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eepstein0 {l Wrote}:I would think we're an underdog in Raleigh.

I agree here. It will be this group's first true road game.

If we beat CSU, absolutely no shot. NCSU plays FSU and Clemson in successive weeks and then us. Not only will their national perception be brought back to reality but they will be banged up and not in 'ideal' shape to face our running game.... I think Vegas would take all of this into account when figuring a line. In this scenario, we should be favored by 3.

No chance at all. That means BC would be a TD favorite one neutral field.

BC is more than a TD favorite on the road against that team. If BC wins convincingly this week, as they should, after FSU and CLEM, BC will be close to a TD favorite over NCSU

No...

Yes. BC has always been a 5-7 to 7-5 team and NCSU has always been fucking terrible and nothing about the first 4 games changes that.

We're arguing a different point. I think BC should win, but in Raleigh there's no chance BC is favored. Heck we're only favored by 4 against what most on here think is a crappy CSU team.

This weekend is a tougher game.

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eepstein0 {l Wrote}:I would think we're an underdog in Raleigh.

I agree here. It will be this group's first true road game.

If we beat CSU, absolutely no shot. NCSU plays FSU and Clemson in successive weeks and then us. Not only will their national perception be brought back to reality but they will be banged up and not in 'ideal' shape to face our running game.... I think Vegas would take all of this into account when figuring a line. In this scenario, we should be favored by 3.

No chance at all. That means BC would be a TD favorite one neutral field.

BC is more than a TD favorite on the road against that team. If BC wins convincingly this week, as they should, after FSU and CLEM, BC will be close to a TD favorite over NCSU

No...

Yes. BC has always been a 5-7 to 7-5 team and NCSU has always been fucking terrible and nothing about the first 4 games changes that.

We're arguing a different point. I think BC should win, but in Raleigh there's no chance BC is favored. Heck we're only favored by 4 against what most on here think is a crappy CSU team.

This weekend is a tougher game.

Vegas won't agree. We were also a terrible road team last year

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eepstein0 {l Wrote}:I would think we're an underdog in Raleigh.

I agree here. It will be this group's first true road game.

If we beat CSU, absolutely no shot. NCSU plays FSU and Clemson in successive weeks and then us. Not only will their national perception be brought back to reality but they will be banged up and not in 'ideal' shape to face our running game.... I think Vegas would take all of this into account when figuring a line. In this scenario, we should be favored by 3.

No chance at all. That means BC would be a TD favorite one neutral field.

BC is more than a TD favorite on the road against that team. If BC wins convincingly this week, as they should, after FSU and CLEM, BC will be close to a TD favorite over NCSU

No...

Yes. BC has always been a 5-7 to 7-5 team and NCSU has always been fucking terrible and nothing about the first 4 games changes that.

We're arguing a different point. I think BC should win, but in Raleigh there's no chance BC is favored. Heck we're only favored by 4 against what most on here think is a crappy CSU team.

This weekend is a tougher game.

Vegas won't agree. We were also a terrible road team last year

Agreed. I will bet anyone on this board a box of Method Man's special brand of e-cigars that Raleigh State Community College will be favored.

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eepstein0 {l Wrote}:I would think we're an underdog in Raleigh.

I agree here. It will be this group's first true road game.

If we beat CSU, absolutely no shot. NCSU plays FSU and Clemson in successive weeks and then us. Not only will their national perception be brought back to reality but they will be banged up and not in 'ideal' shape to face our running game.... I think Vegas would take all of this into account when figuring a line. In this scenario, we should be favored by 3.

No chance at all. That means BC would be a TD favorite one neutral field.

BC is more than a TD favorite on the road against that team. If BC wins convincingly this week, as they should, after FSU and CLEM, BC will be close to a TD favorite over NCSU

No...

Yes. BC has always been a 5-7 to 7-5 team and NCSU has always been fucking terrible and nothing about the first 4 games changes that.

