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flyingelvii {l Wrote}:Yeah you're just trying to argue yourself into believing that because you didn't like him as a player. In his six full years as a starter (2006-2011) he had a slash line of .292/.392/.500 while averaging 20 HRs and 84 RBI. Just as a point of reference, over that same period Mark Teixeira put up a slash line of .281/.378/.527 while averaging 34 HR and 113 RBI. If Youk's six years are considered average, well, shit, I'll take average everyday of the week, especially they were paying him at a below market rate for much of the duration of the contract.

As to your contribution argument, it's clearly semantics regarding degree of contribution so go ahead believing whatever grossly specific definition you'd like to believe. I apologize the Ramiro Mendoza comment touched a nerve on a player you are unable to discuss rationally.

twballgame9 {l Wrote}:He's a typical Boston athlete that gets blown way out of proportion to his accomplishments because he is perceived to be a hard worker. I usually fall for that shit too, I liked Trot Nixon, Tim Wakefield and Jason Varitek, and stood up and cheered for them when they came back. Youk was such a dbag, I see no reason to fall for it this time.

bignick33 {l Wrote}:

twballgame9 {l Wrote}:He's a typical Boston athlete that gets blown way out of proportion to his accomplishments because he is perceived to be a hard worker. I usually fall for that shit too, I liked Trot Nixon, Tim Wakefield and Jason Varitek, and stood up and cheered for them when they came back. Youk was such a dbag, I see no reason to fall for it this time.

I see your Nixon/Tek/Wake with Darren Bragg and raise you with Sweet Lou Merloni.

flyingelvii {l Wrote}:

bignick33 {l Wrote}:

twballgame9 {l Wrote}:He's a typical Boston athlete that gets blown way out of proportion to his accomplishments because he is perceived to be a hard worker. I usually fall for that shit too, I liked Trot Nixon, Tim Wakefield and Jason Varitek, and stood up and cheered for them when they came back. Youk was such a dbag, I see no reason to fall for it this time.

I see your Nixon/Tek/Wake with Darren Bragg and raise you with Sweet Lou Merloni.

I cringe to imagine what would have happened if the Sox didn't get rid of David Eckstein.

flyingelvii {l Wrote}:Ah, throwing out relevant data and information to fit a narrative. Just a great sign of a bang-up argument. Those years actually happened and are part of the reason he's appreciated in Boston. So I'm not sure why they aren't relevant other than the aformentioned narrative point.

I will continue to point out that your definition of contribution is extremely narrow and basically means only about 4 non-pitchers can provide a material contribution to the success of a team. Now go back and cry into your Ramiro Mendoza pillow.

bignick33 {l Wrote}:

twballgame9 {l Wrote}:He's a typical Boston athlete that gets blown way out of proportion to his accomplishments because he is perceived to be a hard worker. I usually fall for that shit too, I liked Trot Nixon, Tim Wakefield and Jason Varitek, and stood up and cheered for them when they came back. Youk was such a dbag, I see no reason to fall for it this time.

I see your Nixon/Tek/Wake with Darren Bragg and raise you with Sweet Lou Merloni.

twballgame9 {l Wrote}:

bignick33 {l Wrote}:

twballgame9 {l Wrote}:He's a typical Boston athlete that gets blown way out of proportion to his accomplishments because he is perceived to be a hard worker. I usually fall for that shit too, I liked Trot Nixon, Tim Wakefield and Jason Varitek, and stood up and cheered for them when they came back. Youk was such a dbag, I see no reason to fall for it this time.

I see your Nixon/Tek/Wake with Darren Bragg and raise you with Sweet Lou Merloni.

Darren Bragg was wicked awesome, he facking played hahd.

bignick33 {l Wrote}:

twballgame9 {l Wrote}:

bignick33 {l Wrote}:

twballgame9 {l Wrote}:He's a typical Boston athlete that gets blown way out of proportion to his accomplishments because he is perceived to be a hard worker. I usually fall for that shit too, I liked Trot Nixon, Tim Wakefield and Jason Varitek, and stood up and cheered for them when they came back. Youk was such a dbag, I see no reason to fall for it this time.

I see your Nixon/Tek/Wake with Darren Bragg and raise you with Sweet Lou Merloni.

Darren Bragg was wicked awesome, he facking played hahd.

We'd be remiss if we left out Dauber, another one of the original dirt dogs.

DavidGordonsFoot {l Wrote}:

claver2010 {l Wrote}:Do you guys need a room or something?

They do.

