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Re: What if SweetDee never offered Free Jurks

Postby twballgame9 on Sat Sep 10, 2022 11:43 pm

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like nospace’s pickle jar, I assume

Hansen’s jizz filled rectum aside, at least glass Phil is an asshole on top of sucking at quarterbackmanship


I am only going to quote the following from former VT star player Eddie Royal and leave it to the rest of you to debate the prowess of Jurkovec: “I was actually really nervous watching the game because BC had a ton of open guys down the field the whole game. Luckily Jurkovec never looked up and saw them. I think he was too busy looking down at the people coming at him.”


This. And Eddie Royal still is terrible.
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Re: What if SweetDee never offered Free Jurks

Postby HJS on Sun Sep 11, 2022 7:18 am

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HJS {l Wrote}:Both Jurk and McNulty have had careers before BC. All were failures. Jurk was spotty in his first season at BC and has t had a good game since GT 2 years ago. He has regressed to the point where bad games greatly outnumber good. He isn’t getting better and has no future either here or in the pros. Those are all also facts.


Not facts. McNulty's OC experience was 10 years ago and he's had a pretty solid resume since. Jurk was a "failure" at ND because he didn't start over Book? And no, Jurk has had more good games than bad by any objective metric. He's not Matt Ryan by any stretch, but he's light years beyond anything we ever saw from AB. I don't even know what your agenda is, but like most things you post you're wrong.

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As for Jurk, he didn’t only lose out to Book, they told him his future was at TE and attempted to move him there (which prompted the transfer). Jurk was a headcase with athleticism and flashes of talent when he arrived. He is still a head case but now with no mobility and the accuracy of a TE… all while throwing Addazio-like tantrums after each play. Never mention MattyIce in the same sentence as this embarrassment. Shit… never even compare him to Towles. This guy is Shinskie and QP.
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Re: What if SweetDee never offered Free Jurks

Postby HJS on Sat Sep 24, 2022 11:00 pm

Fuck all you wannabe Domers who think (a) Shinkovec is a QB, (b) is better at FB than Anthony Brown and (c) gives us a better chance to win over Morehead. I bet each and everyone of you were Quinton Porter fans because his brother posted on EA. You deserve this rotting corpse of a program.
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Re: What if SweetDee never offered Free Jurks

Postby Dick Rosenthal on Sat Sep 24, 2022 11:27 pm

HJS {l Wrote}:Fuck all you wannabe Domers who think (a) Shinkovec is a QB, (b) is better at FB than Anthony Brown and (c) gives us a better chance to win over Morehead. I bet each and everyone of you were Quinton Porter fans because his brother posted on EA. You deserve this rotting corpse of a program.


Go check out Rock’s House on ND Nation tonight. Some guy posted about Jurk sucking and almost immediately, there two posts stating Jurk would have started at ND last year and this year and that it is all the fault of his OL. As to the rest of your nonsense, who fucking cares. It’s over. AB was terrible and just as fragile as Jurk. As for Moorehead, who gives a shit. Start him if you must. He’ll just end up getting murdered so what’s the point? You could put Tom Brady behind this OL and it wouldn’t change a thing. Jurk sucks, is a poor leader and ran his mouth when he shouldn’t have. But our program isn’t a cosmic joke because of Jurk. It’s the OL. A comically bad collection of fat weaklings who’d be the third offensive line in the Ivy League. The fact that our OL sucks is almost impossible to comprehend given OL is the only thing historically we have ever been consistently good at.
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Re: What if SweetDee never offered Free Jurks

Postby innocentbystander on Sun Sep 25, 2022 1:27 am

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HJS {l Wrote}:Fuck all you wannabe Domers who think (a) Shinkovec is a QB, (b) is better at FB than Anthony Brown and (c) gives us a better chance to win over Morehead. I bet each and everyone of you were Quinton Porter fans because his brother posted on EA. You deserve this rotting corpse of a program.


Go check out Rock’s House on ND Nation tonight. Some guy posted about Jurk sucking and almost immediately, there two posts stating Jurk would have started at ND last year and this year and that it is all the fault of his OL. As to the rest of your nonsense, who fucking cares. It’s over. AB was terrible and just as fragile as Jurk. As for Moorehead, who gives a shit. Start him if you must. He’ll just end up getting murdered so what’s the point? You could put Tom Brady behind this OL and it wouldn’t change a thing. Jurk sucks, is a poor leader and ran his mouth when he shouldn’t have. But our program isn’t a cosmic joke because of Jurk. It’s the OL. A comically bad collection of fat weaklings who’d be the third offensive line in the Ivy League. The fact that our OL sucks is almost impossible to comprehend given OL is the only thing historically we have ever been consistently good at.


yup

If the offensive line at BC doesn't work, then the rest doesn't matter. Best team BC ever had ever (2007) the offensive line wasn't perfect. But it was functional and could at least be "average" at pass protection.

