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Re: 2013 Recruiting Thread

Postby pick6pedro on Tue Jan 29, 2013 3:37 pm

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Re: 2013 Recruiting Thread

Postby bceagles24 on Tue Jan 29, 2013 7:08 pm

Robert Davis got a BC offer tonight. Got to assume that means Webb isn't coming here but I've liked Davis a bit better. More shift and speed with Davis.
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Re: 2013 Recruiting Thread

Postby bceagles24 on Tue Jan 29, 2013 8:38 pm

This kid is really good. Speed,vision,isn't afraid of contact,and is really tough to take down.

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Re: 2013 Recruiting Thread

Postby Iggle on Wed Jan 30, 2013 12:10 am

has there been any word on Matt Patchan?
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Re: 2013 Recruiting Thread

Postby Shaddix on Wed Jan 30, 2013 12:10 am

Iggle wrote:has there been any word on Matt Patchan?


He was still deciding as of last month
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Re: 2013 Recruiting Thread

Postby bigeastconf on Wed Jan 30, 2013 12:15 am

Boyle is visiting Uconn on wednesday.
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Re: 2013 Recruiting Thread

Postby GT BoSox on Wed Jan 30, 2013 8:52 am

bceagles24 wrote:Robert Davis got a BC offer tonight. Got to assume that means Webb isn't coming here but I've liked Davis a bit better. More shift and speed with Davis.


He'll decide on signing day, correct?
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Re: 2013 Recruiting Thread

Postby BCSUPERFAN22 on Wed Jan 30, 2013 12:42 pm

bceagles24 wrote:Robert Davis got a BC offer tonight. Got to assume that means Webb isn't coming here but I've liked Davis a bit better. More shift and speed with Davis.


Is the offer all he was waiting for to put BC in the drivers seat ? From what I read Davis was deciding between Cincy and Memphis, so youd have to think Webb would still be an option (obviously unless the offer means Davis is a virtual lock and their would be no spot for Webb).
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Re: 2013 Recruiting Thread

Postby eagle9903 on Wed Jan 30, 2013 1:44 pm

BCSUPERFAN22 wrote:
bceagles24 wrote:Robert Davis got a BC offer tonight. Got to assume that means Webb isn't coming here but I've liked Davis a bit better. More shift and speed with Davis.


Is the offer all he was waiting for to put BC in the drivers seat ? From what I read Davis was deciding between Cincy and Memphis, so youd have to think Webb would still be an option (obviously unless the offer means Davis is a virtual lock and their would be no spot for Webb).


I don't think Webb is coming to BC.
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Re: 2013 Recruiting Thread

Postby HJS on Wed Jan 30, 2013 2:00 pm

eagle9903 wrote:
BCSUPERFAN22 wrote:
bceagles24 wrote:Robert Davis got a BC offer tonight. Got to assume that means Webb isn't coming here but I've liked Davis a bit better. More shift and speed with Davis.


Is the offer all he was waiting for to put BC in the drivers seat ? From what I read Davis was deciding between Cincy and Memphis, so youd have to think Webb would still be an option (obviously unless the offer means Davis is a virtual lock and their would be no spot for Webb).


I don't think Webb is coming to BC.

There is nothing like chasing off offensive players who can throw and catch so you can instill an offensive scheme based exclusively on running the ball... only to then fail at recruiting players who are skilled at running the ball.
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Re: 2013 Recruiting Thread

Postby DavidGordonsFoot on Wed Jan 30, 2013 2:03 pm

I'm no fan of shirtless boys, but there's little reason to believe this class will be anything other than a total disaster, right?
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Re: 2013 Recruiting Thread

Postby eagle9903 on Wed Jan 30, 2013 2:11 pm

DavidGordonsFoot wrote:I'm no fan of shirtless boys, but there's little reason to believe this class will be anything other than a total disaster, right?


1) Denial isn't just a river in egypt;
ii.) yes;
C.) it was already the worst recruiting class since maybe TOB's transition class and I only stop there because I have no idea who was in that class;
----) There were 6 players with BCS offers in the class before the firing (Boyle, Daniels, Montesero, Willis, Milano, Callinan). Two are definitely gone (montesero, Daniels) one is almost definitely gone (Boyle) and one was added before Addazio was hired (Montgomery). The kicker who committed to MSU, didn't have one, but MSU of course is one. So absent knowing who else signs (Cooper, Garcia, and Davis have BCS offers, Spearman and Rouse do not) Addazio inherited an awful class with 8 recruits who had options to go to other BCS schools and lost 3 (almost certainly 4) leaving a class with 4 recruits currently holding BCS offers.
5) in short, yes disaster.

