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Re: 2013 Recruiting Thread

Postby Shaddix on Fri Jan 25, 2013 6:03 pm

NJM89 wrote:O well good luck to the kid. Still got two great qb's coming in next year. Good thing about having Washington back on staff is that him and 2014 QB WIll Ulmer were pretty close. Looks like he starting to blow up so hopefully we can make a run at him since he will be one of the top dual threats.


Will Ulmer could be a program changing recruit, he's very very good.
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Re: 2013 Recruiting Thread

Postby GT BoSox on Fri Jan 25, 2013 6:13 pm

Probably no shocker here, but Monteroso committed to Purdue over Maryland.
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Re: 2013 Recruiting Thread

Postby eagle9903 on Fri Jan 25, 2013 9:05 pm

HJS wrote:
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hinghameagle wrote:Why in the world would the dazzler stop recruiting a running first throwing second qb, becuase he lost out of Julien? Does losing out on Julien, the first dual threat qb he has recruited at BC, mean that there are no dual threat qb's who would ever want to come to BC? Let's be realistic here. If Daz is out recruiting dual threat qb's then that is the type of offense he wants and will continue to recruit these type of kids. Is it the wrong offense for Bc in my mind, yes, but my mind doesnt count.

I don't believe Julian was Dazoo's first choice as a running QB. I believe he made runs at kids like Woulard and Brisset and didn't get anywhere with them. To me, Julian is evidence that even 4th tier run-first QBs are difficult for BC to land.


I kind of agree with you, and don't know whether Addazio will ever get off the ground, but what do you think would have happened if Jags and/or Logan had stayed two more years with Davis?

First, Logan's offense (while a version of the spread) was pass-happy. Daz's version of the spread is more an evolution of Army's offense.
Second, Dom Davis fit that role as he became a very good passer. It should also be noted that DD was some last second recruit who the staff identified very quickly (along with Costanzo). Jags, while being removed from the college game, somehow was able to identify and sell kids better than Dazoo (which is simply incredible).
Third, Matt Ryan changed Logan. While Logan preferred a scrambler, Ryan showed how accuracy was the most important element to his offense.

The only passer Daz has ever had was Brantley. And Daz himself acknowledges that he handled that terribly. He is going to need to adjust (or just let HCRD take complete control). If he doesn't, he's even money to have a shorter tenure than his predecessor.


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Re: 2013 Recruiting Thread

Postby RegalBCeagle on Fri Jan 25, 2013 9:13 pm

bceagles24 wrote:Looks like a loyalty thing with Julian:

"I have committed to Toledo," Julian stated Friday. "They were with me from the start and stayed with me all the way. A lot of great programs came in late, but Toledo impressed me from the start and I love the coaching staff. My second choice would have been Boston College."


A sad state of affairs when a career as a Mud Hen is chosen over one as a Golden Eagle.
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Re: 2013 Recruiting Thread

Postby 2001Eagle on Fri Jan 25, 2013 9:30 pm

RegalBCeagle wrote:
bceagles24 wrote:Looks like a loyalty thing with Julian:

"I have committed to Toledo," Julian stated Friday. "They were with me from the start and stayed with me all the way. A lot of great programs came in late, but Toledo impressed me from the start and I love the coaching staff. My second choice would have been Boston College."


A sad state of affairs when a career as a Mud Hen is chosen over one as a Golden Eagle.


Whatever. Have fun in Toledo kid. Maybe he can drive over to the big city and visit monteroso in west Lafayette.
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Re: 2013 Recruiting Thread

Postby joesim on Sat Jan 26, 2013 2:02 am

Donnie White Jr. flips commitment
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De Smet Jesuit (St. Louis) product Donnie White Jr. has changed his pledge from Tulsa to New Mexico, according to multiple sources. He officially visited the Lobos on Jan. 11th.

White Jr., a three-star prospect, spent some of September on the road, making official visits to Tulsa (Sept. 21st) and Boston College (Sept. 28th). He later announced for the Golden Hurricane in November.