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Re: What if SweetDee never offered Free Jurks

Postby HJS on Sat Oct 29, 2022 12:17 pm

Bumping this thread for those who stubbornly believed fluid hips meant Shinkovec was better than Anthony Brown.
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Re: What if SweetDee never offered Free Jurks

Postby BCdee on Sun Oct 30, 2022 7:16 am

Oh, hi guys! :elephant :cheer
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Re: What if SweetDee never offered Free Jurks

Postby HJS on Mon Dec 12, 2022 2:51 pm

Congrats to Anthony Brown for doing what Jurk never will... win a game in the NFL.
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Re: What if SweetDee never offered Free Jurks

Postby TobaccoRoadEagle on Mon Dec 12, 2022 3:35 pm

HJS {l Wrote}:Congrats to Anthony Brown for doing what Jurk never will... win a game in the NFL.

i was going to guess he was the first st. john vianney kid to play in the nfl but ishmael hyman saw a couple snaps over the last 2 or 3 years (according to nospacibedia)
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Re: What if SweetDee never offered Free Jurks

Postby angrychicken on Mon Dec 12, 2022 5:09 pm

TobaccoRoadEagle {l Wrote}:
HJS {l Wrote}:Congrats to Anthony Brown for doing what Jurk never will... win a game in the NFL.

i was going to guess he was the first st. john vianney kid to play in the nfl but ishmael hyman saw a couple snaps over the last 2 or 3 years (according to nospacibedia)

I was unaware that Ishmael Hyman was an NFL player before today.
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Re: What if SweetDee never offered Free Jurks

Postby TobaccoRoadEagle on Tue Dec 13, 2022 7:19 am

angrychicken {l Wrote}:
TobaccoRoadEagle {l Wrote}:
HJS {l Wrote}:Congrats to Anthony Brown for doing what Jurk never will... win a game in the NFL.

i was going to guess he was the first st. john vianney kid to play in the nfl but ishmael hyman saw a couple snaps over the last 2 or 3 years (according to nospacibedia)

I was unaware that Ishmael Hyman was an NFL player before today.

I was as well, but that knowledge is now broken
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Re: What if SweetDee never offered Free Jurks

Postby DomingoOrtiz on Wed Oct 04, 2023 5:41 pm

Benched. Heard from multiple sources that he was an idiot. Never heard that he was a bad guy but also never heard that he was a good guy.
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Re: What if SweetDee never offered Free Jurks

Postby Dick Rosenthal on Wed Oct 04, 2023 10:58 pm

Jurkovec is basically Dayne Crist the sequel. Crist, as some will remember, was an insanely hyped QB out of LA who arrived at Notre Dame with the promise of being the next big thing—tall, mobile, rocket arm. Then Charlie Weiss was canned and Crist was tossed onto the field by Brian Kelly. Objectively, he played pretty well at the start. He had a couple of clunkers, but also some extremely impressive performances. And then he got straight up murdered by a terrible offensive line. Came back from in jury, was up and down and then hurt again. Got his degree and took of for Kansas where it was thought that Weis might resurrect his prospects, but he was so broken physically and mentally that Bill Walsh couldn’t have saved him and he ended up getting benched on a terrible Kansas team. In many ways that is what happened to Jurk at BC. His first year he was objectively good and an upgrade over AB, but the beating he took was brutal. The broken hand the next year was rough and he never should have tried to come back and last year was absolutely brutal. There was a thought in Pittsburg that Cignetti could fix him, but having watched the Backyard Brawl it was clear he was completely broken. It also didn’t help that Pittsburgh’s Offense is horrific across the board.

The difference between Crist and Jurkovec is that Crist was the quintessential good soldier—kept his mouth shut, never bad mouthed his former school, never pointed the finger at anyone else, and didn’t act like a petulant kid on the field. As a result, ND took care of him in a big way after he finished playing at Kansas. Dude is making more money than he would have ever made as an NFL QB running money for some billionaire ND grads and others in LA. Jury’s biggest problem is he alienated ND and BC, and the fanbase it Pittsburgh hates him as well. Gotta play nice in the sandbox if you don’t play well on the field. Jurk is in his way to a high school coaching career in metro Pittsburgh.
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Re: What if SweetDee never offered Free Jurks

Postby HJS on Thu Oct 05, 2023 7:50 am

Jurk and Crist are similar… if Jurk came to BC outta high school. But, there was a whole career in South Bend intervening. Brian Kelly saw immediately that Jurk wasn’t a QB and (after giving him enough rope to conclusively hang himself) tried to salvage his FB career with a suggested move to TE. Stupid is as stupid does and the magnanimous gesture instead became grounds in Jurk’s mind to go scorched earth on everything ever associated with the Fighting French. As a shock to no one, Brian Kelly has proven to be right and Jeff Hafley wrong.
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Re: What if SweetDee never offered Free Jurks

Postby Dick Rosenthal on Thu Oct 05, 2023 11:06 am

HJS {l Wrote}:Jurk and Crist are similar… if Jurk came to BC outta high school. But, there was a whole career in South Bend intervening. Brian Kelly saw immediately that Jurk wasn’t a QB and (after giving him enough rope to conclusively hang himself) tried to salvage his FB career with a suggested move to TE. Stupid is as stupid does and the magnanimous gesture instead became grounds in Jurk’s mind to go scorched earth on everything ever associated with the Fighting French. As a shock to no one, Brian Kelly has proven to be right and Jeff Hafley wrong.


