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Re: Cliff Lee to Philly?

PostPosted: Tue Dec 14, 2010 12:59 pm
by claver2010
TurdFerguson {l Wrote}:Santana, Niese, Pelfrey, Perez, Dickey... :gun :81 :81 :whiteflag :whiteflag :suicide :suicide :whiteflag :whiteflag :81 :81 :gun
:bag :bag :bag :bag :bag :bag :bag :bag :bag :bag :bag :bag :bag :bag :bag :bag :bag :bag :bag :bag :bag :bag


What about the fact that Santana will be out till at least June. But don't worry, we got Boof Bosner! :suicide

Re: Cliff Lee to Philly?

PostPosted: Tue Dec 14, 2010 1:12 pm
by bignick33
claver2010 {l Wrote}:
TurdFerguson {l Wrote}:Santana, Niese, Pelfrey, Perez, Dickey... :gun :81 :81 :whiteflag :whiteflag :suicide :suicide :whiteflag :whiteflag :81 :81 :gun
:bag :bag :bag :bag :bag :bag :bag :bag :bag :bag :bag :bag :bag :bag :bag :bag :bag :bag :bag :bag :bag :bag


What about the fact that Santana will be out till at least June. But don't worry, we got Boof Bosner! :suicide


Haha, that bum was on the Sox for a week or two. He got shelled once or twice so we shipped him out of town.

Re: Cliff Lee to Philly?

PostPosted: Tue Dec 14, 2010 1:24 pm
by PhillyandBCEagles
Interesting conspiracy theory on another board I read--the Sox offered to take Blanton off the Phils' hands if we could get a deal done with Lee (and keep him away from NY).

Blanton would be an outstanding #5 starter, but not at his salary. Kendrick, for all the shit he gets, is also a very good #5 (and if Vance Worley beats him out, all the better).

Re: Cliff Lee to Philly?

PostPosted: Tue Dec 14, 2010 1:27 pm
by BearTerritory
Blanton is a less expensive Dice K. Throws a lot of innings, rarely hurt.

Re: Cliff Lee to Philly?

PostPosted: Tue Dec 14, 2010 1:28 pm
by twballgame9
eagle9903 {l Wrote}:
twballgame9 {l Wrote}:
ryrob {l Wrote}:
twballgame9 {l Wrote}:
branchinator {l Wrote}:Halladay
Lee
Hamels
Oswalt

That's a killer rotation. Thanks for playing, NL.


Yeah, that's pretty stupid good. Last 50 years is retarded, but it is certainly the best in the last few years.


Only competition is Braves rotation circa Glavine, Smoltz, Maddux, Neagle? Can you name anything else close to this?


Other than the fact that a lights out Kevin Millwood was also in that 98 Braves staff, your analysis of the Phillies would be right on if it were Oswalt of 5 years ago and Hamels were better than you think he is.

And yes, going back to 1960, I can come up with quite a few. Start with a staff that had Drysdale and Koufax and Osteen and Sutton, or the Orioles staff that had 4 20 game winners - Palmer, Dobson, McNally and Cuellar. Gooden, Fernandez, Aguilera, Ojeda and Darling. There are a few other Dodgers staffs and you could add the staff with Avery, Smoltz, Glavine, Maddux (circa 93). The As had three, with Mulder, Zito and Hudson in their primes, Stewart, Welch, Moore and Vida Blue, Catfish Hunter and Ken Holtzman.

I am sure I could come up with a few more.


Fans of AL East teams are strikingly similar to SEC fans.


There is only one AL East team on that list, and it is the 1971 Orioles ferchrissakes.

Re: Cliff Lee to Philly?

PostPosted: Tue Dec 14, 2010 1:39 pm
by twballgame9
eagle9903 {l Wrote}:So yeah, I was arguing with a friend from BC who was stubbornly saying how lester, buccholz, beckett, and lackey was still better, on paper, than Halladay, Lee, Hamels, Oswalt. I kind of conflated his stupid argument into this thread. Apologies to all.


The Sox rotation is not likely to measure up at all, but it could. I don't think Lackey or Becket will pull their weight, but it is certainly arguable that Buchholz and Lester were comparable to Lee and Hallifay last season. If the Sox rotation all have excellent seasons, they will be comparable.

All of this assumes that Hamels pitches very well and that Oswalt's arm doesn't fall off.

Re: Cliff Lee to Philly?

PostPosted: Tue Dec 14, 2010 1:44 pm
by cvilleagle
BearTerritory {l Wrote}:Blanton is a less expensive Dice K. Throws a lot of innings, rarely hurt.

Maybe that Dice K for Beltran trade is really happening! Screw it - start 4 outfielders.

Re: Cliff Lee to Philly?

PostPosted: Tue Dec 14, 2010 1:54 pm
by ryrob
BearTerritory {l Wrote}:Blanton is a less expensive Dice K. Throws a lot of innings, rarely hurt, always fat.


Fixed

Re: Cliff Lee to Philly?

