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Re: Red Sox Weirdos
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Thu Jul 31, 2014 11:46 amby flyingelvii
twballgame9 {l Wrote}:I also think this trade and willingness to chance losing Lester (or more so the lack of a legit offer in the first place) says a lot about what the Sox think of their farm. Tons of potential front line starters (De La Rosa, Webster, Owens, Renaudo, Escobar, Barnes), decent infielders (Cecchini, Marrerro), catchers (Vasquez and Swihart) and light-hitting OFs (Bradley, Betts), but other than Bogaerts, there isn't a power hitting OF or corner IF in the entire system. Given what is available, trading for a major league ready power hitter was almost a necessity.
They have Shaw at 1B in Pawtucket who has some power but he has a more pronounced platoon split. FWIW Cecchini does nothing for me. His ISO in AAA is less than .100, his K% is extremely high and he has forgotten how to draw a walk. Robs my the furthest faller of the Sox top prospects this year, though Barnes is giving him a run for his money.
Re: Red Sox Weirdos
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Thu Jul 31, 2014 11:47 amby flyingelvii
Endless Mike {l Wrote}:Edes is reporting the Cardinals are close to a deal for Lackey.
I'll be shocked if Lackey actually plays for $500k next year.
Joe Kelly and Allen Craig. Meh.
Re: Red Sox Weirdos
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Thu Jul 31, 2014 11:48 amby Endless Mike
Endless Mike {l Wrote}:Edes is reporting the Cardinals are close to a deal for Lackey.
Supposedly an outfielder and a starting pitcher.
They would be crazy to give up Taveras.
Re: Red Sox Weirdos
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Thu Jul 31, 2014 11:49 amby Endless Mike
Sounds like Joe Kelly and Allen Craig.
Re: Red Sox Weirdos
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Thu Jul 31, 2014 11:55 amby Endless Mike
Endless Mike {l Wrote}:Sounds like Joe Kelly and Allen Craig.
Confirmed by MLB Network.
Craig is having an awful season but I think that was a good buy low move. They definitely upgraded their OF for next season.
I'm not really excited about Joe Kelly, but they need warm bodies in the rotation.
Re: Red Sox Weirdos
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Thu Jul 31, 2014 11:58 amby twballgame9
I can't believe I am going to have to root for Craig, who I crapped on incessantly to piss off Hansen
Re: Red Sox Weirdos
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Thu Jul 31, 2014 12:00 pmby claver2010
My fantasy team wants to know the fuck happened to Craig this year
Re: Red Sox Weirdos
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Thu Jul 31, 2014 12:02 pmby twballgame9
claver2010 {l Wrote}:My fantasy team wants to know the fuck happened to Craig this year
He's not very good, that's what happened. Have to figure the Sox wanted Kelly here, because Craig doesn't have a position with them next season.
Re: Red Sox Weirdos
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Thu Jul 31, 2014 12:02 pmby Endless Mike
claver2010 {l Wrote}:My fantasy team wants to know the fuck happened to Craig this year
Same here.
Re: Red Sox Weirdos
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Thu Jul 31, 2014 12:03 pmby flyingelvii
Endless Mike {l Wrote}:claver2010 {l Wrote}:My fantasy team wants to know the fuck happened to Craig this year
Same here.
I too would like to join this pity party.
Re: Red Sox Weirdos
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Thu Jul 31, 2014 12:04 pmby Endless Mike
flyingelvii {l Wrote}:Endless Mike {l Wrote}:claver2010 {l Wrote}:My fantasy team wants to know the fuck happened to Craig this year
Same here.
I too would like to join this pity party.
All aboard the WTF happened to Allen Craig train!
Re: Red Sox Weirdos
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Thu Jul 31, 2014 12:07 pmby flyingelvii
Looks like he's been hitting a lot more ground balls, fewer line drives and, given his speed, that's translating to a lot less hits and a lower BABIP. So basically he's making weaker contact on the ball for some reason I don't feel like looking into.
Re: Red Sox Weirdos
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Thu Jul 31, 2014 12:09 pmby Endless Mike
It'll be interesting to see what tonight's lineup looks like.
EDIT: Oops, no game tonight.
Re: Red Sox Weirdos
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Thu Jul 31, 2014 12:12 pmby twballgame9
Endless Mike {l Wrote}:It'll be interesting to see what tonight's lineup looks like.
Umm, what? They traded two pitchers. It'll look like it did last night.