I would think that given the results to date at LSU, that everyone understands that Brian Kelly is a joke who wrecks QBs like it's his job. This isn't to excuse Jurk, but my guess is that Kelly did to Jurk what he did to every QB under his tutelage. Indeed, it is remarkable that Jurk was as effective as he was when he first arrived at BC. Certainly better than Everett Golson was at FSU, Malik Zaire was at Florida or Brandon Wimbush at UCF--hell, even better than Andrew Hendrix at Miami of Ohio.You can probably toss Tyler Buchner into that mix because Tommy Rees is basically Brian Kelly. The only reason he hasn't wrecked Jayden Daniels yet, and the operative phrase is yet, is because Daniels had the good fortune to get three years of college QB coaching before Kelly got to him.

You are free to continue with your anti-Jurk agenda. I support it. But don't you dare get in the way of my anti-Kelly agenda if you know what is good for you.

And I'll tie all of this together by stating that my anti-Kelly agenda is a direct result of the fact that I can see the following scenario coming a mile away. Hafley limps to a 6-6 record against this shittastic schedule and is left dangling as BC's head coach for one more year. Kelly finishes 7-5 this year raising the temperature on his coaching seat to boiling heading into next year. Hafley goes 3-9 next year as Leahy decides to hang it up leading to the first lay President at BC. Kelly, once again Kellys at LSU and is shitcanned after another 7-5/8-4 record, with LSU paying him $70 million to go away. Having pocketed the money, the St John's-St. A's local boy comes home to Chestnut Hill with a nice spiel about how "LSU wasn't a fit" for the type of academically-oriented player Kelly likes to recruit. And the lay President is lauded for "making a splash" and "trying to return BC football to relevancy", etc., etc.
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Re: What if SweetDee never offered Free Jurks

Postby HJS on Thu Oct 05, 2023 2:57 pm

First, there is zero chance Hafley is winning 6 games no matter who we play.
Second, there is zero chance that Hafley is fired this year regardless of the record.
Third, Brian Kelly looks like effing Frank Leahy when compared to what that program has become after he left.
Fourth, while there is zero chance Kelly would come to BC, there is even less chance that BC would be able to hire someone anywhere near as competent (even if you feel BK is not remotely competent).
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Re: What if SweetDee never offered Free Jurks

Postby twballgame9 on Thu Oct 05, 2023 7:12 pm

Brian Kelly is a clown and a terrible football coach.
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Re: What if SweetDee never offered Free Jurks

Postby Dick Rosenthal on Thu Oct 05, 2023 10:09 pm

twballgame9 {l Wrote}:Brian Kelly is a clown and a terrible football coach.


This is true. He is also a terrible and lazy recruiter. And the notion that ND isn’t better off without him shows a distinct lack of football acumen. The Freeman 10 man defense was something that routinely happened to Kelly, the difference being that Kelly would never have been in a position to be leading tOSU late in the 4th quarter.
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Re: What if SweetDee never offered Free Jurks

Postby twballgame9 on Thu Oct 05, 2023 11:02 pm

Dick Rosenthal {l Wrote}:
twballgame9 {l Wrote}:Brian Kelly is a clown and a terrible football coach.


This is true. He is also a terrible and lazy recruiter. And the notion that ND isn’t better off without him shows a distinct lack of football acumen. The Freeman 10 man defense was something that routinely happened to Kelly, the difference being that Kelly would never have been in a position to be leading tOSU late in the 4th quarter.


What Kelly did to Boute is sufficient for me on this point, guy went from J'Marr Chase to 6th round with Kelly
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Re: What if SweetDee never offered Free Jurks

Postby HJS on Fri Oct 06, 2023 1:47 pm

twballgame9 {l Wrote}:What Kelly did to Boute is sufficient for me on this point, guy went from J'Marr Chase to 6th round with Kelly

And had nothing at all to do with devastating ankle injury that required two separate surgeries.
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Re: What if SweetDee never offered Free Jurks

Postby twballgame9 on Fri Oct 06, 2023 7:59 pm

HJS {l Wrote}:
twballgame9 {l Wrote}:What Kelly did to Boute is sufficient for me on this point, guy went from J'Marr Chase to 6th round with Kelly

And had nothing at all to do with devastating ankle injury that required two separate surgeries.


The Kelly/Boutte melodrama is well documented, as is the impact on his draft status. There is no doubt that he ran a slow 40 and had a tough combine because he wasn't fully recovered despite 18 months and a full season playing in the SEC. He still probably isn't fully up to speed. That doesn't change the fact that Kelly fucked with kid, bragging he fired a "shot across his bow" to the media when the kid was not practicing in the spring because he was recovering from surgery, and in relation to the last bowl game where he made him "unavailable" because he was considering the draft. By the draft, he was a "problem player." Kelly is a terrible coach and person.
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