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I am against a mid season coaching change

PostPosted: Sat Oct 22, 2016 5:07 pm
by commavegarage
Despite the clown being a clown, there are still 2 extremely winnable games on the schedule and one conceivable win with decent coaching. I do not want a promoted coach who goes 3-2 in 5 meaningless games to get spaz'ed and promoted to head coach full time.

You all may say Al Washington or whoever may be a good coach. That may be true. But we're 0-12 in the ACC. I'll roll the dice with a complete house cleaning.

I post this because there are rumors he'll be gone this week on the twitisphere and one person I know who would know says this is now on the table

Re: I am against a mid season coaching change

PostPosted: Sat Oct 22, 2016 5:12 pm
by Reverend Mike
commavegarage {l Wrote}:Despite the clown being a clown, there are still 2 extremely winnable games on the schedule and one conceivable win with decent coaching. I do not want a promoted coach who goes 3-2 in 5 meaningless games to get spaz'ed and promoted to head coach full time.

You all may say Al Washington or whoever may be a good coach. That may be true. But we're 0-12 in the ACC. I'll roll the dice with a complete house cleaning.

I post this because there are rumors he'll be gone this week on the twitisphere and one person I know who would know says this is now on the table

I don't understand this logic. You want to keep the shitty coach longer because another coach might do better. I get the fact that you don't trust the administration to look beyond the end of their noses, but if bates is a goner, the new full time coach wouldn't be named until after a new AD came in anyway.

Re: I am against a mid season coaching change

PostPosted: Sat Oct 22, 2016 5:21 pm
by flakes
I want this guy....current UTSA head coach Frank Wilson. Young, former RBs coach at LSU, was named best recruiter in the country. Yes, we have the worst coach in the nation, but we also need players desperately.

http://www.goutsa.com/news/2016/1/15/210638991.aspx

Re: I am against a mid season coaching change

PostPosted: Sat Oct 22, 2016 5:22 pm
by Onyx Blackman

Re: I am against a mid season coaching change

PostPosted: Sat Oct 22, 2016 5:39 pm
by hansen
I am only for it if the change is going to get us 3 more wins this year.

Re: I am against a mid season coaching change

PostPosted: Sat Oct 22, 2016 6:00 pm
by Logitano
Onyx Blackman {l Wrote}:Blogboy's hinting at something.

https://twitter.com/bcatleagle/status/789921571972395008


ATL's hint is more likely Bates related. :ace

Re: I am against a mid season coaching change

PostPosted: Sat Oct 22, 2016 6:05 pm
by eepstein0
Just let Daz finish this season out and move on.

I will say anything they've let Al Washington coach has become good (see special teams this year) but he has no business as the HC yet. Bring him on as a coordinator maybe next year.

Re: I am against a mid season coaching change

PostPosted: Sat Oct 22, 2016 6:08 pm
by Reverend Mike
eepstein0 {l Wrote}:Just let Daz finish this season out and move on.

I will say anything they've let Al Washington coach has become good (see special teams this year) but he has no business as the HC yet. Bring him on as a coordinator maybe next year.

Let's assume for a minute that Al is in way over his head. What badness happens? We are going to get rocketshipped by NC State and Louisville IRRegardlessLY.

edit: i'm not advocating for Al to get the HC job (even temporarily), but I am advocating for a mid-season firing.

Re: I am against a mid season coaching change

PostPosted: Sat Oct 22, 2016 6:12 pm
by eepstein0
Reverend Mike {l Wrote}:
eepstein0 {l Wrote}:Just let Daz finish this season out and move on.

I will say anything they've let Al Washington coach has become good (see special teams this year) but he has no business as the HC yet. Bring him on as a coordinator maybe next year.

Let's assume for a minute that Al is in way over his head. What badness happens? We are going to get rocketshipped by NC State and Louisville IRRegardlessLY.

edit: i'm not advocating for Al to get the HC job (even temporarily), but I am advocating for a mid-season firing.


As much as I hate Daz and wish bad things upon him, he deserves the chance bomb out the rest of this season.

Re: I am against a mid season coaching change

PostPosted: Sat Oct 22, 2016 6:23 pm
by Reverend Mike
eepstein0 {l Wrote}:
Reverend Mike {l Wrote}:
eepstein0 {l Wrote}:Just let Daz finish this season out and move on.

I will say anything they've let Al Washington coach has become good (see special teams this year) but he has no business as the HC yet. Bring him on as a coordinator maybe next year.

