twballgame9 wrote:2001Eagle wrote:twballgame9 wrote:2001Eagle wrote:HJS wrote:twballgame9 wrote:eepstein0 wrote:Im really confused. If the kid could play in Oregon's system, how the heck does he not fit at BC. I thought Boyle was mobile anyway
Oregon's system isn't Oregon's system anymore.
The spread takes many different forms. You have spreads run by Holgorsen, Chip Kelly, Sumlin, Kingsbury, Mike Gundy, Chad Morris and Steve Logan, are essentially the evolution of the run-and-shoot. And then, you have the spreads run by Daziani, Paul Johnson and Ken Niumatalolo, which are essentially the evolution of the wishbone.
i hate to interrupt your flow, but Rich Rod is generally credited with creating the zone read out of the shotgun, which is what Kely ran at Oregon. Not sure how accurate it is to say that the read option evolved from the run and shoot. It's more complicated than that, given especially that Kelly sometimes used wishbone formations (Barner and James in the backfield) while running the zone read.
Interesting side note, that Ryan Day is being quoted at length in the Philly papers regarding Kelly: http://philadelphia.cbslocal.com/2013/01/25/chip-kellys-first-quarterback-at-new-hampshire-talks-the-eagles-and-kellys-offense/
The bold part isn't remotely true. Logan was running zone read out of the shotgun with Jeff Blake and David Garrard long ago, and it found its way to a young Urban Meyer at Bowling Green. They are similar offenses now, but they were born from different sources - RichRods, the Veer, Logan's, the run and shoot. Hence the reason why RichRod was run heavy and Logan pass heavy.
Think you're wrong Teddy. Rich Rod was running it at Glennville State circa 1990. Not saying he was the only one who had the idea, but he's generally credited for the zone read out of the spread shotgun. Hard to support your claim that what I said "isn't remotely true."
Here too:http://nfl.si.com/2012/08/28/where-will-nfl-offenses-go-from-here/Such was the case with the zone-read play that Rodriguez is widely credited with creating and which Tim Tebow so famously brought to the NFL stage last season. That design came about almost entirely by accident during Rich Rodriguez’s time as head coach at tiny Glenville (W.V.) State. As Rodriguez told SI’s Tim Layden in Blood, Sweat and Chalk, his quarterback at the time, Jed Drenning, bobbled a handoff attempt out of the shotgun and, instead, kept the ball and bolted to where a defensive end had vacated his position.
Logan was running it at a real college in 1991. They developed at the same time, and even IBpedia for RichRod notes the passing versions developed first. Logans was one of them.
It is interesting to look at what Logan did at ECU. When he was the OC under Lewis and had Blake he threw a whole lot, then in his first year as HC 1992 he called for a temple-esque 183 passes, which resulted in 924 yds (which by board definition means a service academy offense and is not a reflection on who the qb is), then he went nuts for the rest of the 90s until he got to Garrard with 4 or 5 straight years at or above 400 attempts, but with garrard the pass attempts were much closer to 300 than 400.