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Re: 2013 Recruiting Thread

Postby Iggle on Wed Jan 30, 2013 2:15 pm

eagle9903 wrote:
DavidGordonsFoot wrote:I'm no fan of shirtless boys, but there's little reason to believe this class will be anything other than a total disaster, right?


1) Denial isn't just a river in egypt;
ii.) yes;
C.) it was already the worst recruiting class since maybe TOB's transition class and I only stop there because I have no idea who was in that class;
----) There were 6 players with BCS offers in the class before the firing (Boyle, Daniels, Montesero, Willis, Milano, Callinan). Two are definitely gone (montesero, Daniels) one is almost definitely gone (Boyle) and one was added before Addazio was hired (Montgomery). The kicker who committed to MSU, didn't have one, but MSU of course is one. So absent knowing who else signs (Cooper, Garcia, and Davis have BCS offers, Spearman and Rouse do not) Addazio inherited an awful class with 8 recruits who had options to go to other BCS schools and lost 3 (almost certainly 4) leaving a class with 4 recruits currently holding BCS offers.
5) in short, yes disaster.

Assign blame as you see appropriate.



my favorite part about this has been Montgomery committing when there was no coach. BC recruits better without a coach than with Spaz or Azzadio (so far)
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Re: 2013 Recruiting Thread

Postby DavidGordonsFoot on Wed Jan 30, 2013 2:20 pm

eagle9903 wrote:
Assign blame as you see appropriate.


OK, I'll address the elephant in the room. It's obviously Jeff Jagodzinski's fault.
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Re: 2013 Recruiting Thread

Postby hansen on Wed Jan 30, 2013 3:34 pm

Much like that game in '04 that never really happened neither did this recruiting class. :shrug
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Re: 2013 Recruiting Thread

Postby Shaddix on Wed Jan 30, 2013 4:08 pm

Robert Davis is visiting on friday. Will then decide between BC, Cincinnati, and Memphis. USF not involved
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Re: 2013 Recruiting Thread

Postby TobaccoRoadEagle on Wed Jan 30, 2013 4:22 pm

RABBLERABBLERABBLE i blame al skinner RABBLERABBLERABBLE
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Re: 2013 Recruiting Thread

Postby innocentbystander on Wed Jan 30, 2013 4:31 pm

hansen wrote:Much like that game in '04 that never really happened neither did this recruiting class. :shrug


gotta love a class of two-stars where BC recruiters had to work so hard to beat out the likes of Temple, Rutgers, UConn, Akron, Ohio, and Central Michigan to their recruits....

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Re: 2013 Recruiting Thread

Postby bceagles24 on Wed Jan 30, 2013 6:01 pm

I'd be very surprised if Davis isn't an Eagle on NSD.
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Re: 2013 Recruiting Thread

Postby joesim on Wed Jan 30, 2013 9:32 pm

Wasn't Raphael Webb supposed to decide today
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Re: 2013 Recruiting Thread

Postby Shaddix on Wed Jan 30, 2013 10:05 pm

joesim wrote:Wasn't Raphael Webb supposed to decide today


Yea but he deleted his twitter. Must mean that he wasn't ready after saying he would be. Vanderbilt apparently has come in late. Will probably decide between Vandy and Minnesota.
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Re: 2013 Recruiting Thread

Postby thebigskinny31 on Thu Jan 31, 2013 10:30 am

Seems like it's down to BC & UConn for Boyle.

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Re: 2013 Recruiting Thread

Postby twballgame9 on Thu Jan 31, 2013 10:40 am

"It's the nature of the beast these days the way [coaches] change schools. [Addazio] basically said you can go up to BC and play, but at some point this offense is going to go in another direction. What Tim is looking at is, 'Hey, I go up there and do the job and I'm playing for two years and all of a sudden he's got all the people he needs to run his offense and I'm sitting on the bench.'"


That is effing atrocious. I'm ready to fire his ass. So no matter how well you do, I am not going to utilize your skill, even if you are the next Dan Marino.

Screw this shit, Addazio is a clown.
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Re: 2013 Recruiting Thread

Postby 31southst on Thu Jan 31, 2013 10:44 am

twballgame9 wrote:"It's the nature of the beast these days the way [coaches] change schools. [Addazio] basically said you can go up to BC and play, but at some point this offense is going to go in another direction. What Tim is looking at is, 'Hey, I go up there and do the job and I'm playing for two years and all of a sudden he's got all the people he needs to run his offense and I'm sitting on the bench.'"