Let's assume for a minute that Al is in way over his head. What badness happens? We are going to get rocketshipped by NC State and Louisville IRRegardlessLY.

edit: i'm not advocating for Al to get the HC job (even temporarily), but I am advocating for a mid-season firing.


As much as I hate Daz and wish bad things upon him, he deserves the chance bomb out the rest of this season.

That's fair and probably a very BC thing to do.

I think canning him now gives BC a leg up in terms of timing the coaching carousel.

Re: I am against a mid season coaching change

PostPosted: Sat Oct 22, 2016 6:25 pm
by Onyx Blackman
Logitano {l Wrote}:
Onyx Blackman {l Wrote}:Blogboy's hinting at something.

https://twitter.com/bcatleagle/status/789921571972395008


ATL's hint is more likely Bates related. :ace

That makes sense. I'll still hold out hope that they're building a catapult to fire Addazio into the sun.

Re: I am against a mid season coaching change

PostPosted: Sat Oct 22, 2016 6:27 pm
by Reverend Mike
Onyx Blackman {l Wrote}:
Logitano {l Wrote}:
Onyx Blackman {l Wrote}:Blogboy's hinting at something.

https://twitter.com/bcatleagle/status/789921571972395008


ATL's hint is more likely Bates related. :ace

That makes sense. I'll still hold out hope that they're building a catapult to fire Addazio into the sun.

Still waiting on the permits. Do you have any idea how much it costs to build a coach catapult in the city of boston?

Re: I am against a mid season coaching change

PostPosted: Sat Oct 22, 2016 6:30 pm
by eepstein0
Onyx Blackman {l Wrote}:
Logitano {l Wrote}:
Onyx Blackman {l Wrote}:Blogboy's hinting at something.

https://twitter.com/bcatleagle/status/789921571972395008


ATL's hint is more likely Bates related. :ace

That makes sense. I'll still hold out hope that they're building a catapult to fire Addazio into the sun.


Bates wasn't at the game.

Re: I am against a mid season coaching change

PostPosted: Sat Oct 22, 2016 6:30 pm
by Corporal Funishment
The problem with Daz being allowed to finish out the season is, maybe he closes it out with wins against Uconn and Wake, and all the squishy invertebrates around and involved in our program think "well he showed improvement and there were some close losses, maybe we give him one more year"

Re: I am against a mid season coaching change

PostPosted: Sat Oct 22, 2016 6:34 pm
by eaglecaddy
Corporal Funishment {l Wrote}:The problem with Daz being allowed to finish out the season is, maybe he closes it out with wins against Uconn and Wake, and all the squishy invertebrates around and involved in our program think "well he showed improvement and there were some close losses, maybe we give him one more year"


If there is in fact an AD change coming now as everyone keeps hinting about then Dazz is a goner. Winning 2 of the next 5 will not change that. Winning 4 of 5 might and that would actually be the right call to give him 1 more year.

Re: I am against a mid season coaching change

PostPosted: Sat Oct 22, 2016 6:45 pm
by eepstein0
Corporal Funishment {l Wrote}:The problem with Daz being allowed to finish out the season is, maybe he closes it out with wins against Uconn and Wake, and all the squishy invertebrates around and involved in our program think "well he showed improvement and there were some close losses, maybe we give him one more year"


You don't need to worry about Wake.

UConn and BC could be the 2 worst teams ever so who knows

Re: I am against a mid season coaching change

PostPosted: Sat Oct 22, 2016 6:55 pm
by hansen
eepstein0 {l Wrote}:
Onyx Blackman {l Wrote}:
Logitano {l Wrote}:
Onyx Blackman {l Wrote}:Blogboy's hinting at something.

https://twitter.com/bcatleagle/status/789921571972395008


ATL's hint is more likely Bates related. :ace

That makes sense. I'll still hold out hope that they're building a catapult to fire Addazio into the sun.


Bates wasn't at the game.


He was at the hockey game the night before.

Re: I am against a mid season coaching change

PostPosted: Sat Oct 22, 2016 7:07 pm
by PhillyandBCEagles
We should've axed Addazio after the Clemson game. Make Pasqualoni the interim on the understanding that he will not be a candidate for the full-time job and give him 2 weeks to help prepare for his old school. Do that and I think we get the W today.

The issue with promoting Al to interim HC is that if he manages to win a few games there would be a ton of pressure to give him the full-time job after the season. I don't think you'd have that pressure with PP.

Re: I am against a mid season coaching change

PostPosted: Sat Oct 22, 2016 7:08 pm
by BCSUPERFAN22
Mike Dimauro who is a BC grad and writes for some paper in CT put something on Twitter re: Coughlin as AD. Was asked about it multiple times by Twitter people and kept saying yes.