We're arguing a different point. I think BC should win, but in Raleigh there's no chance BC is favored. Heck we're only favored by 4 against what most on here think is a crappy CSU team.

This weekend is a tougher game.

Vegas won't agree. We were also a terrible road team last year

Agreed. I will bet anyone on this board a box of Method Man's special brand of e-cigars that Raleigh State Community College will be favored.

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jhiggi02 {l Wrote}:Funny thing is, my roommate is a well informed NCSU grad and he thinks they not only suck but that Doreen is an idiot. We have watched all 4 of their games against Georgia Southern, Presbyterian and the likes and have seen nothing to say otherwise. Where Daz tailors his system to his players, Doreen is a one trick pony without the tools. (Although, Bissett can throw the ball).



On a side note about their program, stealing Landry away from them speaks volumes about their recruiting capabilities. They have a gorgeous stadium, solid atmosphere (when compared to us) and no academic restrictions, not to mention the wonderful climate/tailgating down in NC. They should kill us in recruiting year in and year out but wont with Doreen at the helm.

I hope they beat FSU and Clemson, I just don't see it happening just as I don't see them being favored when they play us.

The problem is there is a lot of competition for the football factory type of kid, and NCSU will always come up short against the like of the SEC, the other football factories in the ACC, and the various factories across the country. Having a great stadium, atmosphere, no academic restrictions and good climate makes them simply similar to the majority of other programs out there. Its not a unique set of attributes. Of the countless schools that have these attributes, many will never win, and NCSU is one of them. They are absolutely not in competition with BC in recruiting. A kid like Landry is an example - if he wants to get away, experience something different, and prepare himself for life without the NFL, he chooses BC (or Vandy, ND, maybe GIT, etc). If he just wants to play football at a factory because he thinks he is an NFL lock, than he will choose FSU, Clemson, SEC-du-jour, etc. This is why NCSU mostly sucks.

The reason that Silberman & Patchan transferred here is that they thought that Daz and BC would give them their best NFL chance. For an O-Lineman he has a lot of players he can point as examples. For running backs like Hilliman and Outlow - what he did with Andre last year - gave them the confidence to choose BC over the Florida, Ohio State, etc

The real edge that Addazio gives us is that the players believe that he improves their NFL chances & they can get all of the other BC benefits as well. Coughlin is the only other BC coach who I can remember that also had this cachet

While I will take every opportunity to shit on TOB and Spaz, there are a shit ton of 2 stars from BC in the NFL right now that think your last sentence is ridiculous.

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jhiggi02 {l Wrote}:Funny thing is, my roommate is a well informed NCSU grad and he thinks they not only suck but that Doreen is an idiot. We have watched all 4 of their games against Georgia Southern, Presbyterian and the likes and have seen nothing to say otherwise. Where Daz tailors his system to his players, Doreen is a one trick pony without the tools. (Although, Bissett can throw the ball).



On a side note about their program, stealing Landry away from them speaks volumes about their recruiting capabilities. They have a gorgeous stadium, solid atmosphere (when compared to us) and no academic restrictions, not to mention the wonderful climate/tailgating down in NC. They should kill us in recruiting year in and year out but wont with Doreen at the helm.

I hope they beat FSU and Clemson, I just don't see it happening just as I don't see them being favored when they play us.

The problem is there is a lot of competition for the football factory type of kid, and NCSU will always come up short against the like of the SEC, the other football factories in the ACC, and the various factories across the country. Having a great stadium, atmosphere, no academic restrictions and good climate makes them simply similar to the majority of other programs out there. Its not a unique set of attributes. Of the countless schools that have these attributes, many will never win, and NCSU is one of them. They are absolutely not in competition with BC in recruiting. A kid like Landry is an example - if he wants to get away, experience something different, and prepare himself for life without the NFL, he chooses BC (or Vandy, ND, maybe GIT, etc). If he just wants to play football at a factory because he thinks he is an NFL lock, than he will choose FSU, Clemson, SEC-du-jour, etc. This is why NCSU mostly sucks.

