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Re: cards make the playoffs!

PostPosted: Fri Oct 28, 2011 8:59 am
by hansen
TobaccoRoadEagle {l Wrote}:
apbc12 {l Wrote}:Anybody else rooting for the Rangers due to dislike of Tony LaRussa?


mine's more dislike of hansen but i'll join your cause


does this mean i am not invited to the wedding? :P

Re: cards make the playoffs!

PostPosted: Fri Oct 28, 2011 9:22 am
by bignick33
hansen {l Wrote}:
TobaccoRoadEagle {l Wrote}:
apbc12 {l Wrote}:Anybody else rooting for the Rangers due to dislike of Tony LaRussa?


mine's more dislike of hansen but i'll join your cause


does this mean i am not invited to the wedding? :P


At least TRE's brothers probably like you, because they hate him and therefore like anything he hates.

Re: cards make the playoffs!

PostPosted: Fri Oct 28, 2011 7:30 pm
by claver2010
The after innings music remind me of the music from this video


Re: cards make the playoffs!

PostPosted: Fri Oct 28, 2011 9:44 pm
by twballgame9
claver2010 {l Wrote}:The after innings music remind me of the music from this video



You may never see a BC team that talented.

Ryan, Callender, Purvis, Gunnell and BRob, McCluskey, Cherilus, Castonzo, Claiborne, Tennant, Rollins, Silva, Bowman, Akins, Herzy, Mac, Brace, Giles, Albright, Francois...

Team was fucking loaded.

Re: cards make the playoffs!

PostPosted: Fri Oct 28, 2011 9:58 pm
by bignick33
I'm seprised no has yet compared the Rangers to the early 90s Bills.

Re: cards make the playoffs!

PostPosted: Fri Oct 28, 2011 10:00 pm
by twballgame9
bignick33 {l Wrote}:I'm seprised no has yet compared the Rangers to the early 90s Bills.


me is also.

Re: cards make the playoffs!

PostPosted: Fri Oct 28, 2011 10:01 pm
by twballgame9
FYI, these two Cardinal fucking douchebags announcing the game are utterly intolerable. Buck just blows and McCarver is an idiot of epic proportions.

Re: cards make the playoffs!

PostPosted: Fri Oct 28, 2011 10:04 pm
by bignick33
twballgame9 {l Wrote}:
bignick33 {l Wrote}:I'm seprised no has yet compared the Rangers to the early 90s Bills.


me is also.


If I were Spaz, I would blame the auto-correct.

Re: cards make the playoffs!

PostPosted: Fri Oct 28, 2011 10:25 pm
by bignick33
Cards are a bunch of winners.

Re: cards make the playoffs!

PostPosted: Fri Oct 28, 2011 10:40 pm
by twballgame9
bignick33 {l Wrote}:Cards are a bunch of winners.


For the idiot LaRussa to be the best manager in the World Series is amazing.

Re: cards make the playoffs!

PostPosted: Fri Oct 28, 2011 10:45 pm
by hansen
twballgame9 {l Wrote}:FYI, these two Cardinal fucking douchebags announcing the game are utterly intolerable. Buck just blows and McCarver is an idiot of epic proportions.


McCarver is senile. I grew up listening to Buck so I guess I am immune to him by now.

Re: cards make the playoffs!

PostPosted: Fri Oct 28, 2011 10:47 pm
by hansen
bignick33 {l Wrote}:Cards are a bunch of winners.


This team embodies the "play like a cardinal" mantra like none I have seen. They may not be the most talented team ever but they refuse to quit, play a hard nine every night, and somehow find a way to win.

Re: cards make the playoffs!

PostPosted: Fri Oct 28, 2011 10:50 pm
by twballgame9
hansen {l Wrote}:
bignick33 {l Wrote}:Cards are a bunch of winners.


This team embodies the "play like a cardinal" mantra like none I have seen. They may not be the most talented team ever but they refuse to quit, play a hard nine every night, and somehow find a way to win.


I give them all the credit in the world. They won in spite of the fact that their manager had money on the Rangers.

Re: cards make the playoffs!

PostPosted: Fri Oct 28, 2011 10:50 pm
by twballgame9
hansen {l Wrote}:
bignick33 {l Wrote}:Cards are a bunch of winners.


This team embodies the "play like a cardinal" mantra like none I have seen. They may not be the most talented team ever but they refuse to quit, play a hard nine every night, and somehow find a way to win.


I give them all the credit in the world. They won in spite of the fact that their manager had money on the Rangers.

Re: cards make the playoffs!

PostPosted: Fri Oct 28, 2011 10:51 pm
by hansen
twballgame9 {l Wrote}:
bignick33 {l Wrote}:Cards are a bunch of winners.


For the idiot LaRussa to be the best manager in the World Series is amazing.


Given the lack of starting pitching on this team, he managed this team as well as any manager could. He found a way to make a rotation out of carpenter and a couple of other guys. He made all the right moves. :kudos

Re: cards make the playoffs!

