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Re: Everything about Soccer Sucks

Postby DavidGordonsFoot on Wed Jul 02, 2014 10:07 am

TobaccoRoadEagle wrote:see you fuTb0l w3ird0z in 4 years

Now that this is over, can we start 10-2 season?
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Re: Everything about Soccer Sucks

Postby b0mberMan on Wed Jul 02, 2014 10:16 am

DavidGordonsFoot wrote:
TobaccoRoadEagle wrote:see you fuTb0l w3ird0z in 4 years

Now that this is over, can we start 10-2 season?

The next 3.5 years are 1-1-1 season.
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Re: Everything about Soccer Sucks

Postby TobaccoRoadEagle on Wed Jul 02, 2014 10:21 am

DavidGordonsFoot wrote:
TobaccoRoadEagle wrote:see you fuTb0l w3ird0z in 4 years

Now that this is over, can we start 10-2 season?

i think it's still shirtless boy season for another 6 weeks. 10-2 season usually doesn't start until mid august
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Re: Everything about Soccer Sucks

Postby twballgame9 on Wed Jul 02, 2014 10:29 am

TobaccoRoadEagle wrote:
DavidGordonsFoot wrote:
TobaccoRoadEagle wrote:see you fuTb0l w3ird0z in 4 years

Now that this is over, can we start 10-2 season?

i think it's still shirtless boy season for another 6 weeks. 10-2 season usually doesn't start until mid august


When does 6-7 season start?
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Re: Everything about Soccer Sucks

Postby TobaccoRoadEagle on Wed Jul 02, 2014 10:32 am

twballgame9 wrote:
TobaccoRoadEagle wrote:
DavidGordonsFoot wrote:
TobaccoRoadEagle wrote:see you fuTb0l w3ird0z in 4 years

Now that this is over, can we start 10-2 season?

i think it's still shirtless boy season for another 6 weeks. 10-2 season usually doesn't start until mid august


When does 6-7 season start?

either halftime of the first game or halftime of the first acc game. depends on whether the "bc season 1" daz shows up or the "temple season 2" daz shows up
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Re: Everything about Soccer Sucks

Postby DavidGordonsFoot on Wed Jul 02, 2014 10:38 am

TobaccoRoadEagle wrote:
twballgame9 wrote:
TobaccoRoadEagle wrote:
DavidGordonsFoot wrote:
TobaccoRoadEagle wrote:see you fuTb0l w3ird0z in 4 years

Now that this is over, can we start 10-2 season?

i think it's still shirtless boy season for another 6 weeks. 10-2 season usually doesn't start until mid august


When does 6-7 season start?

either halftime of the first game or halftime of the first acc game. depends on whether the "bc season 1" daz shows up or the "temple season 2" daz shows up

For reference, read the 2013 Villanova game thread. #BeADud
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Re: Everything about Soccer Sucks

Postby angrychicken on Wed Jul 02, 2014 11:05 am

DavidGordonsFoot wrote:
TobaccoRoadEagle wrote:see you fuTb0l w3ird0z in 4 years

Now that this is over, can we start 10-2 season?

You can start it whenever you want, gor-DON.
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Re: Everything about Soccer Sucks

Postby HustlinOwl on Sun Jul 06, 2014 5:32 pm

angrychicken wrote:
DavidGordonsFoot wrote:
TobaccoRoadEagle wrote:see you fuTb0l w3ird0z in 4 years

Now that this is over, can we start 10-2 season?

You can start it whenever you want, gor-DON.


Please don't ruin this awful thread with something that might be funny and/or important.
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Re: Everything about Soccer Sucks

Postby angrychicken on Mon Jul 07, 2014 7:50 am

Soccer is without a doubt the worst sport to watch. Now that 'Murica is out, soccer can crawl back in its hole for another 4 years. I feel bad for the guys who have to carry off the 'mos who act like they've been shot, only to watch them run back on the field a minute later like they're Willis Reed, or whoever that NY Knick guy was. I'm not sure if I hate soccer, but I know I hate the players.
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Re: Everything about Soccer Sucks

Postby DuchesneEast on Mon Jul 07, 2014 8:49 am

From what I watch, soccer can be decent when it is aggressive and teams are trying to score. Think of Portugal early against the US or the end of a game where a team is down 1-0 and needs to take chances. outside of that, it is awful. The knockout round and playing for a shootout is awful.