The reason that Silberman & Patchan transferred here is that they thought that Daz and BC would give them their best NFL chance. For an O-Lineman he has a lot of players he can point as examples. For running backs like Hilliman and Outlow - what he did with Andre last year - gave them the confidence to choose BC over the Florida, Ohio State, etc

The real edge that Addazio gives us is that the players believe that he improves their NFL chances & they can get all of the other BC benefits as well. Coughlin is the only other BC coach who I can remember that also had this cachet

While I will take every opportunity to shit on TOB and Spaz, there are a shit ton of 2 stars from BC in the NFL right now that think your last sentence is ridiculous.

Didn't want to leave you hanging TW, happy to explain my thoughts. My point wasn't that TOB, Spaz, Jags didn't have a bunch of players in the NFL. They obviously did and as you point out many BC 2 stars ended up as great players.

My point was that some coaches have more cred/cachet with players than others. Addazio who won national recruiter of the year a few year's ago, has two championships at FLA, and a big time personality that attracts & gets high level recruits to brag about becoming "dudes", has that credibility. It is why he was able to get Hilliman. Landry and Outlow to choose BC over Florida, Ohio State etc. even coming off a 2-10 year. IMO recruits & post grad transfers reacted to the recent BC coaches as below:

Coughlin = able to position BC at its zenith
TOB = able to position BC as "we are what we are" and get moderate classes
Jags = little more cred than TOB in year 1 - unbelievably lazy year 2 = very limited cred if he stayed
Spaz - able to position BC as ""hey we're better than Holy Cross most years" [laughs]
Addazio = able to position BC at its zenith - able pull recruits others can't - able to get BC more ESPN attention than all of the above.

He (and maybe Coughlin) is the only coach of the above who has a small chance to potentially propel BC to a Stanford like turn around.

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jhiggi02 {l Wrote}:Funny thing is, my roommate is a well informed NCSU grad and he thinks they not only suck but that Doreen is an idiot. We have watched all 4 of their games against Georgia Southern, Presbyterian and the likes and have seen nothing to say otherwise. Where Daz tailors his system to his players, Doreen is a one trick pony without the tools. (Although, Bissett can throw the ball).



On a side note about their program, stealing Landry away from them speaks volumes about their recruiting capabilities. They have a gorgeous stadium, solid atmosphere (when compared to us) and no academic restrictions, not to mention the wonderful climate/tailgating down in NC. They should kill us in recruiting year in and year out but wont with Doreen at the helm.

I hope they beat FSU and Clemson, I just don't see it happening just as I don't see them being favored when they play us.

The problem is there is a lot of competition for the football factory type of kid, and NCSU will always come up short against the like of the SEC, the other football factories in the ACC, and the various factories across the country. Having a great stadium, atmosphere, no academic restrictions and good climate makes them simply similar to the majority of other programs out there. Its not a unique set of attributes. Of the countless schools that have these attributes, many will never win, and NCSU is one of them. They are absolutely not in competition with BC in recruiting. A kid like Landry is an example - if he wants to get away, experience something different, and prepare himself for life without the NFL, he chooses BC (or Vandy, ND, maybe GIT, etc). If he just wants to play football at a factory because he thinks he is an NFL lock, than he will choose FSU, Clemson, SEC-du-jour, etc. This is why NCSU mostly sucks.

The reason that Silberman & Patchan transferred here is that they thought that Daz and BC would give them their best NFL chance. For an O-Lineman he has a lot of players he can point as examples. For running backs like Hilliman and Outlow - what he did with Andre last year - gave them the confidence to choose BC over the Florida, Ohio State, etc

The real edge that Addazio gives us is that the players believe that he improves their NFL chances & they can get all of the other BC benefits as well. Coughlin is the only other BC coach who I can remember that also had this cachet

While I will take every opportunity to shit on TOB and Spaz, there are a shit ton of 2 stars from BC in the NFL right now that think your last sentence is ridiculous.