I was also told today by someone who has contact with some donors, that Leahy will never fire someone midseason

Re: I am against a mid season coaching change

PostPosted: Sat Oct 22, 2016 8:06 pm
by eepstein0
BCSUPERFAN22 {l Wrote}:Mike Dimauro who is a BC grad and writes for some paper in CT put something on Twitter re: Coughlin as AD. Was asked about it multiple times by Twitter people and kept saying yes.

I was also told today by someone who has contact with some donors, that Leahy will never fire someone midseason


The mid-season deal appeases the fans but is otherwise pretty useless.

Re: I am against a mid season coaching change

PostPosted: Sat Oct 22, 2016 10:01 pm
by BCMurt09
Changing coaches now would only make sense if the new guy could win 3 of the next 5. Since that won't happen, let Daz finish out the season, limp to 3/9 or 4-8 and then we can have a caching search without feeling an obligation to make the interim permanent.

Re: I am against a mid season coaching change

PostPosted: Sat Oct 22, 2016 10:40 pm
by HJS
Reverend Mike {l Wrote}:I get the fact that you don't trust the administration to look beyond the end of their noses, but if bates is a goner, the new full time coach wouldn't be named until after a new AD came in anyway.

If you want Daz fired, then you don't want the next AD to make the hire. If Daz is fired, it will be Leahy, Sullivan and maybe a Trustee or two. Next AD ain't taking the reigns until the:Summer.

Re: I am against a mid season coaching change

PostPosted: Sat Oct 22, 2016 10:45 pm
by Reverend Mike
HJS {l Wrote}:
Reverend Mike {l Wrote}:I get the fact that you don't trust the administration to look beyond the end of their noses, but if bates is a goner, the new full time coach wouldn't be named until after a new AD came in anyway.

If you want Daz fired, then you don't want the next AD to make the hire. If Daz is fired, it will be Leahy, Sullivan and maybe a Trustee or two. Next AD ain't taking the reigns until the:Summer.

Wait wait wait wait wait, I thought TC was starting on Monday.

So you want daz to stay on for another year so that the next mystery AD can make the hire in December 2017? I don't get it.

Re: I am against a mid season coaching change

PostPosted: Sat Oct 22, 2016 11:17 pm
by ATLeagle
Reverend Mike {l Wrote}:
commavegarage {l Wrote}:Despite the clown being a clown, there are still 2 extremely winnable games on the schedule and one conceivable win with decent coaching. I do not want a promoted coach who goes 3-2 in 5 meaningless games to get spaz'ed and promoted to head coach full time.

You all may say Al Washington or whoever may be a good coach. That may be true. But we're 0-12 in the ACC. I'll roll the dice with a complete house cleaning.

I post this because there are rumors he'll be gone this week on the twitisphere and one person I know who would know says this is now on the table

I don't understand this logic. You want to keep the shitty coach longer because another coach might do better. I get the fact that you don't trust the administration to look beyond the end of their noses, but if bates is a goner, the new full time coach wouldn't be named until after a new AD came in anyway.


New coach could come before new AD. Kind of like lame duck Gladchuck being around for TOB and Skinner.

I like Al but also fear BC overreacting to him if he has even the slightest success as an interim.

Re: I am against a mid season coaching change

PostPosted: Sun Oct 23, 2016 10:50 am
by Eaglekeeper
All of these posts assume that BC could actually put together a fucking plan! Forget about winning an ACC game this year and start realizing that they are not going to win an ACC game next year either.

Re: I am against a mid season coaching change

PostPosted: Sun Oct 23, 2016 11:28 am
by bcshater
Against a mid-season coaching change. Only game I see us winning is the season home finale against UConn, maybe Daz last appearance at Alumni especially if Bates moves on of course.

Re: I am against a mid season coaching change

PostPosted: Sun Oct 23, 2016 9:54 pm
by Brooklyneagle
eepstein0 {l Wrote}:
Reverend Mike {l Wrote}:
eepstein0 {l Wrote}:Just let Daz finish this season out and move on.

I will say anything they've let Al Washington coach has become good (see special teams this year) but he has no business as the HC yet. Bring him on as a coordinator maybe next year.

Let's assume for a minute that Al is in way over his head. What badness happens? We are going to get rocketshipped by NC State and Louisville IRRegardlessLY.

edit: i'm not advocating for Al to get the HC job (even temporarily), but I am advocating for a mid-season firing.


As much as I hate Daz and wish bad things upon him, he deserves the chance bomb out the rest of this season.