So did the pinkhats notice you were booing, not Yoouking?

twballgame9 {l Wrote}:

flyingelvii {l Wrote}:Ah, throwing out relevant data and information to fit a narrative. Just a great sign of a bang-up argument. Those years actually happened and are part of the reason he's appreciated in Boston. So I'm not sure why they aren't relevant other than the aformentioned narrative point.

I will continue to point out that your definition of contribution is extremely narrow and basically means only about 4 non-pitchers can provide a material contribution to the success of a team. Now go back and cry into your Ramiro Mendoza pillow.

Nothing better than when you run out of things to say and start criticizing others' arguing techniques. Laugh out loud funny. Almost as good as when you try to be insulting with some idiotic David Letterman-esque recurring theme, like "I'll get you real good, I'll pretend you like Ramiro Mendoza every time I have nothing to say."

Dance. No one forgot the PED years, pink hat.

claver2010 {l Wrote}:

DavidGordonsFoot {l Wrote}:

claver2010 {l Wrote}:Do you guys need a room or something?

They do.

So did the pinkhats notice you were booing, not Yoouking?

Missed his first AB as we were still on Lansdowne St., the bar had AC and we were in no rush to go in.

I booed his next couple of ABs, either no one noticed or no one cared. In true BC fan fashion though, I left after the 7th.

flyingelvii {l Wrote}:Wrong thread. This is for discussions regarding Ramiro Mendoza, fantasy baseball and excessively sweaty baseball players, in varying order.

I believe that last point means the SoD has spread to Shea Field.

DavidGordonsFoot {l Wrote}:

claver2010 {l Wrote}:

DavidGordonsFoot {l Wrote}:

claver2010 {l Wrote}:Do you guys need a room or something?

They do.

So did the pinkhats notice you were booing, not Yoouking?

Missed his first AB as we were still on Lansdowne St., the bar had AC and we were in no rush to go in.

I booed his next couple of ABs, either no one noticed or no one cared. In true BC fan fashion though, I left after the 7th.

You skipped the karaoke party. Good for you.

bignick33 {l Wrote}:

flyingelvii {l Wrote}:Wrong thread. This is for discussions regarding Ramiro Mendoza, fantasy baseball and excessively sweaty baseball players, in varying order.

I believe that last point means the SoD has spread to Shea Field.

u mad bro?

flyingelvii {l Wrote}:

bignick33 {l Wrote}:

flyingelvii {l Wrote}:Wrong thread. This is for discussions regarding Ramiro Mendoza, fantasy baseball and excessively sweaty baseball players, in varying order.

I believe that last point means the SoD has spread to Shea Field.

u mad bro?

Ah man. That was supposed to be a joke. Guess this is the problem when nobody thinks you're funny.

Though I will now listen to "Hey Ma". So there was some good to come from this.

flyingelvii {l Wrote}:

twballgame9 {l Wrote}:

flyingelvii {l Wrote}:Ah, throwing out relevant data and information to fit a narrative. Just a great sign of a bang-up argument. Those years actually happened and are part of the reason he's appreciated in Boston. So I'm not sure why they aren't relevant other than the aformentioned narrative point.

I will continue to point out that your definition of contribution is extremely narrow and basically means only about 4 non-pitchers can provide a material contribution to the success of a team. Now go back and cry into your Ramiro Mendoza pillow.

Nothing better than when you run out of things to say and start criticizing others' arguing techniques. Laugh out loud funny. Almost as good as when you try to be insulting with some idiotic David Letterman-esque recurring theme, like "I'll get you real good, I'll pretend you like Ramiro Mendoza every time I have nothing to say."

Dance. No one forgot the PED years, pink hat.

Get back to me when your argument doesn't rely on an entirely presumptuous idea that neither you nor I have no ability to prove. Congratulations. You win in that regard.

Additionally, I just find mentioning Ramiro Mendoza in every post funny. You think too much sometimes.

flyingelvii {l Wrote}:

bignick33 {l Wrote}:

flyingelvii {l Wrote}:Wrong thread. This is for discussions regarding Ramiro Mendoza, fantasy baseball and excessively sweaty baseball players, in varying order.

I believe that last point means the SoD has spread to Shea Field.

u mad bro?

Ah man. That was supposed to be a joke. Guess this is the problem when nobody thinks you're funny.

Though I will now listen to "Hey Ma". So there was some good to come from this.

twballgame9 {l Wrote}:

flyingelvii {l Wrote}:

twballgame9 {l Wrote}:

flyingelvii {l Wrote}:Ah, throwing out relevant data and information to fit a narrative. Just a great sign of a bang-up argument. Those years actually happened and are part of the reason he's appreciated in Boston. So I'm not sure why they aren't relevant other than the aformentioned narrative point.