Didn't want to leave you hanging TW, happy to explain my thoughts. My point wasn't that TOB, Spaz, Jags didn't have a bunch of players in the NFL. They obviously did and as you point out many BC 2 stars ended up as great players.

My point was that some coaches have more cred/cachet with players than others. Addazio who won national recruiter of the year a few year's ago, has two championships at FLA, and a big time personality that attracts & gets high level recruits to brag about becoming "dudes", has that credibility. It is why he was able to get Hilliman. Landry and Outlow to choose BC over Florida, Ohio State etc. even coming off a 2-10 year. IMO recruits & post grad transfers reacted to the recent BC coaches as below:

Coughlin = able to position BC at its zenith
TOB = able to position BC as "we are what we are" and get moderate classes
Jags = little more cred than TOB in year 1 - unbelievably lazy year 2 = very limited cred if he stayed
Spaz - able to position BC as ""hey we're better than Holy Cross most years" [laughs]
Addazio = able to position BC at its zenith - able pull recruits others can't - able to get BC more ESPN attention than all of the above.

He (and maybe Coughlin) is the only coach of the above who has a small chance to potentially propel BC to a Stanford like turn around.

I'm not saying that Daz isn't a much better recruiter. I'm just saying its not because he turned Andre Williams into Ricky Williams. Spaz could just as easily point to Raji or Kuechly to stack the D-Line. Logan and Jags could note the difference between Matt Ryan circa 2006 and Matty Ice, Heisman candidate, circa 2007. They can also point to The Making of Anthony Costanzo, First Round Draft Pick.

I only objected to the "improves chances at NFL" comment. BC as an institution generally does that, regardless of coach. There's no question he is a better recruiter.

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jhiggi02 {l Wrote}:Funny thing is, my roommate is a well informed NCSU grad and he thinks they not only suck but that Doreen is an idiot. We have watched all 4 of their games against Georgia Southern, Presbyterian and the likes and have seen nothing to say otherwise. Where Daz tailors his system to his players, Doreen is a one trick pony without the tools. (Although, Bissett can throw the ball).



On a side note about their program, stealing Landry away from them speaks volumes about their recruiting capabilities. They have a gorgeous stadium, solid atmosphere (when compared to us) and no academic restrictions, not to mention the wonderful climate/tailgating down in NC. They should kill us in recruiting year in and year out but wont with Doreen at the helm.

I hope they beat FSU and Clemson, I just don't see it happening just as I don't see them being favored when they play us.

The problem is there is a lot of competition for the football factory type of kid, and NCSU will always come up short against the like of the SEC, the other football factories in the ACC, and the various factories across the country. Having a great stadium, atmosphere, no academic restrictions and good climate makes them simply similar to the majority of other programs out there. Its not a unique set of attributes. Of the countless schools that have these attributes, many will never win, and NCSU is one of them. They are absolutely not in competition with BC in recruiting. A kid like Landry is an example - if he wants to get away, experience something different, and prepare himself for life without the NFL, he chooses BC (or Vandy, ND, maybe GIT, etc). If he just wants to play football at a factory because he thinks he is an NFL lock, than he will choose FSU, Clemson, SEC-du-jour, etc. This is why NCSU mostly sucks.

The reason that Silberman & Patchan transferred here is that they thought that Daz and BC would give them their best NFL chance. For an O-Lineman he has a lot of players he can point as examples. For running backs like Hilliman and Outlow - what he did with Andre last year - gave them the confidence to choose BC over the Florida, Ohio State, etc

The real edge that Addazio gives us is that the players believe that he improves their NFL chances & they can get all of the other BC benefits as well. Coughlin is the only other BC coach who I can remember that also had this cachet

While I will take every opportunity to shit on TOB and Spaz, there are a shit ton of 2 stars from BC in the NFL right now that think your last sentence is ridiculous.

Didn't want to leave you hanging TW, happy to explain my thoughts. My point wasn't that TOB, Spaz, Jags didn't have a bunch of players in the NFL. They obviously did and as you point out many BC 2 stars ended up as great players.