Arkansas, Arkansas State, Ball State, Miami-OH, Western Kentucky and Wyoming also extended scholarship offers to the 6-foot-2, 220-pound senior. Several other programs including Arizona State, Cincinnati, Duke, Illinois, Iowa State, Missouri and Rice showed interest.

ESPN writes in his evaluation, "White has room for improvement both physically and as a player, but the kid has some tools, and with a little more consistency and further development, he could be a productive college defensive end whose strength may be as a pass rusher."

He is now the highest-rated 2013 Lobo verbal.
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Re: 2013 Recruiting Thread

Postby RegalBCeagle on Sat Jan 26, 2013 10:10 am

While I do give the new staff a pass on this year's recruiting class, I do find it curiously comical that Daz is not only whiffing on his late offers to kids that end up choosing non BCS teams, but he's also losing the class' highest rated recruits. Kids that committed to BC knowing full well Spaziani would not be coming back as HC next season.

All in all, not a good start for Bates' boy, Daziani!
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Re: 2013 Recruiting Thread

Postby basselope on Sat Jan 26, 2013 11:55 am

Not sure why Michael Julian picked Toledo but I do know that his HS coach would speak very highly of the Toledo coach.

To expand on what GreenvilleEagle pointed out

His HS Coach BJ Payne and the Toledo Coach Matt Campbell both grew up in Massillon Ohio
They both play DL in College at Mount Union on Div III National Championship teams.

Payne is 4 years older and played in 1995 - 1998 and Campbell followed him to Mount in 1999 - 2002.
I believe Payne actually recruited Campbell to Mount, so they would know each other very well.

As far as recruiting QB's, we are fine with Boyle & Lowrie.
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Re: 2013 Recruiting Thread

Postby HJS on Sat Jan 26, 2013 12:58 pm

RegalBCeagle wrote:While I do give the new staff a pass on this year's recruiting class, I do find it curiously comical that Daz is not only whiffing on his late offers to kids that end up choosing non BCS teams, but he's also losing the class' highest rated recruits. Kids that committed to BC knowing full well Spaziani would not be coming back as HC next season.

All in all, not a good start for Bates' boy, Daziani!

Agreed. But, I think what I (and most) find confounding about Daz's interim class here is that Daz isn't someone removed from the college game for a decade. He is someone who has been consistently and continuously on the recruiting trail. Spazoo assistants have left and taken our recruits (or kids we were recruiting) with them. Not only has The Dazzler failed to do that but he his assistants have ALSO failed in opening doors to 2013 kids they had been recruiting. It's somewhat troubling. Perhaps things change with a full year selling BC. Perhaps 2-10 is too toxic. Perhaps Daziani has some magical Rcruiting Coordinator he has been waiting to announce that will cure all of our problems. I don't know. But, even his most ardent supporters expected more on the recruiting front than what has been delivered.

What's crazy here is that, even though it's only 50 days later, I'd bet anything that BB wouldn't hire Dazoo if he had the chance to do it over again. The only good news here is that if (and that's a big IF) gets the chance to hire another coach in a major sport, he will know not to listen to the "We Are What We Are" assholes like Marin and Leo.
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Re: 2013 Recruiting Thread

Postby EagleDave on Sat Jan 26, 2013 2:25 pm

HJS wrote:
RegalBCeagle wrote:While I do give the new staff a pass on this year's recruiting class, I do find it curiously comical that Daz is not only whiffing on his late offers to kids that end up choosing non BCS teams, but he's also losing the class' highest rated recruits. Kids that committed to BC knowing full well Spaziani would not be coming back as HC next season.

All in all, not a good start for Bates' boy, Daziani!