I have seen 2 Championships decided by shootouts. That is a joke. Imagine the Stanley Cup game 7 decided on a shoot out. Play sudden death and get it over with.
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Re: Everything about Soccer Sucks

Postby TobaccoRoadEagle on Mon Jul 07, 2014 10:02 am

DuchesneEast wrote:... sudden death ...

in soccer they call it "golden goal." i assume they do that because it sounds WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAYYY gayer
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Re: Everything about Soccer Sucks

Postby eagle216 on Mon Jul 07, 2014 10:09 am

DuchesneEast wrote:From what I watch, soccer can be decent when it is aggressive and teams are trying to score. Think of Portugal early against the US or the end of a game where a team is down 1-0 and needs to take chances. outside of that, it is awful. The knockout round and playing for a shootout is awful.

I have seen 2 Championships decided by shootouts. That is a joke. Imagine the Stanley Cup game 7 decided on a shoot out. Play sudden death and get it over with.


Extra time should be sudden death, like they used to do it (google "golden goal"). The worst will be if in the WC Final, both teams score in extra time, forcing a shootout.

That being said, there is simply no other solution other than to get to PKs at some point in a knockout format. Making it sudden death all the way like the NHL will lead to a game going on more or less forever at some point. While the wow factor of this may be cool to certain fans, once must realize that these players really owe their loyalty to their club teams, as this is where the real money is made. Having players play 6 hour games is not going to go over to well in this regard.

The popularity of the sport worldwide can not be overstated. The WC Final will dwarf the SB in ratings, for instance. Hard to argue against what they are doing.
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Re: Everything about Soccer Sucks

Postby DuchesneEast on Mon Jul 07, 2014 10:21 am

eagle216 wrote:
DuchesneEast wrote:From what I watch, soccer can be decent when it is aggressive and teams are trying to score. Think of Portugal early against the US or the end of a game where a team is down 1-0 and needs to take chances. outside of that, it is awful. The knockout round and playing for a shootout is awful.

I have seen 2 Championships decided by shootouts. That is a joke. Imagine the Stanley Cup game 7 decided on a shoot out. Play sudden death and get it over with.


Extra time should be sudden death, like they used to do it (google "golden goal"). The worst will be if in the WC Final, both teams score in extra time, forcing a shootout.

That being said, there is simply no other solution other than to get to PKs at some point in a knockout format. Making it sudden death all the way like the NHL will lead to a game going on more or less forever at some point. While the wow factor of this may be cool to certain fans, once must realize that these players really owe their loyalty to their club teams, as this is where the real money is made. Having players play 6 hour games is not going to go over to well in this regard.

The popularity of the sport worldwide can not be overstated. The WC Final will dwarf the SB in ratings, for instance. Hard to argue against what they are doing.


Worldwide it may get better ratings, but not even close in the US, which is where most of the money is. Why not take a player off each team every 15m until it gets down to 7 on 7.
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Re: Everything about Soccer Sucks

Postby twballgame9 on Mon Jul 07, 2014 10:26 am

To further DE's point, the Olympics and WC get twice to three times as many viewers (when you ignore FIFA's idiotic numbers and take independent sources) and half as much money.
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Re: Everything about Soccer Sucks

Postby DuchesneEast on Mon Jul 07, 2014 11:04 am

twballgame9 wrote:To further DE's point, the Olympics and WC get twice to three times as many viewers (when you ignore FIFA's idiotic numbers and take independent sources) and half as much money.


When FIFA can charge $4 million for 30 seconds worth of ad time, I will consider it as important.
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Re: Everything about Soccer Sucks

Postby flyingelvii on Mon Jul 07, 2014 11:24 am

DuchesneEast wrote:
eagle216 wrote:
DuchesneEast wrote:From what I watch, soccer can be decent when it is aggressive and teams are trying to score. Think of Portugal early against the US or the end of a game where a team is down 1-0 and needs to take chances. outside of that, it is awful. The knockout round and playing for a shootout is awful.

I have seen 2 Championships decided by shootouts. That is a joke. Imagine the Stanley Cup game 7 decided on a shoot out. Play sudden death and get it over with.


Extra time should be sudden death, like they used to do it (google "golden goal"). The worst will be if in the WC Final, both teams score in extra time, forcing a shootout.

That being said, there is simply no other solution other than to get to PKs at some point in a knockout format. Making it sudden death all the way like the NHL will lead to a game going on more or less forever at some point. While the wow factor of this may be cool to certain fans, once must realize that these players really owe their loyalty to their club teams, as this is where the real money is made. Having players play 6 hour games is not going to go over to well in this regard.