Re: Red Sox Weirdos
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Thu Jul 31, 2014 12:14 pmby twballgame9
It's going to be crazy:
Holt LF
Victorino RF
Pedroia 2B
Ortiz DH
Napoli 1B
Bogaerts 3B
Drew SS
Vasquez C
Bradley CF
Re: Red Sox Weirdos
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Thu Jul 31, 2014 12:17 pmby Endless Mike
twballgame9 {l Wrote}:Endless Mike {l Wrote}:It'll be interesting to see what tonight's lineup looks like.
Umm, what? They traded two pitchers. It'll look like it did last night.
I don't think they're done yet, they could still trade Miller. I'm just curious to see Cespedes in there, and what they do with Craig.
Re: Red Sox Weirdos
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Thu Jul 31, 2014 12:21 pmby twballgame9
Endless Mike {l Wrote}:twballgame9 {l Wrote}:Endless Mike {l Wrote}:It'll be interesting to see what tonight's lineup looks like.
Umm, what? They traded two pitchers. It'll look like it did last night.
I don't think they're done yet, they could still trade Miller. I'm just curious to see Cespedes in there, and what they do with Craig.
Trading Miller - also won't effect the lineup. He pitches.
Red Sox don't play today, but if they did, Cespedes and Craig probably wouldn't be in it.
Re: Red Sox Weirdos
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Thu Jul 31, 2014 12:28 pmby twballgame9
Sounding like Miller to the Tigers. This one must be prospects.
Re: Red Sox Weirdos
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Thu Jul 31, 2014 12:33 pmby DavidGordonsFoot
pick6pedro {l Wrote}:The O's will go the typical route and get a decent #4 through waivers and overpay for emilio bonifacio and I probably won't be happy about it.
CBS has a story that the O's contacted the Mets about Colon. Mets are supposedly reluctant to trade him.
Re: Red Sox Weirdos
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Thu Jul 31, 2014 12:45 pmby pick6pedro
DavidGordonsFoot {l Wrote}:pick6pedro {l Wrote}:The O's will go the typical route and get a decent #4 through waivers and overpay for emilio bonifacio and I probably won't be happy about it.
CBS has a story that the O's contacted the Mets about Colon. Mets are supposedly reluctant to trade him.
good. the latter part, not the former.
Re: Red Sox Weirdos
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Thu Jul 31, 2014 2:05 pmby twballgame9
Now hearing Miller to Os for Pedro
Re: Red Sox Weirdos
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Thu Jul 31, 2014 2:12 pmby twballgame9
Eduardo Rodriguez for Miller.
Re: Red Sox Weirdos
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Thu Jul 31, 2014 2:40 pmby gallopingghost
twballgame9 {l Wrote}:I also think this trade and willingness to chance losing Lester (or more so the lack of a legit offer in the first place) says a lot about what the Sox think of their farm. Tons of potential front line starters (De La Rosa, Webster, Owens, Renaudo, Escobar, Barnes), decent infielders (Cecchini, Marrerro), catchers (Vasquez and Swihart) and light-hitting OFs (Bradley, Betts), but other than Bogaerts, there isn't a power hitting OF or corner IF in the entire system. Given what is available, trading for a major league ready power hitter was almost a necessity.
Owens is 14-4, 2.44 ERA at Portland. He needs to start moving up. The next Randy Johnson. He is 22, Lester is 30.
Re: Red Sox Weirdos
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Thu Jul 31, 2014 3:09 pmby twballgame9
gallopingghost {l Wrote}:twballgame9 {l Wrote}:I also think this trade and willingness to chance losing Lester (or more so the lack of a legit offer in the first place) says a lot about what the Sox think of their farm. Tons of potential front line starters (De La Rosa, Webster, Owens, Renaudo, Escobar, Barnes), decent infielders (Cecchini, Marrerro), catchers (Vasquez and Swihart) and light-hitting OFs (Bradley, Betts), but other than Bogaerts, there isn't a power hitting OF or corner IF in the entire system. Given what is available, trading for a major league ready power hitter was almost a necessity.
Owens is 14-4, 2.44 ERA at Portland. He needs to start moving up. The next Randy Johnson. He is 22, Lester is 30.
Check out Renaudo's record at Pawtucket. 12-4, 2.41. Add that to what Rubby has done with the big club, and there's three likely rotation cogs for quite a few years. And that doesn't count Webster, who some think has the best stuff of the bunch, or the new guys from the Peavy (Escobar) and Miller trades.
Re: Red Sox Weirdos
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Thu Jul 31, 2014 3:16 pmby twballgame9
THANK GOD. DREW TO THE YANKEES.