Agreed. But, I think what I (and most) find confounding about Daz's interim class here is that Daz isn't someone removed from the college game for a decade. He is someone who has been consistently and continuously on the recruiting trail. Spazoo assistants have left and taken our recruits (or kids we were recruiting) with them. Not only has The Dazzler failed to do that but he his assistants have ALSO failed in opening doors to 2013 kids they had been recruiting. It's somewhat troubling. Perhaps things change with a full year selling BC. Perhaps 2-10 is too toxic. Perhaps Daziani has some magical Rcruiting Coordinator he has been waiting to announce that will cure all of our problems. I don't know. But, even his most ardent supporters expected more on the recruiting front than what has been delivered.

What's crazy here is that, even though it's only 50 days later, I'd bet anything that BB wouldn't hire Dazoo if he had the chance to do it over again. The only good news here is that if (and that's a big IF) gets the chance to hire another coach in a major sport, he will know not to listen to the "We Are What We Are" assholes like Marin and Leo.


If you believe ATL, he DIDN'T listen to the "We Are What We Are" assholes as they supposedly told him NOT to hire the Dazzler.
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Re: 2013 Recruiting Thread

Postby Iggle on Sat Jan 26, 2013 2:41 pm

Did the "We are what we are" people remind Addazio that BC can't recruit dual threat QBs because we're a school that can't recruit dual threat QBs because we are what we are?
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Re: 2013 Recruiting Thread

Postby HJS on Sat Jan 26, 2013 2:53 pm

This is a pretty big recruiting weekend for most schools. Why haven't we heard of any 2013 visitors???
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Re: 2013 Recruiting Thread

Postby HJS on Sat Jan 26, 2013 2:56 pm

EagleDave wrote:
HJS wrote:
RegalBCeagle wrote:While I do give the new staff a pass on this year's recruiting class, I do find it curiously comical that Daz is not only whiffing on his late offers to kids that end up choosing non BCS teams, but he's also losing the class' highest rated recruits. Kids that committed to BC knowing full well Spaziani would not be coming back as HC next season.

All in all, not a good start for Bates' boy, Daziani!

Agreed. But, I think what I (and most) find confounding about Daz's interim class here is that Daz isn't someone removed from the college game for a decade. He is someone who has been consistently and continuously on the recruiting trail. Spazoo assistants have left and taken our recruits (or kids we were recruiting) with them. Not only has The Dazzler failed to do that but he his assistants have ALSO failed in opening doors to 2013 kids they had been recruiting. It's somewhat troubling. Perhaps things change with a full year selling BC. Perhaps 2-10 is too toxic. Perhaps Daziani has some magical Rcruiting Coordinator he has been waiting to announce that will cure all of our problems. I don't know. But, even his most ardent supporters expected more on the recruiting front than what has been delivered.

What's crazy here is that, even though it's only 50 days later, I'd bet anything that BB wouldn't hire Dazoo if he had the chance to do it over again. The only good news here is that if (and that's a big IF) gets the chance to hire another coach in a major sport, he will know not to listen to the "We Are What We Are" assholes like Marin and Leo.


If you believe ATL, he DIDN'T listen to the "We Are What We Are" assholes as they supposedly told him NOT to hire the Dazzler.

You have it wrong. What ATL said was that there were plenty of groups who gave input early in the process and warned BB about potential candidates. However, he ignored them in favor of the same tired folks who run the school (admin and Board) who were vocal in the hiring of Spazoo.
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Re: 2013 Recruiting Thread

Postby EagleDave on Sat Jan 26, 2013 6:47 pm

HJS wrote:
EagleDave wrote:
HJS wrote:
RegalBCeagle wrote:While I do give the new staff a pass on this year's recruiting class, I do find it curiously comical that Daz is not only whiffing on his late offers to kids that end up choosing non BCS teams, but he's also losing the class' highest rated recruits. Kids that committed to BC knowing full well Spaziani would not be coming back as HC next season.

All in all, not a good start for Bates' boy, Daziani!