My point was that some coaches have more cred/cachet with players than others. Addazio who won national recruiter of the year a few year's ago, has two championships at FLA, and a big time personality that attracts & gets high level recruits to brag about becoming "dudes", has that credibility. It is why he was able to get Hilliman. Landry and Outlow to choose BC over Florida, Ohio State etc. even coming off a 2-10 year. IMO recruits & post grad transfers reacted to the recent BC coaches as below:

Coughlin = able to position BC at its zenith
TOB = able to position BC as "we are what we are" and get moderate classes
Jags = little more cred than TOB in year 1 - unbelievably lazy year 2 = very limited cred if he stayed
Spaz - able to position BC as ""hey we're better than Holy Cross most years" [laughs]
Addazio = able to position BC at its zenith - able pull recruits others can't - able to get BC more ESPN attention than all of the above.

He (and maybe Coughlin) is the only coach of the above who has a small chance to potentially propel BC to a Stanford like turn around.

I'm not saying that Daz isn't a much better recruiter. I'm just saying its not because he turned Andre Williams into Ricky Williams. Spaz could just as easily point to Raji or Kuechly to stack the D-Line. Logan and Jags could note the difference between Matt Ryan circa 2006 and Matty Ice, Heisman candidate, circa 2007. They can also point to The Making of Anthony Costanzo, First Round Draft Pick.

I only objected to the "improves chances at NFL" comment. BC as an institution generally does that, regardless of coach. There's no question he is a better recruiter.

My point wasn't that Addazio improves chances at NFL, and by implication none of the other BC coaches did - my point was that players/recruits feel that he improves their chances - and BC benefits from that feeling by getting better players. If you agree with that statement we are once again on the same page

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jhiggi02 {l Wrote}:Funny thing is, my roommate is a well informed NCSU grad and he thinks they not only suck but that Doreen is an idiot. We have watched all 4 of their games against Georgia Southern, Presbyterian and the likes and have seen nothing to say otherwise. Where Daz tailors his system to his players, Doreen is a one trick pony without the tools. (Although, Bissett can throw the ball).



On a side note about their program, stealing Landry away from them speaks volumes about their recruiting capabilities. They have a gorgeous stadium, solid atmosphere (when compared to us) and no academic restrictions, not to mention the wonderful climate/tailgating down in NC. They should kill us in recruiting year in and year out but wont with Doreen at the helm.

I hope they beat FSU and Clemson, I just don't see it happening just as I don't see them being favored when they play us.

The problem is there is a lot of competition for the football factory type of kid, and NCSU will always come up short against the like of the SEC, the other football factories in the ACC, and the various factories across the country. Having a great stadium, atmosphere, no academic restrictions and good climate makes them simply similar to the majority of other programs out there. Its not a unique set of attributes. Of the countless schools that have these attributes, many will never win, and NCSU is one of them. They are absolutely not in competition with BC in recruiting. A kid like Landry is an example - if he wants to get away, experience something different, and prepare himself for life without the NFL, he chooses BC (or Vandy, ND, maybe GIT, etc). If he just wants to play football at a factory because he thinks he is an NFL lock, than he will choose FSU, Clemson, SEC-du-jour, etc. This is why NCSU mostly sucks.

The reason that Silberman & Patchan transferred here is that they thought that Daz and BC would give them their best NFL chance. For an O-Lineman he has a lot of players he can point as examples. For running backs like Hilliman and Outlow - what he did with Andre last year - gave them the confidence to choose BC over the Florida, Ohio State, etc

The real edge that Addazio gives us is that the players believe that he improves their NFL chances & they can get all of the other BC benefits as well. Coughlin is the only other BC coach who I can remember that also had this cachet

If ncsu had a better coach (including the recruiting aspect) aka, someone like Daz, would we still have a recruiting advantage? I don't think so. And that's one thing I was attempting to get accross. Ncsu could be good, they just hired a crap coach

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JesuitIvy {l Wrote}:I have a relative who is UNC fan and generally speaking has since I attended BC trotted out the usual knocks on BC that a) no kid wants to go to Boston because it's cold in the winter b) it's a pro town c) BC is too hard academically for a kid to want to go but for a few exceptions - why go there and have to work when you can go a NCSU or FSU and not have to do much at all. And if you wanted to, wouldn't you just go to Stanford or Duke anyway?