That is effing atrocious. I'm ready to fire his ass. So no matter how well you do, I am not going to utilize your skill, even if you are the next Dan Marino.

Screw this shit, Addazio is a clown.


Yeah that jumped out at me too. Is he seriously saying that if Boyle comes to BC and wins the job for 2014 (certainly possible), he'll bench him for a dual threat guy in the future regardless of how Boyle is playing? That is the height of stupidity/stubbornness if right. If Boyle is good enough for Oregon's system, there's literally zero reason Daz shouldn't be able to bend his system to fit him.

Also, stupid roster management aside, it sounds like we're in for some pretty boring/uncreative football for the next few years. I'm all for running but it sounds like Daz still hasn't gotten on board with this whole notion of a forward pass.
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Re: 2013 Recruiting Thread

Postby eepstein0 on Thu Jan 31, 2013 10:56 am

Im really confused. If the kid could play in Oregon's system, how the heck does he not fit at BC. I thought Boyle was mobile anyway
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Re: 2013 Recruiting Thread

Postby eagle9903 on Thu Jan 31, 2013 11:01 am

31southst wrote:
twballgame9 wrote:"It's the nature of the beast these days the way [coaches] change schools. [Addazio] basically said you can go up to BC and play, but at some point this offense is going to go in another direction. What Tim is looking at is, 'Hey, I go up there and do the job and I'm playing for two years and all of a sudden he's got all the people he needs to run his offense and I'm sitting on the bench.'"


That is effing atrocious. I'm ready to fire his ass. So no matter how well you do, I am not going to utilize your skill, even if you are the next Dan Marino.

Screw this shit, Addazio is a clown.


Yeah that jumped out at me too. Is he seriously saying that if Boyle comes to BC and wins the job for 2014 (certainly possible), he'll bench him for a dual threat guy in the future regardless of how Boyle is playing? That is the height of stupidity/stubbornness if right. If Boyle is good enough for Oregon's system, there's literally zero reason Daz shouldn't be able to bend his system to fit him.

Also, stupid roster management aside, it sounds like we're in for some pretty boring/uncreative football for the next few years. I'm all for running but it sounds like Daz still hasn't gotten on board with this whole notion of a forward pass.


Are we saying he should 1) cater his offense to a recruit for four years? or are we saying 2) he should be less clear to the recruit about what his offensive philosophy is?

I guess my question is, when do you figure out if Boyle is the next "Dan Marino?" I mean unless Chase transfers, he is clearly the starter in year one. Since not just the QB but many other positions change in a spread vs. pro set, what do you do in year 2? Have Boyle run in an offense he doesn't seem suited for or tailor an offense for him? What if he sucks then? Suntrup was a pretty highly rated pro style qb recruit and according to some posters is awful.

I love what Logan did with Ryan, but this is not an apt comparison to that. The apt comparison to that will be how Chase is used in 2013.
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Re: 2013 Recruiting Thread

Postby innocentbystander on Thu Jan 31, 2013 11:04 am

31southst wrote:
twballgame9 wrote:"It's the nature of the beast these days the way [coaches] change schools. [Addazio] basically said you can go up to BC and play, but at some point this offense is going to go in another direction. What Tim is looking at is, 'Hey, I go up there and do the job and I'm playing for two years and all of a sudden he's got all the people he needs to run his offense and I'm sitting on the bench.'"


That is effing atrocious. I'm ready to fire his ass. So no matter how well you do, I am not going to utilize your skill, even if you are the next Dan Marino.

Screw this shit, Addazio is a clown.


Yeah that jumped out at me too. Is he seriously saying that if Boyle comes to BC and wins the job for 2014 (certainly possible), he'll bench him for a dual threat guy in the future regardless of how Boyle is playing? That is the height of stupidity/stubbornness if right. If Boyle is good enough for Oregon's system, there's literally zero reason Daz shouldn't be able to bend his system to fit him.


There is a reason, a very good reason why Daz can't bend his system. The reason is Daz is a shitty coach and a stupid man with no creativity.

Any college football coach who REFUSES to adjust his systems to accomidate the strengths of the best players that he has available to him, while minimizing their detractions, is a stubborn ass who is basically too stupid to have the authority to be coaching at the BCS level. The game has passed these old codgers by and they are of no further use. Fuck him.