Agreed. But, I think what I (and most) find confounding about Daz's interim class here is that Daz isn't someone removed from the college game for a decade. He is someone who has been consistently and continuously on the recruiting trail. Spazoo assistants have left and taken our recruits (or kids we were recruiting) with them. Not only has The Dazzler failed to do that but he his assistants have ALSO failed in opening doors to 2013 kids they had been recruiting. It's somewhat troubling. Perhaps things change with a full year selling BC. Perhaps 2-10 is too toxic. Perhaps Daziani has some magical Rcruiting Coordinator he has been waiting to announce that will cure all of our problems. I don't know. But, even his most ardent supporters expected more on the recruiting front than what has been delivered.

What's crazy here is that, even though it's only 50 days later, I'd bet anything that BB wouldn't hire Dazoo if he had the chance to do it over again. The only good news here is that if (and that's a big IF) gets the chance to hire another coach in a major sport, he will know not to listen to the "We Are What We Are" assholes like Marin and Leo.


If you believe ATL, he DIDN'T listen to the "We Are What We Are" assholes as they supposedly told him NOT to hire the Dazzler.

You have it wrong. What ATL said was that there were plenty of groups who gave input early in the process and warned BB about potential candidates. However, he ignored them in favor of the same tired folks who run the school (admin and Board) who were vocal in the hiring of Spazoo.


Via ATL:

In his off-campus Pow Wow before Thanksgiving with select "friends of BC," the group told Brad Bates that three names would be deflating hires to the BC fanbase. Those names were Tim Murphy, Sean McDonnell and Steve Addazio.


I think we're saying the same thing which is that he went against the advice of people who told him not to hire Dazzler. I think I just believe this "friends of BC" group consisted of "We Are What We Are" douches.
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Re: 2013 Recruiting Thread

Postby HJS on Sat Jan 26, 2013 7:17 pm

EagleDave wrote:
HJS wrote:
EagleDave wrote:
HJS wrote:
RegalBCeagle wrote:While I do give the new staff a pass on this year's recruiting class, I do find it curiously comical that Daz is not only whiffing on his late offers to kids that end up choosing non BCS teams, but he's also losing the class' highest rated recruits. Kids that committed to BC knowing full well Spaziani would not be coming back as HC next season.

All in all, not a good start for Bates' boy, Daziani!

Agreed. But, I think what I (and most) find confounding about Daz's interim class here is that Daz isn't someone removed from the college game for a decade. He is someone who has been consistently and continuously on the recruiting trail. Spazoo assistants have left and taken our recruits (or kids we were recruiting) with them. Not only has The Dazzler failed to do that but he his assistants have ALSO failed in opening doors to 2013 kids they had been recruiting. It's somewhat troubling. Perhaps things change with a full year selling BC. Perhaps 2-10 is too toxic. Perhaps Daziani has some magical Rcruiting Coordinator he has been waiting to announce that will cure all of our problems. I don't know. But, even his most ardent supporters expected more on the recruiting front than what has been delivered.

What's crazy here is that, even though it's only 50 days later, I'd bet anything that BB wouldn't hire Dazoo if he had the chance to do it over again. The only good news here is that if (and that's a big IF) gets the chance to hire another coach in a major sport, he will know not to listen to the "We Are What We Are" assholes like Marin and Leo.


If you believe ATL, he DIDN'T listen to the "We Are What We Are" assholes as they supposedly told him NOT to hire the Dazzler.

You have it wrong. What ATL said was that there were plenty of groups who gave input early in the process and warned BB about potential candidates. However, he ignored them in favor of the same tired folks who run the school (admin and Board) who were vocal in the hiring of Spazoo.


Via ATL:

In his off-campus Pow Wow before Thanksgiving with select "friends of BC," the group told Brad Bates that three names would be deflating hires to the BC fanbase. Those names were Tim Murphy, Sean McDonnell and Steve Addazio.


I think we're saying the same thing which is that he went against the advice of people who told him not to hire Dazzler. I think I just believe this "friends of BC" group consisted of "We Are What We Are" douches.