PostPosted: Fri Oct 28, 2011 11:00 pm
by twballgame9
hansen {l Wrote}:
twballgame9 {l Wrote}:
bignick33 {l Wrote}:Cards are a bunch of winners.


For the idiot LaRussa to be the best manager in the World Series is amazing.


Given the lack of starting pitching on this team, he managed this team as well as any manager could. He found a way to make a rotation out of carpenter and a couple of other guys. He made all the right moves. :kudos


He got lucky with rain and managed the bullpen like a fucking retard. The series should have been over in 5 so he didn't have to worry about praying for rain so that his only starter could go in Game 7.

That is all.

Re: cards make the playoffs!

PostPosted: Fri Oct 28, 2011 11:09 pm
by hansen
twballgame9 {l Wrote}:
hansen {l Wrote}:
twballgame9 {l Wrote}:
bignick33 {l Wrote}:Cards are a bunch of winners.


For the idiot LaRussa to be the best manager in the World Series is amazing.


Given the lack of starting pitching on this team, he managed this team as well as any manager could. He found a way to make a rotation out of carpenter and a couple of other guys. He made all the right moves. :kudos


He got lucky with rain and managed the bullpen like a fucking retard. The series should have been over in 5 so he didn't have to worry about praying for rain so that his only starter could go in Game 7.

That is all.


The bullpen disaster in game 5 was a mess but otherwise imo he made all the right moves. I actually think the fact that carpenter is the only starter (with slight apologies to Garcia and others) and somehow was able to mix and match relievers to get though a 7 game series. E.g. In the NLCS, the relievers hrew as many innings as the starters. That's unheard of if not amazing.

Re: cards make the playoffs!

PostPosted: Fri Oct 28, 2011 11:13 pm
by twballgame9
hansen {l Wrote}:
twballgame9 {l Wrote}:
hansen {l Wrote}:
twballgame9 {l Wrote}:
bignick33 {l Wrote}:Cards are a bunch of winners.


For the idiot LaRussa to be the best manager in the World Series is amazing.


Given the lack of starting pitching on this team, he managed this team as well as any manager could. He found a way to make a rotation out of carpenter and a couple of other guys. He made all the right moves. :kudos


He got lucky with rain and managed the bullpen like a fucking retard. The series should have been over in 5 so he didn't have to worry about praying for rain so that his only starter could go in Game 7.

That is all.


The bullpen disaster in game 5 was a mess but otherwise imo he made all the right moves. I actually think the fact that carpenter is the only starter (with slight apologies to Garcia and others) and somehow was able to mix and match relievers to get though a 7 game series. E.g. In the NLCS, the relievers hrew as many innings as the starters. That's unheard of if not amazing.


I have no horse in this race at all. I watched most of the series. LaRussa is a complete idiot.

Re: cards make the playoffs!

PostPosted: Mon Oct 31, 2011 9:33 am
by eagle9903
and LaRussa will manage no more. I will not lose sleep over this.

Re: cards make the playoffs!

PostPosted: Mon Oct 31, 2011 10:44 am
by DavidGordonsFoot
eagle9903 {l Wrote}:and LaRussa will manage no more. I will not lose sleep over this.


BringTonyLaRussaToBC.blogspot.com

Re: cards make the playoffs!

PostPosted: Mon Oct 31, 2011 1:47 pm
by hansen
DavidGordonsFoot {l Wrote}:
eagle9903 {l Wrote}:and LaRussa will manage no more. I will not lose sleep over this.


BringTonyLaRussaToBC.blogspot.com


I am 100% convinced that TLR as head coach would have won at least 6 games with this team (if not more)...

Re: cards make the playoffs!

PostPosted: Mon Oct 31, 2011 1:48 pm
by hansen
eagle9903 {l Wrote}:and LaRussa will manage no more. I will not lose sleep over this.


TLR is consistently disparaged but his track record speaks for itself:

Most postseason wins by a National League team during that span: 50.
Most postseason series won by a NL team: 12.
Most NL pennants won: three.
Two World Series championships, tied with Florida for the most in the league since 1996.
Some 1,408 regular-season wins, second in the NL to Atlanta's 1,478.
3rd most all-time wins.

Re: cards make the playoffs!

PostPosted: Mon Oct 31, 2011 2:43 pm
by eagle9903
hansen {l Wrote}:
eagle9903 {l Wrote}:and LaRussa will manage no more. I will not lose sleep over this.


TLR is consistently disparaged but his track record speaks for itself:

Most postseason wins by a National League team during that span: 50.
Most postseason series won by a NL team: 12.
Most NL pennants won: three.
Two World Series championships, tied with Florida for the most in the league since 1996.
Some 1,408 regular-season wins, second in the NL to Atlanta's 1,478.
3rd most all-time wins.


I don't like him because he's annoying, whiny and makes the game more boring and slow. I know he's a great manager (Teddy doesn't think so, I think).

Re: cards make the playoffs!