He hasn't coached a game, but if this is true what Boyle is sayign about Daz, I am already done with him. Fuck you too Brad Bates for going cheap and hiring Daz and fuck you BOT for thinking you can get a good coach on the cheap. You all suck. :gun
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Re: 2013 Recruiting Thread

Postby twballgame9 on Thu Jan 31, 2013 11:13 am

eepstein0 wrote:Im really confused. If the kid could play in Oregon's system, how the heck does he not fit at BC. I thought Boyle was mobile anyway


Oregon's system isn't Oregon's system anymore.
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Re: 2013 Recruiting Thread

Postby twballgame9 on Thu Jan 31, 2013 11:14 am

eagle9903 wrote:
31southst wrote:
twballgame9 wrote:"It's the nature of the beast these days the way [coaches] change schools. [Addazio] basically said you can go up to BC and play, but at some point this offense is going to go in another direction. What Tim is looking at is, 'Hey, I go up there and do the job and I'm playing for two years and all of a sudden he's got all the people he needs to run his offense and I'm sitting on the bench.'"


That is effing atrocious. I'm ready to fire his ass. So no matter how well you do, I am not going to utilize your skill, even if you are the next Dan Marino.

Screw this shit, Addazio is a clown.


Yeah that jumped out at me too. Is he seriously saying that if Boyle comes to BC and wins the job for 2014 (certainly possible), he'll bench him for a dual threat guy in the future regardless of how Boyle is playing? That is the height of stupidity/stubbornness if right. If Boyle is good enough for Oregon's system, there's literally zero reason Daz shouldn't be able to bend his system to fit him.

Also, stupid roster management aside, it sounds like we're in for some pretty boring/uncreative football for the next few years. I'm all for running but it sounds like Daz still hasn't gotten on board with this whole notion of a forward pass.


Are we saying he should 1) cater his offense to a recruit for four years? or are we saying 2) he should be less clear to the recruit about what his offensive philosophy is?

I guess my question is, when do you figure out if Boyle is the next "Dan Marino?" I mean unless Chase transfers, he is clearly the starter in year one. Since not just the QB but many other positions change in a spread vs. pro set, what do you do in year 2? Have Boyle run in an offense he doesn't seem suited for or tailor an offense for him? What if he sucks then? Suntrup was a pretty highly rated pro style qb recruit and according to some posters is awful.

I love what Logan did with Ryan, but this is not an apt comparison to that. The apt comparison to that will be how Chase is used in 2013.


We are saying that if your offense is so inflexible that you cannot adjust to the talent on a year by year basis, you suck ass as a coach.
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Re: 2013 Recruiting Thread

Postby innocentbystander on Thu Jan 31, 2013 11:14 am

eagle9903 wrote:
31southst wrote:
twballgame9 wrote:"It's the nature of the beast these days the way [coaches] change schools. [Addazio] basically said you can go up to BC and play, but at some point this offense is going to go in another direction. What Tim is looking at is, 'Hey, I go up there and do the job and I'm playing for two years and all of a sudden he's got all the people he needs to run his offense and I'm sitting on the bench.'"


That is effing atrocious. I'm ready to fire his ass. So no matter how well you do, I am not going to utilize your skill, even if you are the next Dan Marino.

Screw this shit, Addazio is a clown.


Yeah that jumped out at me too. Is he seriously saying that if Boyle comes to BC and wins the job for 2014 (certainly possible), he'll bench him for a dual threat guy in the future regardless of how Boyle is playing? That is the height of stupidity/stubbornness if right. If Boyle is good enough for Oregon's system, there's literally zero reason Daz shouldn't be able to bend his system to fit him.

Also, stupid roster management aside, it sounds like we're in for some pretty boring/uncreative football for the next few years. I'm all for running but it sounds like Daz still hasn't gotten on board with this whole notion of a forward pass.


Are we saying he should 1) cater his offense to a recruit for four years? or are we saying 2) he should be less clear to the recruit about what his offensive philosophy is?


As a coach at Boston College, you do NOT have the recruiting clout to select the BEST players in the country that you know will fit perfectly into the offensive and defensive systems that exist in your comfort zone. You don't. So your goal should be even simpler, recruit the absolute BEST players that are available REGARDLESS of whether or not you think they fit in your system.

When you get those best players, you adjust your system to maximize their strengths. Get out of your coaching comfort zone and accomadate your player's comfort zone in an effort to increase your chances of winning the fucking game. That is what a good coach at BC would do. If what Boyle is saying is true, it appears we might not have that in Daz. I'm not the least bit surprised about that, since the BOT didn't provide Brad Bates enough money to pay for a real coach who has the capacity to understand that you do whatever it takes to win. We are still stuck in the "..nice guy who likes his players..." crap.
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