reason I started blogging is because I was disgusted how much the media (including EA) covered for TOB after the Syracuse loss. So my MO hasn't really changed -- when something stinks I will say it does. Blauds wrote as scathing an article as he could given his relationship with Spaz and his need to fly on BC's planes. If you think this situation is not fucked up, you are wearing blinders.


I am not wearing blinders, I know the program is not being well run, I am not a fan of Gene and believe Spaz has had his fair chance. The performance on the field shows it. I don't need to start making unsubstantiated personal attacks on them to make it look worse than it is, it's bad and should be fixed, they can't hide two national TV losses that would have been 20 point wins four years ago. Public figures or not, it ain't right to float shit out there that you are not willing to back up especially if you tout yourself some kind of insider quasi-journalist that is not bound journalistic rules or by "having" to ride on a plane with the team and staff.

You tweet and post that Rodgers was fired without comment. You then re-tweet Gene's response with no comment, no blog entry and no post that I see. Now when I ask for proof or some substantiation, you give me your resume and say you do this stuff for the good of BC while trying to say that I don't believe the situation is screwed up, which I have never said. Just look at the comments in this thread that resulted from your tweet/post. One sentence-"Rodgers was fired" and read some of the 200 conclusion jumping posts. Like I have said, I am no fan of the current AD or HC but I can't imagine they are bad people, they dedicate a lot of time and effort to BC, if they are not doing the job, they should be let go. I don't see any need to try to ruin their lives on the way out.

All I am asking for is some substantiation other than "because I love BC and because I said so" before you drop bombs and walk away.

Gene said publically that he has fired people before and if he fired someone he would admit it. You retweeted it without comment, What is your and/or your sources response to that?


I would just like to point out that I am a professional moderator and you made up lies and created in your minda a far fetched scenario of what happened at EI while I was working there and furthermore did not even know the difference between myself and the former publisher of EI while making up your lies. This is my job, you dick! If what you said was true concerning my employment at EI and how it ended Justin would fire me on the spot no questions asked. You are a special kind of stupid. Consider yourself warned. :boxer