PostPosted: Mon Oct 31, 2011 6:44 pm
by twballgame9
eagle9903 {l Wrote}:
hansen {l Wrote}:
eagle9903 {l Wrote}:and LaRussa will manage no more. I will not lose sleep over this.


TLR is consistently disparaged but his track record speaks for itself:

Most postseason wins by a National League team during that span: 50.
Most postseason series won by a NL team: 12.
Most NL pennants won: three.
Two World Series championships, tied with Florida for the most in the league since 1996.
Some 1,408 regular-season wins, second in the NL to Atlanta's 1,478.
3rd most all-time wins.


I don't like him because he's annoying, whiny and makes the game more boring and slow. I know he's a great manager (Teddy doesn't think so, I think).


He does all of those things and he is an overrated manager. He's not a bad manager, but he certainly isn't great.

Let's put it this way, he's better than Francona.

Re: cards make the playoffs!

PostPosted: Mon Oct 31, 2011 10:01 pm
by hansen
twballgame9 {l Wrote}:
eagle9903 {l Wrote}:
hansen {l Wrote}:
eagle9903 {l Wrote}:and LaRussa will manage no more. I will not lose sleep over this.


TLR is consistently disparaged but his track record speaks for itself:

Most postseason wins by a National League team during that span: 50.
Most postseason series won by a NL team: 12.
Most NL pennants won: three.
Two World Series championships, tied with Florida for the most in the league since 1996.
Some 1,408 regular-season wins, second in the NL to Atlanta's 1,478.
3rd most all-time wins.


I don't like him because he's annoying, whiny and makes the game more boring and slow. I know he's a great manager (Teddy doesn't think so, I think).


He does all of those things and he is an overrated manager. He's not a bad manager, but he certainly isn't great.

Let's put it this way, he's better than Francona.


TLR has had a huge impact on how the game is played (for better or worse). he redefined the closer position, led the current trend toward building and using a strong bullpen, etc. 9903 is right though; he does whine a lot (typically to his advantage) and the games are slower. a lot of people do not like him... however, after watching the results he has produced over the past 16 years, i must admit i am not in that group.

as for francona, the guy led the team to 2 world series title... and broke the supposed curse. i give the guy a lot of credit for that. would i want him STL managing? i can't really say as i dont know the redsox close enough to make an informed opinion. i do know though that STL organization is trending toward an statistics based approach with old school scouting mixed in. this heavy reliance on statistics alienates a lot of managers... the old school baseball types. that is why this hire will be very interesting.

Re: cards make the playoffs!

PostPosted: Mon Oct 31, 2011 10:56 pm
by twballgame9
hansen {l Wrote}:
twballgame9 {l Wrote}:
eagle9903 {l Wrote}:
hansen {l Wrote}:
eagle9903 {l Wrote}:and LaRussa will manage no more. I will not lose sleep over this.


TLR is consistently disparaged but his track record speaks for itself:

Most postseason wins by a National League team during that span: 50.
Most postseason series won by a NL team: 12.
Most NL pennants won: three.
Two World Series championships, tied with Florida for the most in the league since 1996.
Some 1,408 regular-season wins, second in the NL to Atlanta's 1,478.
3rd most all-time wins.


I don't like him because he's annoying, whiny and makes the game more boring and slow. I know he's a great manager (Teddy doesn't think so, I think).


He does all of those things and he is an overrated manager. He's not a bad manager, but he certainly isn't great.

Let's put it this way, he's better than Francona.


TLR has had a huge impact on how the game is played (for better or worse). he redefined the closer position, led the current trend toward building and using a strong bullpen, etc. 9903 is right though; he does whine a lot (typically to his advantage) and the games are slower. a lot of people do not like him... however, after watching the results he has produced over the past 16 years, i must admit i am not in that group.

as for francona, the guy led the team to 2 world series title... and broke the supposed curse. i give the guy a lot of credit for that. would i want him STL managing? i can't really say as i dont know the redsox close enough to make an informed opinion. i do know though that STL organization is trending toward an statistics based approach with old school scouting mixed in. this heavy reliance on statistics alienates a lot of managers... the old school baseball types. that is why this hire will be very interesting.


Crediting LaRussa with redefining the closer position means you are either too young to know baseball or are blinded by LaRussa's self proclaimed genius. LaRussa was with the White Sox losing a ton and not looking like much of a genius when the closer position was redefined. From 1982 to 1987, Jeff Reardon had season save totals of 26, 21, 23, 41, 35, 31. By 1987, Reardon had 177 saves over his previous 7 seasons. He went on from 1988 to 1992 to post save totals of 42, 31, 21, 40, 30. Bruce Suter retired the year that Eckersly supposedly became the first close with 300 saves. Fingers had 341 saves. Gossage had 302.

LaRussa should be credited with deciding that closers can only go 1 inning; for that matter deciding that no relief pitcher should go more than a couple of batters. I don't see that as a good development, and one that was shattered for the most part during the early part of the greatest closer of all time's career when he frequently entered in the 8th inning.

And again, there was no curse, and the drought was broken with John Henry's money, not the genius of Theo Epstein or Terry Francona.