Re: Red Sox Weirdos
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Thu Jul 31, 2014 3:28 pmby gallopingghost
twballgame9 {l Wrote}:gallopingghost {l Wrote}:twballgame9 {l Wrote}:I also think this trade and willingness to chance losing Lester (or more so the lack of a legit offer in the first place) says a lot about what the Sox think of their farm. Tons of potential front line starters (De La Rosa, Webster, Owens, Renaudo, Escobar, Barnes), decent infielders (Cecchini, Marrerro), catchers (Vasquez and Swihart) and light-hitting OFs (Bradley, Betts), but other than Bogaerts, there isn't a power hitting OF or corner IF in the entire system. Given what is available, trading for a major league ready power hitter was almost a necessity.
Owens is 14-4, 2.44 ERA at Portland. He needs to start moving up. The next Randy Johnson. He is 22, Lester is 30.
Check out Renaudo's record at Pawtucket. 12-4, 2.41. Add that to what Rubby has done with the big club, and there's three likely rotation cogs for quite a few years. And that doesn't count Webster, who some think has the best stuff of the bunch, or the new guys from the Peavy (Escobar) and Miller trades.
The Blue Jays hammered Ruby the other night.
Re: Red Sox Weirdos
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Thu Jul 31, 2014 3:38 pmby DavidGordonsFoot
twballgame9 {l Wrote}:THANK GOD. DREW TO THE YANKEES.
Of all the dramatic things I've ever seen! Stephen Drew standing in Hal Steinbrenner's box announcing he is a New York Yankee!
Re: Red Sox Weirdos
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Thu Jul 31, 2014 3:39 pmby twballgame9
gallopingghost {l Wrote}:twballgame9 {l Wrote}:gallopingghost {l Wrote}:twballgame9 {l Wrote}:I also think this trade and willingness to chance losing Lester (or more so the lack of a legit offer in the first place) says a lot about what the Sox think of their farm. Tons of potential front line starters (De La Rosa, Webster, Owens, Renaudo, Escobar, Barnes), decent infielders (Cecchini, Marrerro), catchers (Vasquez and Swihart) and light-hitting OFs (Bradley, Betts), but other than Bogaerts, there isn't a power hitting OF or corner IF in the entire system. Given what is available, trading for a major league ready power hitter was almost a necessity.
Owens is 14-4, 2.44 ERA at Portland. He needs to start moving up. The next Randy Johnson. He is 22, Lester is 30.
Check out Renaudo's record at Pawtucket. 12-4, 2.41. Add that to what Rubby has done with the big club, and there's three likely rotation cogs for quite a few years. And that doesn't count Webster, who some think has the best stuff of the bunch, or the new guys from the Peavy (Escobar) and Miller trades.
The Blue Jays hammered Ruby the other night.
That was two starts ago in TOR He went 6 and 3 ER (quality start) two nights ago against TOR. Regardless, he has a 3.64 era, with one bad start. He's twice gone 7 shutout innings, and this ain't Portland.
Re: Red Sox Weirdos
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Thu Jul 31, 2014 4:11 pmby flyingelvii
gallopingghost {l Wrote}:twballgame9 {l Wrote}:I also think this trade and willingness to chance losing Lester (or more so the lack of a legit offer in the first place) says a lot about what the Sox think of their farm. Tons of potential front line starters (De La Rosa, Webster, Owens, Renaudo, Escobar, Barnes), decent infielders (Cecchini, Marrerro), catchers (Vasquez and Swihart) and light-hitting OFs (Bradley, Betts), but other than Bogaerts, there isn't a power hitting OF or corner IF in the entire system. Given what is available, trading for a major league ready power hitter was almost a necessity.
Owens is 14-4, 2.44 ERA at Portland. He needs to start moving up. The next Randy Johnson. He is 22, Lester is 30.
Owens needs to move up but his weak fastball and decent but unspectacular control are giving me Michael Bowden 2.0 visions.
Re: Red Sox Weirdos
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Thu Jul 31, 2014 4:12 pmby flyingelvii
flyingelvii {l Wrote}:gallopingghost {l Wrote}:twballgame9 {l Wrote}:I also think this trade and willingness to chance losing Lester (or more so the lack of a legit offer in the first place) says a lot about what the Sox think of their farm. Tons of potential front line starters (De La Rosa, Webster, Owens, Renaudo, Escobar, Barnes), decent infielders (Cecchini, Marrerro), catchers (Vasquez and Swihart) and light-hitting OFs (Bradley, Betts), but other than Bogaerts, there isn't a power hitting OF or corner IF in the entire system. Given what is available, trading for a major league ready power hitter was almost a necessity.
Owens is 14-4, 2.44 ERA at Portland. He needs to start moving up. The next Randy Johnson. He is 22, Lester is 30.
Owens needs to move up to AAAbut his weak fastball and decent but unspectacular control are giving me Michael Bowden 2.0 visions.