PostPosted: Tue Dec 14, 2010 1:54 pm
by shockdoct
BearTerritory {l Wrote}:Blanton is a less expensive Dice K. Throws a lot of innings, rarely hurt.


Questionable AL numbers. His old pitching coach from Oakland is in Boston though.

Re: Cliff Lee to Philly?

PostPosted: Tue Dec 14, 2010 1:56 pm
by flyingelvii
I was hoping Blanto would come to Boston for JD Drew.

Re: Cliff Lee to Philly?

PostPosted: Tue Dec 14, 2010 2:53 pm
by TurdFerguson
claver2010 {l Wrote}:
TurdFerguson {l Wrote}:Santana, Niese, Pelfrey, Perez, Dickey... :gun :81 :81 :whiteflag :whiteflag :suicide :suicide :whiteflag :whiteflag :81 :81 :gun
:bag :bag :bag :bag :bag :bag :bag :bag :bag :bag :bag :bag :bag :bag :bag :bag :bag :bag :bag :bag :bag :bag


What about the fact that Santana will be out till at least June. But don't worry, we got Boof Bosner! :suicide



Only 9 months until football season restarts...

Re: Cliff Lee to Philly?

PostPosted: Tue Dec 14, 2010 3:40 pm
by Cadillac90
The Yankees are hurting after this one. I bet they try to trade for Carlos Zambrano.

Re: Cliff Lee to Philly?

PostPosted: Tue Dec 14, 2010 4:18 pm
by Endless Mike
Cadillac90 {l Wrote}:The Yankees are hurting after this one. I bet they try to trade for Carlos Zambrano.


That would be funny. :titanic

Re: Cliff Lee to Philly?

PostPosted: Fri Dec 17, 2010 3:33 pm
by eepstein0
Cadillac90 {l Wrote}:The Yankees are hurting after this one. I bet they try to trade for Carlos Zambrano.


Zambrano in New York? Jesus that would be fantastic. Inevitably he'll :gun

Re: Cliff Lee to Philly?

PostPosted: Fri Dec 17, 2010 3:36 pm
by bignick33
eepstein0 {l Wrote}:
Cadillac90 {l Wrote}:The Yankees are hurting after this one. I bet they try to trade for Carlos Zambrano.


Zambrano in New York? Jesus that would be fantastic. Inevitably he'll :gun


The Red Sox have already already countered a possible signing of Zambrano by signing Bobby Jenks:

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Re: Cliff Lee to Philly?

PostPosted: Fri Dec 17, 2010 3:50 pm
by flyingelvii
Nitpicking but Zambrano's under contract for two more years for about $18 million per year. He has a vesting option for 2013 but it's highly unlikely that he'll finish anywhere in the Cy Young voting.

Re: Cliff Lee to Philly?

PostPosted: Tue Dec 28, 2010 6:46 am
by eepstein0
flyingelvii {l Wrote}:Nitpicking but Zambrano's under contract for two more years for about $18 million per year. He has a vesting option for 2013 but it's highly unlikely that he'll finish anywhere in the Cy Young voting.


Certainly not in the AL East.

Re: Cliff Lee to Philly?

PostPosted: Mon Jul 30, 2012 3:07 pm
by bignick33
Apparently the Phillies might trade Lee back to Texas?

Re: Cliff Lee to Philly?

PostPosted: Mon Jul 30, 2012 3:54 pm
by eagle9903
apparently. apparently also trading pence, victorino, blanton, pierre and wigginton.

I'm OK with all of this, Lee is the one I want to trade the least but probably has the most value.

Re: Cliff Lee to Philly?

PostPosted: Mon Jul 30, 2012 3:56 pm
by eagle9903
also happy birthday dimbi.

Re: Cliff Lee to Philly?

PostPosted: Mon Jul 30, 2012 3:59 pm
by claver2010
bignick33 {l Wrote}:Apparently the Phillies might trade Lee back to Texas?


It's the new Yankees Red Sox

Houston might win 40 games next year

Re: Cliff Lee to Philly?

PostPosted: Tue Jul 31, 2012 8:13 am
by bignick33
eagle9903 {l Wrote}:also happy birthday dimbi.


Thanks former philly intern. Now I won't need to think of creative things to do to everyone's boss.

Re: Cliff Lee to Philly?

PostPosted: Tue Jul 31, 2012 9:06 am
by claver2010
Victorino to LA apparently has some legs.

Re: Cliff Lee to Philly?

PostPosted: Tue Jul 31, 2012 10:08 am
by eagle9903
claver2010 {l Wrote}:Victorino to LA apparently has some legs.


yeah, I read Josh Lindblom and another player.

Re: Cliff Lee to Philly?

PostPosted: Tue Jul 31, 2012 11:24 am
by claver2010
Victorino to LA CONFIRMED

Pence to SF CONFIRMED

Re: Cliff Lee to Philly?

PostPosted: Tue Jul 31, 2012 11:53 am
by DavidGordonsFoot
claver2010 {l Wrote}:Victorino to LA CONFIRMED


Allow me to be the first to say "aloha" to the first-class bitch-ass.