The popularity of the sport worldwide can not be overstated. The WC Final will dwarf the SB in ratings, for instance. Hard to argue against what they are doing.


Worldwide it may get better ratings, but not even close in the US, which is where most of the money is. Why not take a player off each team every 15m until it gets down to 7 on 7.

The same reason the NHL doesn't do it after a couple of OTs. Plus taking a guy off the field wouldn't make up for the fact that most of the players have been running around for over 2 hours. If you think soccer is boring normally, I can only imagine what you'd think when you see guys cramp up and get attended to every 10 seconds because the game hasn't ended.

Regarding ad time, comparing the SB to the WC is useless since a soccer match will only have like 4 ads during the whole thing, all during halftime.
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Re: Everything about Soccer Sucks

Postby HustlinOwl on Mon Jul 07, 2014 4:01 pm

flyingelvii wrote:
DuchesneEast wrote:
eagle216 wrote:
DuchesneEast wrote:From what I watch, soccer can be decent when it is aggressive and teams are trying to score. Think of Portugal early against the US or the end of a game where a team is down 1-0 and needs to take chances. outside of that, it is awful. The knockout round and playing for a shootout is awful.

I have seen 2 Championships decided by shootouts. That is a joke. Imagine the Stanley Cup game 7 decided on a shoot out. Play sudden death and get it over with.


Extra time should be sudden death, like they used to do it (google "golden goal"). The worst will be if in the WC Final, both teams score in extra time, forcing a shootout.

That being said, there is simply no other solution other than to get to PKs at some point in a knockout format. Making it sudden death all the way like the NHL will lead to a game going on more or less forever at some point. While the wow factor of this may be cool to certain fans, once must realize that these players really owe their loyalty to their club teams, as this is where the real money is made. Having players play 6 hour games is not going to go over to well in this regard.

The popularity of the sport worldwide can not be overstated. The WC Final will dwarf the SB in ratings, for instance. Hard to argue against what they are doing.


Worldwide it may get better ratings, but not even close in the US, which is where most of the money is. Why not take a player off each team every 15m until it gets down to 7 on 7.

The same reason the NHL doesn't do it after a couple of OTs. Plus taking a guy off the field wouldn't make up for the fact that most of the players have been running around for over 2 hours. If you think soccer is boring normally, I can only imagine what you'd think when you see guys cramp up and get attended to every 10 seconds because the game hasn't ended.

Regarding ad time, comparing the SB to the WC is useless since a soccer match will only have like 4 ads during the whole thing, all during halftime.


I was under the impression about half the roster never sees the field(or pitch or whatever). Three subs sounds kind of dumb with a 20+man roster.
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Re: Everything about Soccer Sucks

Postby flyingelvii on Mon Jul 07, 2014 4:25 pm

They do with injuries and suspensions. A quick look over the roster shows that I think only one non-keeper didn't get in any game. The rules also stipulate that you have to carry three keepers so it's really a 17 man roster for 10 outfield spots.
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Re: Everything about Soccer Sucks

Postby twballgame9 on Mon Jul 07, 2014 4:33 pm

flyingelvii wrote:Regarding ad time, comparing the SB to the WC is useless since a soccer match will only have like 4 ads during the whole thing, all during halftime.


Sort of. There are ads all over the pre- and post- game, and in fact during the entire game. McDonald's for one, had Golden Arches pop up on the score box routinely. The lack of comparable ad revenue has a lot to do with the fact that the US audience still isn't fully on board yet, and that is where a large bulk of the advertising target audience lies.

Oddly, I suspect ad revenue will go up in 4 years because they will over estimate this recent surge in American interest.
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Re: Everything about Soccer Sucks

Postby flyingelvii on Mon Jul 07, 2014 5:08 pm

twballgame9 wrote:
flyingelvii wrote:Regarding ad time, comparing the SB to the WC is useless since a soccer match will only have like 4 ads during the whole thing, all during halftime.


Sort of. There are ads all over the pre- and post- game, and in fact during the entire game. McDonald's for one, had Golden Arches pop up on the score box routinely. The lack of comparable ad revenue has a lot to do with the fact that the US audience still isn't fully on board yet, and that is where a large bulk of the advertising target audience lies.

Oddly, I suspect ad revenue will go up in 4 years because they will over estimate this recent surge in American interest.