I don't buy any of it (well, Boston is cold, but so is half the country). but it lingers out there. I guess the idea being, NCSU has none of the things that supposedly hold BC back, therefore NCSU will inevitably be a world beater.

Those are the factors and, in my opinion, they do matter.

However, no one is saying ncsu should be a world beater.....

I am just saying that for your avg 3-4 star recruit coming from football states, those states mainly being in warmer climates and those student athletes mostly coming from different backgrounds than your avg bc student therefore having different values than your prototypical bc student, ncsu should be a more attractive option (easier sell). This is obviously dependent on both schools having coaches with similar recruiting abilities.

And obviously, for certain perspective athletes (ones caring about academics, aside from certain engineering and ag programs) bc would be the no brainer choice.

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Eaglekeeper {l Wrote}:North Carolina is not a warm state. You have to go to South Florida area to get a warm climate.

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Please read the text before making comments. Multiple times I said warmer. For reference, it's in my response RIGHT above your post.

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TobaccoRoadEagle {l Wrote}:i disagree. north carolina is certainly warmer than boston/newton.

i don't really know what vinny is trying to pull here

I hate you.

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TobaccoRoadEagle {l Wrote}:i disagree. north carolina is certainly warmer than boston/newton.

i don't really know what vinny is trying to pull here

I hate you.

Ah, now you're pretending to be one of TRE's brothers. Got it.

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TobaccoRoadEagle {l Wrote}:i disagree. north carolina is certainly warmer than boston/newton.

i don't really know what vinny is trying to pull here

I hate you.

Ah, now you're pretending to be one of TRE's brothers. Got it.

TRE is related to Vinny Salzano?

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TobaccoRoadEagle {l Wrote}:i disagree. north carolina is certainly warmer than boston/newton.

i don't really know what vinny is trying to pull here

I hate you.

Ah, now you're pretending to be one of TRE's brothers. Got it.

TRE is related to Vinny Salzano?

no, my brothers all drink

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TobaccoRoadEagle {l Wrote}:i disagree. north carolina is certainly warmer than boston/newton.

i don't really know what vinny is trying to pull here

I hate you.

Ah, now you're pretending to be one of TRE's brothers. Got it.

TRE is related to Vinny Salzano?

no, my brothers all drink

It dulls the pain of being your brother. At least that's what they told me last Easter.

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TobaccoRoadEagle {l Wrote}:i disagree. north carolina is certainly warmer than boston/newton.

i don't really know what vinny is trying to pull here

I hate you.

Ah, now you're pretending to be one of TRE's brothers. Got it.

TRE is related to Vinny Salzano?

no, my brothers all drink

It dulls the pain of being your brother. At least that's what they told me last Easter.

Do you send your brothers meatbombs too?

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TobaccoRoadEagle {l Wrote}:i disagree. north carolina is certainly warmer than boston/newton.

i don't really know what vinny is trying to pull here

I hate you.

Ah, now you're pretending to be one of TRE's brothers. Got it.

TRE is related to Vinny Salzano?

no, my brothers all drink

It dulls the pain of being your brother. At least that's what they told me last Easter.

Do you send your brothers meatbombs too?

His brothers can't open Christmas cards around their children.

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jhiggi02 {l Wrote}:

TobaccoRoadEagle {l Wrote}:i disagree. north carolina is certainly warmer than boston/newton.

i don't really know what vinny is trying to pull here

I hate you.

Ah, now you're pretending to be one of TRE's brothers. Got it.

TRE is related to Vinny Salzano?

no, my brothers all drink