Red Sox Weirdos

[flyingelvii]

Well there is a stat but I don't see how somebody who pitches a max of like 60 innings, most of which is condensed in one inning per game, a year has the potential to swing a team from mid-90s wins to the high 80s.

[twballgame9]

Well there is a stat but I don't see how somebody who pitches a max of like 60 innings, most of which is condensed in one inning per game, a year has the potential to swing a team from mid-90s wins to the high 80s.

well the Red sox bullpen is 0 for 1 in 1 game. That's a shitty percentage.

[flyingelvii]

Well there is a stat but I don't see how somebody who pitches a max of like 60 innings, most of which is condensed in one inning per game, a year has the potential to swing a team from mid-90s wins to the high 80s.

well the Red sox bullpen is 0 for 1 in 1 game. That's a shitty percentage.

And Andrew Bailey's injury did not have an impact on the game. Melancon probably would've gotten the call regardless.

Edit: The only good that could come from this is a fire Bobby V movement so he has more time to build decks and make wraps and alert Stamford, CT residents of snow emergencies.

[twballgame9]

Well there is a stat but I don't see how somebody who pitches a max of like 60 innings, most of which is condensed in one inning per game, a year has the potential to swing a team from mid-90s wins to the high 80s.

well the Red sox bullpen is 0 for 1 in 1 game. That's a shitty percentage.

And Andrew Bailey's injury did not have an impact on the game. Melancon probably would've gotten the call regardless.

Keep telling yourself that. Terry Francona puts Papelbon in there.

[claver2010]

Well there is a stat but I don't see how somebody who pitches a max of like 60 innings, most of which is condensed in one inning per game, a year has the potential to swing a team from mid-90s wins to the high 80s.

well the Red sox bullpen is 0 for 1 in 1 game. That's a shitty percentage.

And Andrew Bailey's injury did not have an impact on the game. Melancon probably would've gotten the call regardless.

Edit: The only good that could come from this is a fire Bobby V movement so he has more time to build decks and make wraps and alert Stamford, CT residents of snow emergencies.

I was at the BC gamewatch with other nexus members at Bobby V's establishment, the clientele was as interesting as Bobby V

[flyingelvii]

Well there is a stat but I don't see how somebody who pitches a max of like 60 innings, most of which is condensed in one inning per game, a year has the potential to swing a team from mid-90s wins to the high 80s.

well the Red sox bullpen is 0 for 1 in 1 game. That's a shitty percentage.

And Andrew Bailey's injury did not have an impact on the game. Melancon probably would've gotten the call regardless.

Keep telling yourself that. Terry Francona puts Papelbon in there.

And therein lies your first fallacy.

[twballgame9]

Well there is a stat but I don't see how somebody who pitches a max of like 60 innings, most of which is condensed in one inning per game, a year has the potential to swing a team from mid-90s wins to the high 80s.

well the Red sox bullpen is 0 for 1 in 1 game. That's a shitty percentage.

And Andrew Bailey's injury did not have an impact on the game. Melancon probably would've gotten the call regardless.

Keep telling yourself that. Terry Francona puts Papelbon in there.

And therein lies your first fallacy.

Terry Francona was an idiot. This team just has a crappy bullpen that will easily cost them 10+ games. Don't really care to argue VORP.

[flyingelvii]

It's WAR, actually.

[twballgame9]

It's WAR, actually.

Nah, it's not war, I don't care enough to fight.

[flyingelvii]

No. Wins Above Replacement. WAR. Not Value Over Replacement Player either.

[EagleNYC]

No. Wins Above Replacement. WAR. Not Value Over Replacement Player either.

[flyingelvii]

I'm not arguing, just clarifying.

[twballgame9]

I'm not arguing, just clarifying.

No one cares, save your breath.

[flyingelvii]

I'm not arguing, just clarifying.

No one cares, save your breath.

Whatever you say champ. You obviously seem to have some vested interest, so this little flirting game is cute in a sense.

[twballgame9]

I'm not arguing, just clarifying.

No one cares, save your breath.

Whatever you say champ. You obviously seem to have some vested interest, so this little flirting game is cute in a sense.

Something about war or something.

[flyingelvii]

Fuck it, I'm bored, I already ruined the Bruins Weirdos thread so might as well do it with the Red Sox Weirdos one.