The games also aren't in primetime like the Super Bowl. While there will certainly be more Americans watching in four years, the games are in Russia so I'm curious to see what the time difference does. I bet they'll probably start later to at least accommodate the European viewers but I'm not sure if we're going to have to deal with 8 AM games in the States. When they hosted the Champions League Final a couple years back they started at like 10 or 11 PM local time so people could actually watch.
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Re: Everything about Soccer Sucks

Postby mod17b on Tue Jul 08, 2014 10:51 am

flyingelvii wrote:They do with injuries and suspensions. A quick look over the roster shows that I think only one non-keeper didn't get in any game. The rules also stipulate that you have to carry three keepers so it's really a 17 man roster for 10 outfield spots.


20 man roster for 10 outfield spots -- World Cup roster is 23 players

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Re: Everything about Soccer Sucks

Postby eagle216 on Tue Jul 08, 2014 11:54 am

HustlinOwl wrote:
flyingelvii wrote:
DuchesneEast wrote:
eagle216 wrote:
DuchesneEast wrote:From what I watch, soccer can be decent when it is aggressive and teams are trying to score. Think of Portugal early against the US or the end of a game where a team is down 1-0 and needs to take chances. outside of that, it is awful. The knockout round and playing for a shootout is awful.

I have seen 2 Championships decided by shootouts. That is a joke. Imagine the Stanley Cup game 7 decided on a shoot out. Play sudden death and get it over with.


Extra time should be sudden death, like they used to do it (google "golden goal"). The worst will be if in the WC Final, both teams score in extra time, forcing a shootout.

That being said, there is simply no other solution other than to get to PKs at some point in a knockout format. Making it sudden death all the way like the NHL will lead to a game going on more or less forever at some point. While the wow factor of this may be cool to certain fans, once must realize that these players really owe their loyalty to their club teams, as this is where the real money is made. Having players play 6 hour games is not going to go over to well in this regard.

The popularity of the sport worldwide can not be overstated. The WC Final will dwarf the SB in ratings, for instance. Hard to argue against what they are doing.


Worldwide it may get better ratings, but not even close in the US, which is where most of the money is. Why not take a player off each team every 15m until it gets down to 7 on 7.

The same reason the NHL doesn't do it after a couple of OTs. Plus taking a guy off the field wouldn't make up for the fact that most of the players have been running around for over 2 hours. If you think soccer is boring normally, I can only imagine what you'd think when you see guys cramp up and get attended to every 10 seconds because the game hasn't ended.

Regarding ad time, comparing the SB to the WC is useless since a soccer match will only have like 4 ads during the whole thing, all during halftime.


I was under the impression about half the roster never sees the field(or pitch or whatever). Three subs sounds kind of dumb with a 20+man roster.


Then you would have really hated soccer in the past. The 3 sub thing is a relatively recent phenomenon. It used to be that no subs were allowed. You put your 11 on the pitch, and that was that. If a guy dropped deal, you played with 10, which is how it is now if you have already used your subs.
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Re: Everything about Soccer Sucks

Postby twballgame9 on Tue Jul 08, 2014 12:03 pm

You guys do know that soccer is over, right?
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Re: Everything about Soccer Sucks

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Re: Everything about Soccer Sucks

Postby TobaccoRoadEagle on Tue Jul 08, 2014 12:51 pm

the dropping dead part sounds pretty cool, i guess
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Re: Everything about Soccer Sucks

Postby Bryn Mawr Eagle on Tue Jul 08, 2014 1:32 pm

HustlinOwl wrote:


The best is at the :35 mark, when both players flop. Unbelievable.
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Re: Everything about Soccer Sucks

Postby TobaccoRoadEagle on Tue Jul 08, 2014 2:29 pm

Bryn Mawr Eagle wrote:
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The best is at the :35 mark, when both players flop. Unbelievable.

gorDON prefers it when both players "flop"
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Re: Everything about Soccer Sucks

Postby DavidGordonsFoot on Tue Jul 08, 2014 3:04 pm

TobaccoRoadEagle wrote:
Bryn Mawr Eagle wrote:
HustlinOwl wrote:


The best is at the :35 mark, when both players flop. Unbelievable.

gorDON prefers it when both players "flop"

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Re: Everything about Soccer Sucks

Postby eagle216 on Tue Jul 08, 2014 3:31 pm

Do they riot after the game, or just start now?
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Re: Everything about Soccer Sucks

Postby twballgame9 on Tue Jul 08, 2014 3:36 pm

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