I will continue to point out that your definition of contribution is extremely narrow and basically means only about 4 non-pitchers can provide a material contribution to the success of a team. Now go back and cry into your Ramiro Mendoza pillow.

Nothing better than when you run out of things to say and start criticizing others' arguing techniques. Laugh out loud funny. Almost as good as when you try to be insulting with some idiotic David Letterman-esque recurring theme, like "I'll get you real good, I'll pretend you like Ramiro Mendoza every time I have nothing to say."

Dance. No one forgot the PED years, pink hat.

Get back to me when your argument doesn't rely on an entirely presumptuous idea that neither you nor I have no ability to prove. Congratulations. You win in that regard.

Additionally, I just find mentioning Ramiro Mendoza in every post funny. You think too much sometimes.

It wasn't an argument. It was always an opinion, something you always forget when you have to correct every ones' opinion by questioning their definitions and throwing out the exception to the rule. Leading to people responding to your irrelevant facts with irrelevant facts.

Youk sucks and I couldn't wait for him to leave town, people are stupid for applauding him. Disprove - go!

twballgame9 {l Wrote}:

flyingelvii {l Wrote}:

bignick33 {l Wrote}:

flyingelvii {l Wrote}:Wrong thread. This is for discussions regarding Ramiro Mendoza, fantasy baseball and excessively sweaty baseball players, in varying order.

I believe that last point means the SoD has spread to Shea Field.

u mad bro?

Ah man. That was supposed to be a joke. Guess this is the problem when nobody thinks you're funny.

Though I will now listen to "Hey Ma". So there was some good to come from this.

I think you are funny.

flyingelvii {l Wrote}:

twballgame9 {l Wrote}:

flyingelvii {l Wrote}:

twballgame9 {l Wrote}:

flyingelvii {l Wrote}:Ah, throwing out relevant data and information to fit a narrative. Just a great sign of a bang-up argument. Those years actually happened and are part of the reason he's appreciated in Boston. So I'm not sure why they aren't relevant other than the aformentioned narrative point.

I will continue to point out that your definition of contribution is extremely narrow and basically means only about 4 non-pitchers can provide a material contribution to the success of a team. Now go back and cry into your Ramiro Mendoza pillow.

Nothing better than when you run out of things to say and start criticizing others' arguing techniques. Laugh out loud funny. Almost as good as when you try to be insulting with some idiotic David Letterman-esque recurring theme, like "I'll get you real good, I'll pretend you like Ramiro Mendoza every time I have nothing to say."

Dance. No one forgot the PED years, pink hat.

Get back to me when your argument doesn't rely on an entirely presumptuous idea that neither you nor I have no ability to prove. Congratulations. You win in that regard.

Additionally, I just find mentioning Ramiro Mendoza in every post funny. You think too much sometimes.

It wasn't an argument. It was always an opinion, something you always forget when you have to correct every ones' opinion by questioning their definitions and throwing out the exception to the rule. Leading to people responding to your irrelevant facts with irrelevant facts.

Youk sucks and I couldn't wait for him to leave town, people are stupid for applauding him. Disprove - go!

Okay so if you don't want other people to discuss your opinions and you are going take offense to it (for lack of a better term...trying to cover my bases here so you don't go off on another minor tangent), why do you post it on a message board, which is the purpose of about 95% of the activity here? I don't agree with your opinion. I presented why I didn't agree with your opinion. You present a counterargument. Welcome to message boardery. It's very serious business.

I eagerly anticipate you arguing the semantics of a word I used above like a Villanova guard crashing the boards.

flyingelvii {l Wrote}:I was just tailoring my response to my audience.

Endless Mike {l Wrote}:I just accepted this trade:

I get:
Chris Sale (I plan on keeping him at $1)
Lance Berkman

I give up:
Justin Upton
Tim Lincecum
David Wright


So now my keepers are looking like Giancarlo Stanton, Jacoby Ellsbury, Chris Sale, and one other (Lance Lynn, Starling Marte, or someone else). I'd go to war with that crew.

Endless Mike {l Wrote}:I just accepted this trade:

I get:
Chris Sale (I plan on keeping him at $1)
Lance Berkman

I give up:
Justin Upton
Tim Lincecum
David Wright


So now my keepers are looking like Giancarlo Stanton, Jacoby Ellsbury, Chris Sale, and one other (Lance Lynn, Starling Marte, or someone else). I'd go to war with that crew.