twballgame9 {l Wrote}:NotoriousOrange {l Wrote}:eagle216 {l Wrote}:jhiggi02 {l Wrote}:Funny thing is, my roommate is a well informed NCSU grad and he thinks they not only suck but that Doreen is an idiot. We have watched all 4 of their games against Georgia Southern, Presbyterian and the likes and have seen nothing to say otherwise. Where Daz tailors his system to his players, Doreen is a one trick pony without the tools. (Although, Bissett can throw the ball).
On a side note about their program, stealing Landry away from them speaks volumes about their recruiting capabilities. They have a gorgeous stadium, solid atmosphere (when compared to us) and no academic restrictions, not to mention the wonderful climate/tailgating down in NC. They should kill us in recruiting year in and year out but wont with Doreen at the helm.
I hope they beat FSU and Clemson, I just don't see it happening just as I don't see them being favored when they play us.
The problem is there is a lot of competition for the football factory type of kid, and NCSU will always come up short against the like of the SEC, the other football factories in the ACC, and the various factories across the country. Having a great stadium, atmosphere, no academic restrictions and good climate makes them simply similar to the majority of other programs out there. Its not a unique set of attributes. Of the countless schools that have these attributes, many will never win, and NCSU is one of them. They are absolutely not in competition with BC in recruiting. A kid like Landry is an example - if he wants to get away, experience something different, and prepare himself for life without the NFL, he chooses BC (or Vandy, ND, maybe GIT, etc). If he just wants to play football at a factory because he thinks he is an NFL lock, than he will choose FSU, Clemson, SEC-du-jour, etc. This is why NCSU mostly sucks.
The reason that Silberman & Patchan transferred here is that they thought that Daz and BC would give them their best NFL chance. For an O-Lineman he has a lot of players he can point as examples. For running backs like Hilliman and Outlow - what he did with Andre last year - gave them the confidence to choose BC over the Florida, Ohio State, etc
The real edge that Addazio gives us is that the players believe that he improves their NFL chances & they can get all of the other BC benefits as well. Coughlin is the only other BC coach who I can remember that also had this cachet
While I will take every opportunity to shit on TOB and Spaz, there are a shit ton of 2 stars from BC in the NFL right now that think your last sentence is ridiculous.
Didn't want to leave you hanging TW, happy to explain my thoughts. My point wasn't that TOB, Spaz, Jags didn't have a bunch of players in the NFL. They obviously did and as you point out many BC 2 stars ended up as great players.
My point was that some coaches have more cred/cachet with players than others. Addazio who won national recruiter of the year a few year's ago, has two championships at FLA, and a big time personality that attracts & gets high level recruits to brag about becoming "dudes", has that credibility. It is why he was able to get Hilliman. Landry and Outlow to choose BC over Florida, Ohio State etc. even coming off a 2-10 year. IMO recruits & post grad transfers reacted to the recent BC coaches as below:
Coughlin = able to position BC at its zenith
TOB = able to position BC as "we are what we are" and get moderate classes
Jags = little more cred than TOB in year 1 - unbelievably lazy year 2 = very limited cred if he stayed
Spaz - able to position BC as ""hey we're better than Holy Cross most years" [laughs]
Addazio = able to position BC at its zenith - able pull recruits others can't - able to get BC more ESPN attention than all of the above.
He (and maybe Coughlin) is the only coach of the above who has a small chance to potentially propel BC to a Stanford like turn around.