Why is gaining an understanding of advanced metrics stupid? I have never heard you say something to the contrary, just that you don't like them. Seeing as how you are a lawyer, I am curious if you are willing to let that stand. Usually if you want to form a decent counterargument you have to gain an understanding of what you are going against and you have basically resorted to the old sportswriter "Mom's Basement" argument, which falls flat on numerous legs, especially the most basic one of they have no idea what they are talking about when deriding these measures. I figure this bores you so I won't be surprised if you take your backpack and put it over one of your shoulder and go home to sit on your backward facing chair but, hell, at least humor me.

[DavidGordonsFoot]

I figure this bores you so I won't be surprised if you take your backpack and put it over one of your shoulder and go home to sit on your backward facing chair but, hell, at least humor me.

uh, WTF?

[twballgame9]

Fuck it, I'm bored, I already ruined the Bruins Weirdos thread so might as well do it with the Red Sox Weirdos one.

Why is gaining an understanding of advanced metrics stupid? I have never heard you say something to the contrary, just that you don't like them. Seeing as how you are a lawyer, I am curious if you are willing to let that stand. Usually if you want to form a decent counterargument you have to gain an understanding of what you are going against and you have basically resorted to the old sportswriter "Mom's Basement" argument, which falls flat on numerous legs, especially the most basic one of they have no idea what they are talking about when deriding these measures. I figure this bores you so I won't be surprised if you take your backpack and put it over one of your shoulder and go home to sit on your backward facing chair but, hell, at least humor me.

No, too busy humoring me. I have no problem with stats. I find correction of my knee jerk reaction to the shitty bullpen with predictable nerdness boring. But amusing nonetheless.

Frankly, I get the whole moneyball thing, and I get why it sort of works. It has ruined the game of baseball. Games take 5 hours and are unwatchable. And people that talk about WAR and VORP all the time are tiresome.

[Endless Mike]

I'm glad this weirdos thread is finally getting weird. Took you guys long enough.

[flyingelvii]

I figure this bores you so I won't be surprised if you take your backpack and put it over one of your shoulder and go home to sit on your backward facing chair but, hell, at least humor me.

uh, WTF?

It's not cool to wear your backpack with both straps on your shoulders.

[bignick33]

Tito just compared Nate Jones' (rookie White Sox reliever) stuff to that of Henry Rowengartner.

[claver2010]

#NEXTREDSOXCLOSER was a funny follow last night

[Endless Mike]

Didn't Padilla briefly close for an NL team? I'm drawing a blank.

Now I remember. He saved 3 games as part of the Dodgers' committee when Broxton lost the job.

Was this a self fag-tag?

Not sure. I wanted to get the answer as soon as possible so if anyone else answered I could ask them to kindly check the timestamp.

What's a fag-tag?

If you have to ask what a fag-tag is, you can't afford it.

[bignick33]

[eagle9903]

did ellsbury just separate his shoulder?

[bignick33]

did ellsbury just separate his shoulder?

My friend just flipped out because Ellsbury is on his fantasy team. I think Crawford will be back very soon, but this is still tough news for the Sox. And, it's tough news for Ellsbury, because this is his contract year (and he's coming off one of the best years any leadoff hitter has had in recent history).

[claver2010]

did ellsbury just separate his shoulder?

My friend just flipped out because Ellsbury is on his fantasy team. I think Crawford will be back very soon, but this is still tough news for the Sox. And, it's tough news for Ellsbury, because this is his contract year (and he's coming off one of the best years any leadoff hitter has had in recent history).

You want to post his roster?

[DavidGordonsFoot]

why do i get the sense that this injury with ellbury will be the last straw for the red sox weirdos? he'll carry that "soft" label around as long as he's on this team.

[pick6pedro]

why do i get the sense that this injury with ellbury will be the last straw for the red sox weirdos? he'll carry that "soft" label around as long as he's on this team.

It's not a label when it's TROOF.

[Endless Mike]

did ellsbury just separate his shoulder?

My friend just flipped out because Ellsbury is on his fantasy team. I think Crawford will be back very soon, but this is still tough news for the Sox. And, it's tough news for Ellsbury, because this is his contract year (and he's coming off one of the best years any leadoff hitter has had in recent history).

You want to post his roster?

I have Ellsbury and Crawford on my fantasy team.

I posted my roster on the ghey beisbol pr0n thread.