Free Agent Thread

Home of Football Tailgating, Intramural Football and the occasional baseball game
Forum rules
"The opinions expressed on this board are property of the poster and do not reflect the opinion of EagleOutsider, Boston College or Boston College Athletics"

Re: Free Agent Thread

Postby flyingelvii on Tue Jan 31, 2012 8:50 am

Jackson would pretty much give then 200 innings of league average pitching. Hard to really ask for more than that when you're offering an esetablished guy 1 year at $5M.
flyingelvii
Higgins Hall
 
Posts: 5871
Joined: Mon Sep 07, 2009 3:28 pm
Karma: -50

Re: Free Agent Thread

Postby EagleNYC on Tue Jan 31, 2012 5:54 pm

claver2010 {l Wrote}:
EagleNYC {l Wrote}:
flyingelvii {l Wrote}:
EagleNYC {l Wrote}:Oswalt flirting w/Rangers after rumors that he was a done deal in St. Louis. If he goes elsewhere, do the Sox hold fast to their current rotation?

That's what they're rumored to do unless Edwin Jackson signs with them. They lowballed those two and were hoping that someone bit. Looks like Oswalt won't bite on the 1 year, $5M deal but who knows with Jackson.


Jackson would be a terrible error. Burnett level.


Well ones what $5/10 MM? The other was $82


Obviously it's not a money thing, but a "really, really not worth it" thing. He has a well earned reputation as a coach killer and this is a team that is attempting to re-shape the clubhouse. He has seductive talent but never puts it together, even in pitcher friendly ball parks in pitcher friendly divisons. Six teams since 2008. Yikes.
EagleNYC
Cushing Hall
 
Posts: 2313
Joined: Sun Sep 06, 2009 6:11 am
Karma: 167

Re: Free Agent Thread

Postby claver2010 on Tue Feb 28, 2012 10:08 am

Let me preface by saying I don't know all the inner workings of the respective contracts but the Nats & Fish are quickly turning to the Minaya stage of overpaying for assets at their highest value

Nats:
Ryan Zimmerman: Giving a guy who is going to finish the season 28 years old between $14-18 MM per year through 2019 when he's going end 35. This is a guy when has missed some decent time 3 out of the last 4 years (2008: 56, 2010: 19, 2011: 61). He's a good player (I personally like watching him) & he might be the "face of the franchise premium" but in reality: He's extremely iffy defensively, he's hit .300 once, over 25 HRs once, & over 100 RBIs twice.

Jayson Werth: Signed through 2017 when he'll be 38 for $20+ MM starting in 2014 for a guy who has never driven in 100 or batted .300

Marlins:
Jose Reyes: When healthy he's one of the best SS in the game. But this is a guy who has missed over 190 games the past 3 years. He's signed through when he'll be 34 at over $20 MM per year starting in 2015
Mark Buehrle: A SP who is going to be 33 and has logged a ton of innings signed for nearly $20 MM per year starting in 2014 through when he's going to be 36
Carlos Zambrano: Who is one bad inning away from killing someone signed for $18 MM
Aaron Rowland: A guy who has decidedly sucked the past couple of years signed for $12 MM

Added to the fact that they have a good group of young players that are going to need to be paid soon. Hanley signed at $16 MM per year through 2014, Stanton, Johnson at $14 MM through 2014. And they are a team that can't draw flies even when competitive, though moving into a new stadium, should be interesting.
Bush, George H W
Cosby, Bill
Disick, Scott
Flair, Ric
Griffin, Kathy
Khamenei, Ali
McCain, John
Pele
Soros, George
User avatar
claver2010
BC Guy
 
Posts: 20301
Joined: Sat Sep 05, 2009 5:55 pm
Karma: 3380

Re: Free Agent Thread

Postby bignick33 on Tue Feb 28, 2012 10:12 am

Werth was given one of the worst contracts in the history of baseball.
I drink whiskey instead of water.
User avatar
bignick33
Fulton Hall
 
Posts: 12825
Joined: Sun Sep 06, 2009 11:31 pm
Karma: 909

Re: Free Agent Thread

Postby DavidGordonsFoot on Tue Feb 28, 2012 10:25 am

claver2010 {l Wrote}:Let me preface by saying I don't know all the inner workings of the respective contracts but the Nats & Fish are quickly turning to the Minaya stage of overpaying for assets at their highest value

Nats:
Ryan Zimmerman: Giving a guy who is going to finish the season 28 years old between $14-18 MM per year through 2019 when he's going end 35. This is a guy when has missed some decent time 3 out of the last 4 years (2008: 56, 2010: 19, 2011: 61). He's a good player (I personally like watching him) & he might be the "face of the franchise premium" but in reality: He's extremely iffy defensively, he's hit .300 once, over 25 HRs once, & over 100 RBIs twice.


this.

At the very least, they jumped the gun when they didn't have to. He was under control through 2013. How much did they really save getting the extension done now? Or do they still feel like they need to demonstrate a commitment to winning to the fans? Does anyone still question them after the Werth contract, the signing bonuses for Strasburg and Harper, and the Gio Gonzalez trade?
hello
User avatar
DavidGordonsFoot
Gasson Hall
 
Posts: 15042
Joined: Sat Sep 05, 2009 11:56 pm
Location: Not tobaccoroad
Karma: 2942

Re: Free Agent Thread

Postby flyingelvii on Tue Feb 28, 2012 11:32 am

Everything I've read about Zimmerman, as in all the results from the Google of "Ryan Zimmerman defense", has him as a plus to plus plus defender and most of the advanced metrics agree with that.
flyingelvii
Higgins Hall
 
Posts: 5871
Joined: Mon Sep 07, 2009 3:28 pm
Karma: -50

Re: Free Agent Thread

Postby claver2010 on Wed Feb 29, 2012 8:25 am

flyingelvii {l Wrote}:Everything I've read about Zimmerman, as in all the results from the Google of "Ryan Zimmerman defense", has him as a plus to plus plus defender and most of the advanced metrics agree with that.


I'm not all up on the defensive metrics but I remember he couldn't throw the ball to first last year. That was funny, it was so deep in his head he had no clue what to do.
Bush, George H W
Cosby, Bill
Disick, Scott
Flair, Ric
Griffin, Kathy
Khamenei, Ali
McCain, John
Pele
Soros, George
User avatar
claver2010
BC Guy
 
Posts: 20301
Joined: Sat Sep 05, 2009 5:55 pm
Karma: 3380

Re: Free Agent Thread

Postby eagle9903 on Fri Mar 16, 2012 11:04 am

the Dontrelle Willis era has ended in Philadelphia.
domingoortiz
eepstein0
corporal funishment
innocentbystander
davidgordonswang
maybe hansen
User avatar
eagle9903
Fulton Hall
 
Posts: 14311
Joined: Mon Sep 07, 2009 1:16 pm
Karma: 1728

Re: Free Agent Thread

Postby EagleNYC on Fri Mar 16, 2012 12:56 pm

eagle9903 {l Wrote}:the Dontrelle Willis era has ended in Philadelphia.


The 3rd Andrew Eugene Pettitte era will start in June-ish. Not a bad 5th starter.
EagleNYC
Cushing Hall
 
Posts: 2313
Joined: Sun Sep 06, 2009 6:11 am
Karma: 167

Previous

Return to Shea Field

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 15 guests

Untitled document
cron