I know some who were a part of it and they are very, very far from the We Are What We Are types. They were the Flynn Fund guys and former players who were gutted by the hire because they believed BB's bullshit.
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Re: 2013 Recruiting Thread

Postby eepstein0 on Sat Jan 26, 2013 7:42 pm

HJS wrote:
EagleDave wrote:
HJS wrote:
EagleDave wrote:
HJS wrote:
RegalBCeagle wrote:While I do give the new staff a pass on this year's recruiting class, I do find it curiously comical that Daz is not only whiffing on his late offers to kids that end up choosing non BCS teams, but he's also losing the class' highest rated recruits. Kids that committed to BC knowing full well Spaziani would not be coming back as HC next season.

All in all, not a good start for Bates' boy, Daziani!

Agreed. But, I think what I (and most) find confounding about Daz's interim class here is that Daz isn't someone removed from the college game for a decade. He is someone who has been consistently and continuously on the recruiting trail. Spazoo assistants have left and taken our recruits (or kids we were recruiting) with them. Not only has The Dazzler failed to do that but he his assistants have ALSO failed in opening doors to 2013 kids they had been recruiting. It's somewhat troubling. Perhaps things change with a full year selling BC. Perhaps 2-10 is too toxic. Perhaps Daziani has some magical Rcruiting Coordinator he has been waiting to announce that will cure all of our problems. I don't know. But, even his most ardent supporters expected more on the recruiting front than what has been delivered.

What's crazy here is that, even though it's only 50 days later, I'd bet anything that BB wouldn't hire Dazoo if he had the chance to do it over again. The only good news here is that if (and that's a big IF) gets the chance to hire another coach in a major sport, he will know not to listen to the "We Are What We Are" assholes like Marin and Leo.


If you believe ATL, he DIDN'T listen to the "We Are What We Are" assholes as they supposedly told him NOT to hire the Dazzler.

You have it wrong. What ATL said was that there were plenty of groups who gave input early in the process and warned BB about potential candidates. However, he ignored them in favor of the same tired folks who run the school (admin and Board) who were vocal in the hiring of Spazoo.


Via ATL:

In his off-campus Pow Wow before Thanksgiving with select "friends of BC," the group told Brad Bates that three names would be deflating hires to the BC fanbase. Those names were Tim Murphy, Sean McDonnell and Steve Addazio.


I think we're saying the same thing which is that he went against the advice of people who told him not to hire Dazzler. I think I just believe this "friends of BC" group consisted of "We Are What We Are" douches.

I know some who were a part of it and they are very, very far from the We Are What We Are types. They were the Flynn Fund guys and former players who were gutted by the hire because they believed BB's bullshit.


I'd again like to see him coach a game before we proclaim this a bad hire
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Re: 2013 Recruiting Thread

Postby apbc12 on Sat Jan 26, 2013 8:11 pm

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Re: 2013 Recruiting Thread

Postby ATLeagle on Sat Jan 26, 2013 10:24 pm

Just to clarify, the group that met with Bates were not "we are what we are." They think BC should be as good as Stanford under Harbough or Coughlin 20 years ago.
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Re: 2013 Recruiting Thread

Postby EagleDave on Sat Jan 26, 2013 10:44 pm

ATLeagle wrote:Just to clarify, the group that met with Bates were not "we are what we are." They think BC should be as good as Stanford under Harbough or Coughlin 20 years ago.


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Re: 2013 Recruiting Thread

Postby eagle9903 on Sun Jan 27, 2013 8:34 am

ATLeagle wrote:Just to clarify, the group that met with Bates were not "we are what we are." They think BC should be as good as Stanford under Harbough or Coughlin 20 years ago.


To further clarify you are not referring to grid iron club people right? Because a majority of those guys have either a we are what we are outlook or a fraternity outlook (hire one of us!) As far as I can tell.
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Re: 2013 Recruiting Thread

Postby DomingoOrtiz on Sun Jan 27, 2013 9:15 am

ATLeagle wrote:Just to clarify, the group that met with Bates were not "we are what we are." They think BC should be as good as Stanford under Harbough or Coughlin 20 years ago.