What?!? The only issue is whether BC would be better off or not by firing him tomorrow morning. A better shot at a better new HC? Better coaching for the rest of the year? Even worse recruiting? Taking a visible stand against incompetence and failure and embarrassment? I of course don't know and "it depends".

But Daz' desserts have nothing to do with it -- and his BS has brought him wealth so far beyond them. It's all about BC's future -- not just athletically but more for what it means for the pursuit of excellence when we come together as a community to support our representatives on the field, court, rink... Whether Leahy knows it or not, a good part of the University's reputation is on the line and on the air when the Eagles take the field.

Re: I am against a mid season coaching change

PostPosted: Mon Oct 24, 2016 4:06 am
by eepstein0
Brooklyneagle {l Wrote}:
eepstein0 {l Wrote}:
Reverend Mike {l Wrote}:
eepstein0 {l Wrote}:Just let Daz finish this season out and move on.

I will say anything they've let Al Washington coach has become good (see special teams this year) but he has no business as the HC yet. Bring him on as a coordinator maybe next year.

Let's assume for a minute that Al is in way over his head. What badness happens? We are going to get rocketshipped by NC State and Louisville IRRegardlessLY.

edit: i'm not advocating for Al to get the HC job (even temporarily), but I am advocating for a mid-season firing.


As much as I hate Daz and wish bad things upon him, he deserves the chance bomb out the rest of this season.


What?!? The only issue is whether BC would be better off or not by firing him tomorrow morning. A better shot at a better new HC? Better coaching for the rest of the year? Even worse recruiting? Taking a visible stand against incompetence and failure and embarrassment? I of course don't know and "it depends".

But Daz' desserts have nothing to do with it -- and his BS has brought him wealth so far beyond them. It's all about BC's future -- not just athletically but more for what it means for the pursuit of excellence when we come together as a community to support our representatives on the field, court, rink... Whether Leahy knows it or not, a good part of the University's reputation is on the line and on the air when the Eagles take the field.


Firing him now, aside from appeasing mouth-breather fans, accomplishes nothing.

Just don't watch the last however many games and come back here Dec. 1.

Re: I am against a mid season coaching change

PostPosted: Mon Oct 24, 2016 9:04 am
by Brooklyneagle
eepstein0 {l Wrote}:
Brooklyneagle {l Wrote}:
eepstein0 {l Wrote}:
Reverend Mike {l Wrote}:
eepstein0 {l Wrote}:Just let Daz finish this season out and move on.

I will say anything they've let Al Washington coach has become good (see special teams this year) but he has no business as the HC yet. Bring him on as a coordinator maybe next year.

Let's assume for a minute that Al is in way over his head. What badness happens? We are going to get rocketshipped by NC State and Louisville IRRegardlessLY.

edit: i'm not advocating for Al to get the HC job (even temporarily), but I am advocating for a mid-season firing.


As much as I hate Daz and wish bad things upon him, he deserves the chance bomb out the rest of this season.


What?!? The only issue is whether BC would be better off or not by firing him tomorrow morning. A better shot at a better new HC? Better coaching for the rest of the year? Even worse recruiting? Taking a visible stand against incompetence and failure and embarrassment? I of course don't know and "it depends".

But Daz' desserts have nothing to do with it -- and his BS has brought him wealth so far beyond them. It's all about BC's future -- not just athletically but more for what it means for the pursuit of excellence when we come together as a community to support our representatives on the field, court, rink... Whether Leahy knows it or not, a good part of the University's reputation is on the line and on the air when the Eagles take the field.


Firing him now, aside from appeasing mouth-breather fans, accomplishes nothing.

Just don't watch the last however many games and come back here Dec. 1.


Not disagreeing with this, just agnostic. And obviously it would depend. My only point was that it has nothing to do with what Sarge might "deserve". It's all about BC's future.

Re: I am against a mid season coaching change

PostPosted: Mon Oct 24, 2016 10:27 am
by Bryn Mawr Eagle
Reverend Mike {l Wrote}:
Onyx Blackman {l Wrote}:
Logitano {l Wrote}:
Onyx Blackman {l Wrote}:Blogboy's hinting at something.

https://twitter.com/bcatleagle/status/789921571972395008


ATL's hint is more likely Bates related. :ace

That makes sense. I'll still hold out hope that they're building a catapult to fire Addazio into the sun.

Still waiting on the permits. Do you have any idea how much it costs to build a coach catapult in the city of boston?


Between the union labor rates, community and environmental regulations, and the permitting, it might be easier to get a football practice facility built.

Or not.