So it wasn't the marineagle type's that think hiring a coach will never leave is of the utmost importance?
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Re: 2013 Recruiting Thread

Postby bceagles24 on Sun Jan 27, 2013 1:05 pm

Addazio got his QB. James Walsh committed.
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Re: 2013 Recruiting Thread

Postby 31southst on Sun Jan 27, 2013 1:14 pm

bceagles24 wrote:Addazio got his QB. James Walsh committed.


I hope I'm wrong but I think this is a waste of a scholarship. It's not readily apparent that Walsh is a legit BCS level QB and it indicates to me that Daz is more tied to his system than playing the best players. I get that we'll need a QB next year and there's something to be said that throwing as many guys into the mix as possible will give us the most options, but it seems like a reach to me.
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Re: 2013 Recruiting Thread

Postby BCSUPERFAN22 on Sun Jan 27, 2013 1:16 pm

bceagles24 wrote:Addazio got his QB. James Walsh committed.


Seems to move well. His junior tape reminds me a lot of lowries (ie just throwing over secondary to wide open WR). No clue as to the level of talent in this section of Ohio. One the Ohio message boards suggested he would have plenty of bars to choose from in Boston to watch Ohio win bowl games (after getting there panties in a wad when he commited originally to Ohio).

I assume this means McEvoy is a no go (prob long shot anyway with Oregon on him)
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Re: 2013 Recruiting Thread

Postby DomingoOrtiz on Sun Jan 27, 2013 2:07 pm

31southst wrote:
bceagles24 wrote:Addazio got his QB. James Walsh committed.


I hope I'm wrong but I think this is a waste of a scholarship. It's not readily apparent that Walsh is a legit BCS level QB and it indicates to me that Daz is more tied to his system than playing the best players. I get that we'll need a QB next year and there's something to be said that throwing as many guys into the mix as possible will give us the most options, but it seems like a reach to me.



This. The Daz hire gets worse every day.
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Re: 2013 Recruiting Thread

Postby eagle9903 on Sun Jan 27, 2013 3:25 pm

31southst wrote:
bceagles24 wrote:Addazio got his QB. James Walsh committed.


I hope I'm wrong but I think this is a waste of a scholarship. It's not readily apparent that Walsh is a legit BCS level QB and it indicates to me that Daz is more tied to his system than playing the best players. I get that we'll need a QB next year and there's something to be said that throwing as many guys into the mix as possible will give us the most options, but it seems like a reach to me.


This could be. If Boyle leaves that would not be great, but he seems solid ay this point. I do believe that if the pro style guys post chase all stink (suntrup, boyle, lowry) that it is easier to have a semi productive offense with a not good dual threat guy than a not good pro style guy.
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Re: 2013 Recruiting Thread

Postby Shaddix on Sun Jan 27, 2013 4:54 pm

Well, Walsh is certainly much better then any QB Temple has had in Addazio's reign
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Re: 2013 Recruiting Thread

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Re: 2013 Recruiting Thread

Postby eepstein0 on Sun Jan 27, 2013 5:37 pm

Shaddix wrote:Well, Walsh is certainly much better then any QB Temple has had in Addazio's reign


Why are we still signing kids with no other BCS offers?

Sometimes, I really question the decision making in this athletic department concerning recruiting
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Re: 2013 Recruiting Thread

Postby Shaddix on Sun Jan 27, 2013 6:16 pm

eepstein0 wrote:
Shaddix wrote:Well, Walsh is certainly much better then any QB Temple has had in Addazio's reign


Why are we still signing kids with no other BCS offers?

Sometimes, I really question the decision making in this athletic department concerning recruiting


People said that about Monteroso and Daniels as well.... Walsh is also the number 22 rated dual threat QB according to rivals, ahead of FSU and Baylor commits. I don't think his film looks outstanding by any means, but he could develop into a pretty good QB.
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